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Oxbridge 2025

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SnowFairy2000 · 18/12/2023 19:09

Let's start the journey here !!!

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HewasH2O · 27/11/2024 14:13

5starzz · 27/11/2024 13:25

Can you report these please @ontheturn - and are you able to suggest the other names (even clues) so that we know what info to take in good faith or not.

There is absolutely no need to turn this into some kind of witch hunt, as there is nothing to report. If you don't like the tone, don't bother reading the posts. I've only ever received good advice from someone who is the parent of current and recent students.

Good luck to those who have been invited to interviews.

Juja · 27/11/2024 14:47

Another current Oxford parent wishing everyone the very best of luck in the coming weeks with interviews. A couple of reflections from DD's experience...

Many applicants get interviewed again a week or so later by a second college so do encourage your DC to keep an eye on emails for a further invite. DD only worked out which college from the Teams invite and sometimes two colleges both are involved in the second interview. You can sometimes work this out sometimes from the names of the academics invited ie google their names.

When my daughter had online interviews she found the experience was very different between the two sets of interviews. The first college she was straight into the interview with limited introductions, pretty unfriendly and very business like. The second interview she was greeted in a waiting room by current students who checked she was okay, got her to blur her background and answered any questions. The actual interview was conducted by several people who were all in a room together with one of those panoramic cameras so a little harder to focus on the individuals as they didn't have separate screens for each person.

So I suppose I'm saying just encourage your DC to be a prepared for a range of ways the interviews might be conducted.

5starzz · 27/11/2024 14:56

Juja · 27/11/2024 14:47

Another current Oxford parent wishing everyone the very best of luck in the coming weeks with interviews. A couple of reflections from DD's experience...

Many applicants get interviewed again a week or so later by a second college so do encourage your DC to keep an eye on emails for a further invite. DD only worked out which college from the Teams invite and sometimes two colleges both are involved in the second interview. You can sometimes work this out sometimes from the names of the academics invited ie google their names.

When my daughter had online interviews she found the experience was very different between the two sets of interviews. The first college she was straight into the interview with limited introductions, pretty unfriendly and very business like. The second interview she was greeted in a waiting room by current students who checked she was okay, got her to blur her background and answered any questions. The actual interview was conducted by several people who were all in a room together with one of those panoramic cameras so a little harder to focus on the individuals as they didn't have separate screens for each person.

So I suppose I'm saying just encourage your DC to be a prepared for a range of ways the interviews might be conducted.

This is interesting as one of the individuals on the panel that my DS is being interviewed by (Cambridge) is from another (less popular college) - so we were wondering if he was 'pooled' already....? There are two separate interviews on the same day.

Juja · 27/11/2024 15:19

@5starzz - interesting - there can be a number of reasons colleagues from different colleges join an interview.

  1. Some colleges have job share arrangements or a fellow / lecturer at one college also tutors at another college so the email address isn't particularly significant.
  1. Some people join in other colleges interviews for monitoring, training and quality control.
  2. A college feels they would like to meet a broader pool of candidates than those that applied directly to their college while another college has lots of candidates. As Cambridge doesn't tend to do additional interviews they may well have decided to join some additional interviews.
5starzz · 27/11/2024 15:26

Thats really helpful @Juja - thank you for that insight and taking the time to respond.

tortoise18 · 27/11/2024 15:48

Is it unusual that my DC has two interviews (Cambridge MML, one for each language) but each with only one named interviewer? Can they expect someone else to be added in each case?

Penguinsn · 27/11/2024 15:51

Re interview notice for Oxford last year (E&M) DD got a week and a half's notice so Mon for following Wed, dates are on here. 1 interview for mgmt, 1 for economics. She was only interviewed at her first choice college which later offered but about half who got in there had an interview at a second college which was another 2 interviews so keep those dates free as well. She does plenty of socialising and sport as well as work but it is very intense during the 8 / 9 week terms. Normally rowing at 6am each day to start including in the snow. Good luck to everyone.

www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/applying-to-oxford/guide/interviews/interview-timetable2

Panicmode1 · 27/11/2024 16:09

ColouringPencils · 27/11/2024 12:55

Just out of interest, how many kids apply from your schools each year? Just thinking about @lbwagain comments about a dozen straight A* students being turned away.

