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Oxbridge Rejects 2025

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CrouchingTigerMum · 17/01/2025 20:16

Any other parents feeling really down about their DC's Oxford rejection?

Just looking for empathy or thoughts on how to bounce back and build up DC's motivation for A-levels now... (especially when my DC's second-choice university doesn't demand high grades – it's not a highly competitive subject).

If they were doing a course with even a tangential vocational element, we'd be happy with them studying elsewhere but for their niche subject (within arts, humanities & languages) the "next best" university feels leagues below Oxbridge – it's not as though there is an equivalent institution on the level of Imperial (or, say, Warwick) for STEM.

NC as it's possibly outing to be handling the rejection so poorly.

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Ceramiq · 17/01/2025 20:21

Hugs.

There are indeed a few university courses (not just at Oxford and Cambridge) which are such clear winners in the rankings/opportunities/teaching quality that nothing is really second best, just also ran. Does your DC not entertain the idea of a gap year and reapplying?

CrouchingTigerMum · 17/01/2025 20:51

Thanks! @Ceramiq
Reapplying is a possibility but there's a danger of entrenching the rejection if it happens twice. They couldn't really have done better in subject tests (scored well above the average for those who were offered places), predicted grades or other relevant achievements so the interview was the problem...

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north51 · 17/01/2025 20:55

So sorry and sending hugs.

It’s most definitely not the end of the road. If she goes to the lower ranked university, she stands a very good chance of getting a 1st and with that in hand, a 1yr masters at Oxbridge is definitely possible - and may well come with full funding if it’s a niche subject. I know a few students who have gone this route and achieved their Oxbridge experience in the end.

Also, this other university is probably staffed by very committed, highly ranked academics in this field who have especially gone there as it’s one of the few places they could work in their chosen field. Is there an offer holders day coming up, or cld you contact the dept and ask for a private visit?

Her A level grades will demonstrate her academic excellence.

DelilahA · 17/01/2025 21:01

You won’t feel sad once you’re standing there glowing with pride on A level results day. That’s the way you have to look at it. The disappointment now will fade when new and exciting things come along, or when something awful happens that puts everything else in perspective. I hope for your sake it’s the former. Give it time.

nutsandraisinsrock · 17/01/2025 21:29

Are you able to say what the second choice uni is? Someone may be able to reassure you it's ok?
Dd was rejected this week and also a bit of a wobble - also humanities and looking at Durham (has an offer) but doesn't feel it's nearly as good. She's been looking at world rankings and it's way down (about 90th) so isn't hugely keen. I'm not sure she's happy that anything else has the cache of Oxbridge.
It's tough but I'm hopeful whenever she goes will turn out fine. Good luck.

lanthanum · 17/01/2025 23:07

CrouchingTigerMum · 17/01/2025 20:51

Thanks! @Ceramiq
Reapplying is a possibility but there's a danger of entrenching the rejection if it happens twice. They couldn't really have done better in subject tests (scored well above the average for those who were offered places), predicted grades or other relevant achievements so the interview was the problem...

Oxbridge colleges are sometimes quite forthcoming with feedback, and may be willing to indicate whether it was a case of "you were pipped to the post by even better candidates", and whether it might be worth another shot. For most subjects, another university will probably work out just as well, but you may be right for something where there is limited choice.

justthatreallyagain · 18/01/2025 00:26

My friends son was rejected at interview took a gap year and successfully reapplied

JanFebAndOnwards · 18/01/2025 10:35

What a fab video above! Def worth getting those who haven’t received offers this week to watch.

CrouchingTigerMum · 18/01/2025 15:35

@nutsandraisinsrock Sorry your DD didn't get in either! Of course the alternatives (UCL, Durham, Bristol) would be more than ok but they have nowhere near the cachet, given the much lower bar for entry.

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CrouchingTigerMum · 18/01/2025 15:39

@JanFebAndOnwards @tortoise18 thanks for sharing the video. The point about it not being a lottery was well made but hearing that they spend 20 hours assessing each candidate is the opposite of consoling! (Is that really accurate? Seems very inefficient...)

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j49 · 18/01/2025 15:46

My DS and his friend both applied last year. Both were rejected. DS went to Bath instead and it's great. DS's friend reapplied and has just been rejected for a second time. All A stars obviously, great supercurriculars.

