Law at Uni of York

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https://www.york.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/courses/llb-law/
"We are the only law school in the UK to use a problem-based learning approach as the basis for our undergraduate programmes. We believe this modern, practical method will help you to develop the skills and techniques you will need to stand out as a professional."

Anyone/DC gone through this and have any insight, please?

Have read/watched some blogs/vlogs and it seems an interesting way of doing it.

@recruitretain magic circle target loads of universities! Do you think they don’t target Oxbridge? The north is a different market. It’s not London and York is not a big hitter in London and it’s not LNAT. These firms take the best they can get and they don’t especially target York! Other than to get a field of applicants.

you are incorrect

@recruitretainIm absolutely not! RG are targeted and York, at 16th in league tables isn’t top of that tree. The law firms look at grads from any university and don’t single out York grads. Oxbridge is represented in far higher numbers and 50% of intake doesn’t even have a law degree!

Respectfully, you are wrong

find It hilarious someone trying to tell me what I know is wrong when I’m actually doing it day in day out 😂😂😂

but I’ll be respectful about it 🙏

also my Niece has gone to York on my say so she passed up on a Bristol offer for York, that’s how highly I rate this school of Law.

@TizerorFizz
I was going to write a long post but others have done some of it for me.
I think what you've done is insert the word ONLY into what Recruit has said.
Obv, the top firms are going to want the top people (regardless of RG, LNAT, etc), and they are going to look at as many of the top places as poss.

If you're insistent that you are correct, then what evidence are you citing, please?

I'm grateful for @recruitretain for providing some DIRECT insight into York - this is exactly what I was after.

@recruitretain You have no idea what other universities are doing. So you have blinkered advice. Hardly the best advice to swerve LNAT Bristol and go 8 places lower.

London recruitment data

American firms

we hold recruitment events at every university on that table, so I know what every uni is doing 🙄

I can tell you now many are seeking the best where ever the best are going to be productive and productive quickly, my two biggest clients have given me three Uni’s to hit and hit hard to get the best of the best York is on that list

sadly certain demographics are making the the table your producing a little interesting, EDI agendas or more specifically my clients who are deliberate in their efforts to move away from that nonsense are producing tables that sadly in the current climate are never getting published.

I dont need stats

I need the best of the best

The screenshots are from the 2016 report https://www.chambersstudent.co.uk/where-to-start/newsletter/law-firms-preferred-universities
And there is the 2019 one https://www.chambersstudent.co.uk/where-to-start/newsletter/law-firms-preferred-universities-2019

It's good to have an indication, but...
Mentioned before that there are some issues - and the report says "This survey doesn’t account for the numbers graduating from each institution. For example, Manchester and Nottingham’s undergrad enrolments are over three times the size of St Andrews’. This will skew the results in favour of the larger institutions. Adjusting for this would have to consider the size of law courses, proportion of law and non-law, and we’d just get bogged down. Instead this is simply the raw data broken down.".
There is no evidence that, aside from Oxbridge probably, there is a better chance of employment by going to a certain Uni.
The last year of data is 2018, so reasonably out of date, now.
Manchester (your big hitter, Tizer) has fallen quite a bit in 17/18.
It would be really good to see a 24/25 version.

Now that I know about the start date of the York Law school, I think it looks even more impressive.
Started 2008, 1st graduates in 2011, and 2013 for the whole school cohort to graduate, plus a year for the LPC (I think), so 2014, as a minimum, to have meaningful/comparable data. And that's without any reputation/longevity.

This means that the 2016 report (data from '13-'15) relies much more on the York non-Law grads.

If you look at the Top 20 years table from the 2019 report, York is up there for the latter period (full coverage) and lower for 2010/11 (no Law grads).
There are the usual suspects of D-Oxbridge, Bristol, Exeter, Warwick and Nottingham, but then York is in and around the likes of Birmingham, Southampton and Sheffield. Leeds dropped off completely and Manchester reasonably so as well.

Re Bristol over York, based on rankings.
Law - Bristol 7, York 16, Manchester 24.
General - Bristol 15, York 12, Manchester 28.
So, by the same reasoning, you can't recommend Manchester over York!

I will repeat that your argument is more viable than that of @TizerorFizz
I do not understand why my post was deleted. It was 100% statement of fact which @TizerorFizz has made public on this site and was in no way a personal attack or hate speech. If you state facts about your life, a) you have no education b) you are 70 and c) your children are in their late 30s/ early 40s it is absolutely within other posters rights to pick up on these details.

@PrincessFrederica It's because the Admin reviewer will be reading it fresh, and won't have the context/history you have.

Anyway... any more views from DC who have done the course, or why DC have chosen it this year (about to start like Recruit's DN).

My son is studying History at York with a view to taking the 1 / 2 yr York Law LLM thereafter.

@HelliboreHelen
That's good! But any insight? Has he been able to get involved in any Law Society stuff, for example?

Sorry I was not clear. He's starting History there later this week, with a view to doing the Law thereafter. I will update though, with answers to your questions when I have them.