At my DD's state school I think 6 have applied to Oxford and 2 to Cambridge. They usually don't get anyone into Oxford, but got 1 last year for the first time since anyone can remember. They seem to have slightly better odds for Cambridge. Most applicants are not predicted straight A*s and don't have perfect GCSEs.

DS was at a superselective state grammar - in his year they had 22 applications to Oxbridge, 20 were interviewed, 15 went to C and 3 to O. Last year I don't know how many applied but 22 were offered places (mainly to C) although I know that a couple were maths offers and they didn't make the STEP offer. This (current) year, they have fewer who have applied but so far, the interview 'hit' rate seems fairly high. I also disagree with a previous poster that offers are lower for state students - DS' offer was that he had to get A star in all four A levels, including FM.

Prior to DS' year, they usually had a handful of successful candidates - I don't know what has changed. A friend of mine with a child in a Bucks superselective grammar was told not to bother applying to Oxford as they are only looking for 'normal' state school children - no idea if that's right, but certainly there has been less success at Oxford for my son's grammar, so maybe there is something in that.

jowanga · 27/11/2024 16:15

@Panicmode1 I'm bucks and more at my child's grammar school opted for Cambridge and interviews have already secured for Law etc . Daughter should have applied there!

HewasH2O · 27/11/2024 16:20

That's a shocker @Panicmode1 if schools are actively telling people not to apply.

Panicmode1 · 27/11/2024 16:21

@jowanga maybe - but the great thing about medicine is that the course is rigorous at any med school so there's less of the 'my degree is better because I got it from XX uni' 😉And I know that you have said upthread that your DC liked the course, and despite what I've just said, in medical circles, according to my brother anyway, the Oxford course is seen as being a bit 'old fashioned'.

Juja · 27/11/2024 16:21

tortoise18 · 27/11/2024 15:48

Is it unusual that my DC has two interviews (Cambridge MML, one for each language) but each with only one named interviewer? Can they expect someone else to be added in each case?

Can't speak for Cambridge but the norm at Oxford. My DD had two separate interviews each with one person - one for each language.

Panicmode1 · 27/11/2024 16:25

HewasH2O · 27/11/2024 16:20

That's a shocker @Panicmode1 if schools are actively telling people not to apply.

I know. Outrageous!!

Juja · 27/11/2024 16:25

@Panicmode1 both my DC were at a state grammar school and went to Oxford as did quite a few of their friends. At their school there seems to be a huge variation in success rates year to year. I think it is partially random and perhaps related to subjects chosen and quality of the candidates rather than Oxford being biased against state grammar school kids.

jowanga · 27/11/2024 16:27

@HewasH2O There is a world renowned boys grammar in Bucks that actively encourage applicants to Cambridge as they don't have much success with Oxford . Maybe it's a bit like a football derby - too close as the county's butt up.
I bet plenty of Oxford Dons / tutors send their children over the border to bucks to access the free selective schools though 😂

tortoise18 · 27/11/2024 16:28

If you look at the number of acceptances from eg QE Boys then it doesn't seem like state grammars are struggling to get kids into Oxbridge tbh

loonyluna12 · 27/11/2024 16:29

There was a really useful spreadsheet for oxford that someone put on here. Anybody know if Cambridge have one too?

ColouringPencils · 27/11/2024 16:38

Wow @Panicmode1, your DS's offer was for 4 A*. That's crazy! I thought they always offered on 3. I agree with you about state school students getting the same offer- we were told on open day that every successful candidate would get the same offer.

Cubic · 27/11/2024 16:46

Ds is at a state grammar. All his friends group have applied to either Oxbridge or LSE. There is only two of them applied to Oxford. They are apparently an unusual year to have so many apply. Out of those who applied to C all but one have interviews. I think the school usually sends one or two each year. There will be others who he isn't aware of.

DS is still waiting to find out if he has an interview.

FloralGums · 27/11/2024 16:52

ThatllBeTheDay · 26/11/2024 20:59

Hi ontheturn I'm afraid I'd find being scripted slightly tricky - I've a butterfly mind. That's how I am in rl, often being hauled back from tangents :) I guess we all post in our own way but tbh all of my posts today are bang on the subject of the thread. I'm not posting about my recent trip to Seville for example, or my upcoming grooming appointment for my cocker spaniels Johnny and Billy. All of my posts have been about Oxford admissions. Please scroll past if not relevant to you and yours. Quite a few thanks seem to come in so I fully get that my posts may not be helpful to you, but if they are to others then that's something I guess.