I would try to see it as: well, they don't want me - so I don't want them. I'm a great candidate and I will have a great time somewhere else and not let the romanticisation of Oxford affect my life.

AliceInWonderland24 · 18/01/2025 15:56

CrouchingTigerMum · 18/01/2025 15:35

@nutsandraisinsrock Sorry your DD didn't get in either! Of course the alternatives (UCL, Durham, Bristol) would be more than ok but they have nowhere near the cachet, given the much lower bar for entry.

Sorry, but if you are using UCL, Durham and Bristol as your real insurance options rather than metaphorically, you are being ridiculous if you are really concerned about their “cachet” vs Oxford. I thought you’d be talking about Nottingham Trent and such. I am confident you’ll see this in a few days/weeks once the sting of rejection wears off. Requirement of lower grades is irrelevant - a first class degree in whatever niche subject from those universities will have plenty of “cachet”. Though cachet with whom? If she wants to pursue academia, she’d need a master’s/PhD so she’ll have plenty of opportunity to excel at undergraduate to pursue postgraduate studies at Oxford/Harvad whatever has more “cachet”. Employers don’t care - all they care about is how well you do on application tests. They might care about uni and not degree. If they care about a degree - a “niche” degree from Oxford is as unlikely to be an asset as it’s from UCL/Durham. If we are talking about something like Theology/Arabic and Middle Eastern studies/Celtic etc. Rejection stings - I fully empathise. Especially if you studied so hard, got top grades and can’t rationalise the rejection. I totally get it. But your concerns are misplaced. And quite frankly, if your DC needs an Oxford offer to feel motivated to study for A levels, Oxford is unlikely to be the right place for them anyway at this stage of their academic journey.

Derogations · 18/01/2025 16:03

Sorry OP, I know you are looking for sympathy but how has it got so bad?

Only 16% of applicants get into Oxford - how have either you or your DC found yourselves so down in the dumps about what is essentially a punt?

I think that’s both a failure of parenting and the school not to set your expectations at a realistic level - it is more or less a lottery. And the cachet thing is ridiculous.

CrouchingTigerMum · 18/01/2025 16:14

@Derogations Fair point but the subject has a high acceptance rate, their school has a very high acceptance rate, lots of their friends got in and they had some relevant experience/achievements in the subject that gave us hope. Of course we'll get over it but it would be inconsistent with the effort that went into the application (tests, PS, etc) to shrug it off immediately.

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topcat2014 · 18/01/2025 16:22

Dd in same boat, but she bounced back in a day or so. Yet to hear from Warwick

Umbilicat · 18/01/2025 17:20

OP, we were here a couple of years ago and I totally understand how you feel this week and will do for a few weeks to come.

However, if your DD‘s second choices are indeed UCL, Bristol and Durham then I’m with others that to say they’re not nearly good enough is just daft… They are fantastic universities and your DD will have a great time at any of them. Just because the grade requirements are low to get in doesn’t mean it won’t be taught to a high standard and assuming that is what your DD actually wants to do, rather than they saw it as an easy way into Oxford and therefore developed an interest in it, then they will be taught to a very high-level and can if they really are passionate about the subject pursue it to Masters or PhD.

as of this have said, when you child gets their A-level results, you will have a fantastic day of pride and when you see them thrive at another university doubly so.

i’m a Cambridge graduate and I personally think the Oxford thing is massively overhyped, I can’t be the only one who seen a ton of people in my field and in other fields who didn’t go to Oxbridge do brilliantly in life without studying in a clutch of musty old buildings. Encourage your dd to look forward to her future and stop seeing the options as second best.

chickenpieandchips · 18/01/2025 17:34

I'm reading it as the back ups are not the UCL or Warwick's of this world (but also thinking they might be quite good in others people books and OP might be the overthinking this). If you say what they are then it might turn out they are world leading.
As someone said up thread it's basically a lottery. And schools and parents should be ready for this. Just because a school has great success in the past doesn't mean it will this year.
This year had a few friends who were 'guaranteed' applicants fail.
There is always the masters and phd route. Most people's live where they end up at uni.