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I find them helpful Thatllbetheday

Panicmode1 · 27/11/2024 16:58

jowanga · 27/11/2024 16:27

@HewasH2O There is a world renowned boys grammar in Bucks that actively encourage applicants to Cambridge as they don't have much success with Oxford . Maybe it's a bit like a football derby - too close as the county's butt up.
I bet plenty of Oxford Dons / tutors send their children over the border to bucks to access the free selective schools though 😂

It could well be the one of which you speak...but she was adamant her son would apply to C because of that advice ..

jowanga · 27/11/2024 17:02

@cubic I guess Cambridge interview more so at least a chance to shine / show commitment to the course of study chosen. There is something in water though re state grammar schools and Oxford not gelling / aligning. Maybe like medicine and a lot of city firms -education establishments should be blind and only the contextual data on the school / individual is available to admissions tutors . Maybe the so called 'calibre 'of students who get in to Oxford will be less affected by the bricks they were taught in. I'm going to actually wave goodbye now as really my time is up on this chat but it was lovely meeting you all .

FloralGums · 27/11/2024 17:07

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This is really horrible Ontheturn - encouraging people to gang up against Thatllbetheday like some mean gang of bullies at school.
Just scroll on by. Thatllbetheday hasn’t said anything wrong at all.
It’s fine to disagree but not to try and gang up on anyone.

ScatolaNera · 27/11/2024 17:08

jowanga · 27/11/2024 10:22

First time posting on this thread but a long term lurker, so please be kind and objective with me and sorry if I over share ! It's a terrible personality trait.

Firstly, thank you to everyone who contributes in any capacity to this thread as all the information has been extremely helpful in our long journey.

My own child didn't make the cut for shortlisting at Oxford for Medicine despite being amazing ( in my opinion Smile)

I think the algorithm used at Oxford ( I'm not sure about Cambridge) reflects their background school performance.

Child had great GCSEs, Predicted 3 A stars and an A at A level plus a significantly above average entrance test score.

However, 9 grade 9s, a7 and a 6 (out of the possible 11 sat) just wasn't good enough for her course and you can't argue with that. I believe ( and could be totally wrong) that Oxford looks at the percentage of the top grades ( 8 & 9s) to GCSE taken and my child's fell below the 90% of top grades and Ucat wasn't top 9th decile to counter that out .
I think this is fair enough as it levels the playing field between schools as extra consideration is given to students who attend less academic schools.

My only gripe is her contextual circumstances ( FSM, young carer due to my disability) may have had less impact because of her school type ( state grammar) which I feel a little salty about - can't lie!

Oxford admission statement says that 'FSM is a flag that tutors should consider when shortlisting due to under representation 'as only 6% on FSM nationally meet Oxford A level entry requirements ( my child is likely to exceed the standard offer for Oxford come results day) Not bragging as I'm sure they all will who apply.

We are a poor household and fall in this bracket , but also a happy family ( money can't buy that ).She gained a place at said grammar by her own Merrit as we live in an opt out county rather than opt in so primary school orchestrated the entrance test and all the children sat it ( possibly some opted out).

My child is pretty stoic and thinks her application would have been treated fairly by the admissions Tutors, so she bares no grudges but I do 😂

Honestly I think comparing gcse results to cohort puts children at state grammar schools at an unfair disadvantage. These schools don't get extra funding but some are ridiculously competitive to get into.

The results these schools achieve aren't just merely a reflection of the education the children have received but of the ability of the cohort.

The Oxford policy actually favours students in the vast majority of independent schools (in smaller classes with £££ being spent on their education and special oxbridge prep classes and interview prep laid on) over those at super selective grammars where the teachers simply don't have the time to provide this sort of help.

periodiclabel · 27/11/2024 17:12

There's no ganging up, the poster was suggesting to not engage if you don't like the tone.

If you don't find the tone snide and patronising then that's brilliant for you. Others do. It doesn't personally affect me because I've seen it all before but people who are stressed about their dc don't need to be told they're overreacting by being worried, that their children's applications were "deficient" and so on.

Fortunately this thread is nearly done.

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