WombatChocolate · 18/01/2025 17:36

Quite possibly, it’s too soon and too raw to get perspective on it yet OP. But give it a few days and weeks and hurt pride and disappointment subsides and alternative pathways start to look possible and positive.

Presumably, as the parent, you’re expressing your disappointment here on MN, but being positive and upbeat for DC? It’s really important that they can see you know there will be a way forward. Even if you are hugely disappointed it’s vital not to build the disappointment up.

Plan B doesn’t have to be fixed right now. There are still weeks when more offers might come in and the focus needs to be on the A Levels. Thoughts of a gap year and re-applying is possible, but best not to commit to anything mentally or practically until A Level results are in. DC can look at their admission test scores in relation to the admission data posted to see if they scored well in the cohort, and if they want to get interview feedback they can…so again they can see if they were a near miss or not really. The second choice options may well be better than re-applying.

The fact your DC didn’t get an offer doesn’t diminish them. The reality is that there are far too many excellent candidates to all get places. Most applicants are excellent and the vast majority don’t get offers. The 3 unis you mention have plenty of Oxbridge rejects at them who go onto do well at uni and have great careers….some better than many Oxbridge candidates. You need to start to let the disappointment go and help your DC to do the same over the next days and weeks. Blips along the way are all part of the journey…and it’s not just a platitude.

chickenpieandchips · 18/01/2025 17:48

Sorry, so the back ups are UCL and Bristol and Durham. 🤦🏼‍♀️. My mistake. So all great and aspirational to many others. Oxford isn't everything (I went). I could bore you about the people that went and didn't like it for various reasons (mainly they only went because it was 'Oxford' and didn't research it properly).
Put on a smile, say you love them and you are proud of them for trying and start discussing the plan B with enthusiasm.
My ds got rejected before interview. One sentence - 'I got rejected' - next 'but Bath looks fab and is now my top choice'.

Derogations · 18/01/2025 18:02

Oxbridge just isn’t a plan A - even for the very cleverest. You must have seen other brilliant students get rejected (and some less good ones be accepted).

The school has over-pumped you (and I am going to assume you’ve paid for the privilege). You are being unreasonably entitled.

tortoise18 · 18/01/2025 18:06

Derogations · 18/01/2025 18:02

Oxbridge just isn’t a plan A - even for the very cleverest. You must have seen other brilliant students get rejected (and some less good ones be accepted).

The school has over-pumped you (and I am going to assume you’ve paid for the privilege). You are being unreasonably entitled.

OP had said it was state grammar.

BRL2 · 18/01/2025 18:11

This time last year DC was rejected. In all honesty we weren’t really disappointed. Just had a phone call from him and he spent the whole time telling me how happy he is at university. He’s my youngest and I’ve learned that happiness is so important.

superclouds · 18/01/2025 18:43

There is life beyond Oxbridge.

My DS got interviewed a few years ago and got rejected. He went to a different uni, had a fabulous time and did very well. He then went on to do his phd at Oxbridge which he's very much enjoyed.

Have you looked on the WIWIKAU page on fb? Lots of good advice on there. Where's his second choice?

YouOKHun · 18/01/2025 19:34

My DS was rejected* last January and I understand your disappointment @CrouchingTigerMum because it is such an all consuming process which ends rather abruptly one morning in January. It's quite hard to readjust to something else even when you've been well aware it is a very competitive process which may not go the way you want it to go (whatever the subject).

Like your DC and so many others my DS had 4A* (his were in hand), loads of super curricula etc etc and we thought he had a good chance of something very unlikely. He knew one interview had gone badly and had already pretty much mentally moved on by January. I was more disappointed than he was but I hid it well!

At the time a good friend of mine who has conducted many Oxford interviews said to me that every year they know they are turning down many fantastic candidates who are very capable and would thrive. Ultimately (without wanting to sound like I'm taking away from successful candidates) it is something of a numbers game.

My DS then had to sit tight for many weeks waiting for offers from other universities and jumped at Bristol where he is now doing a French and Philosophy degree. He's very happy there and has no regrets about trying for Oxford and no regrets about not getting in. Start focussing on the other possibilities. If they love their subject they will do well wherever they go.

*hate the word reject!

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