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Uni of Bristol- is it very spread out?

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NCTDN · 23/01/2022 09:08

Dd loves here and would put it as her top choice for uni in September. However, she's led a very sheltered life and I worry that she will be totally lost ( not necessarily physically but pastorally) in Bristol. It didn't have the same feel as a campus (obviously) and with everything being so spread out, I worry if there is the same sense of community. I was very impressed on the open day with everything about the uni but can't allay these fears. I know it's not my choice btw.
Please share any experiences of there.

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TizerorFizz · 01/02/2022 10:52

@MarchingFrogs
You obviously don’t get irony! Of course serious clever students never go near clubs in MN world! So many say this on forums. I think in real life everyone does what they want including med students. In fact DC of posters might even try drugs! Those magic mushrooms are widely available!

Watchingblueplanet · 01/02/2022 11:07

It’s not just ketamine. A quick google search will show you that in 2019 sewage studies showed that Bristol had the highest traces of cocaine In Europe. My DD and I never expected a drugs free university experience. It was just the scale of the drug use in Bristol is enormous. Her friends at other unis have seen drugs but never to the same extent. At Bristol it is almost abnormal not to be taking anything. And Covid doesn’t seem to have changed much.

The point about the wardens wasn’t whether Nottingham was more or less of a party university. Nor was it whether you see the warden lots or not. A warden means there is a responsible official to call on in an emergency. No one is there at Bristol, not even a permanent night time security guard. The best you have is usually a second year student!

Needmoresleep · 01/02/2022 11:09

Tizerorfizz, when was your DD at Bristol. Given you are new to the board I had assumed she was a current student.

Things change quite quickly. Not least lockdown has had an impact. One example is that for societies, second years, who would normally be taking over the reins never had a chance to join and become active which is leading to continuity problems.

Theimpossiblegirl · 01/02/2022 11:25

Drugs are available everywhere. Yes, they may be more obviously prevalent in a large city but they are a part of every university/town. The lad above DD hotboxes his bathroom and is mostly stoned. Dd prefers to drink. It's university life, we can prepare them as much as possible but they're young adults and will probably party at uni in some way or another. I'd be more concerned if she didn't go out at all.

Freebus · 01/02/2022 11:59

My dd has a couple of friends at Bristol, neither party animals and both enjoying it.
I think the key thing is the flat you end up in. There are party flats everywhere and if that doesn't suit someone then they should really try to get moved .

There are also drugs everywhere and it's a bit niave of parents or teachers to take the word of their DCs or students that there isn't. We live in a pretty ordinary town and the school / 6th form college have always been open about the fact that there are a lot of drugs around here. The other day my youngest (who is reasonably open about what goes on) came in saying that the college bus has stunk of weed!

MarchingFrogs · 01/02/2022 12:01

@TizerorFizz, phewGrin

I thought for a moment that perhaps it was a new thing - medical students rebelling en masse against their reputation.

TizerorFizz · 01/02/2022 12:12

@Watchingblueplanet
Do you actually believe that??? Are you so easily duped? That was proved to be utter tosh.

TizerorFizz · 01/02/2022 12:16

I’m also assuming parents on here don’t have DC working in highly paid high pressure roles in London and go to dinner parties/parties there. There’s a whole new world of drug taking to be avoided. What is worse, you keep being surprised as to who is taking the drugs!

ApolloandDaphne · 01/02/2022 12:42

@TizerorFizz

I’m also assuming parents on here don’t have DC working in highly paid high pressure roles in London and go to dinner parties/parties there. There’s a whole new world of drug taking to be avoided. What is worse, you keep being surprised as to who is taking the drugs!
My DD who went to Bristol now lives and works in London. However she isn't in a high paying, high pressure job so she still doesn't dabble in drugs, just cheap wine at the weekend! Grin
Needmoresleep · 01/02/2022 12:48

@Theimpossiblegirl

Drugs are available everywhere. Yes, they may be more obviously prevalent in a large city but they are a part of every university/town. The lad above DD hotboxes his bathroom and is mostly stoned. Dd prefers to drink. It's university life, we can prepare them as much as possible but they're young adults and will probably party at uni in some way or another. I'd be more concerned if she didn't go out at all.
Yes, but different Universities have different approaches to anti-social behaviour by some students.

Some say, have security and a clear curfew, as in no noise after midnight. According to a friend, Leeds, which seems to have lost some of its reputation as a party University, is good at this. Oxbridge even has porters. My friend who managed student accommodation in Bournemouth said that as it was private, they were anxious to preserve the value of their property as well as keeping students safe. Her security would intervene if there were disruptive parties, or obvious signs of drug activity, and the University would back them up.

Much of Bristol's student accommodation is in Stoke Bishop, essentially a student village some way from the centre. Flats have as many as 12 residents, so a good chance of one or two who live a party lifestyle. Don't forget these are often 18 year olds away from home for the first time. Security are apparently instructed to respond only to student complaints, rather than hear, see or smell anything themselves. Unfortunately if a student does complain, say about a late night party and drugs are then found, unless someone owns up all the occupants of the flat could be found liable. A disaster for law and medical students who might find their fitness to practice compromised.

So no choice but to put up with it, and to somehow struggle through the academic year and 9.00am starts with little sleep. In DDs experience, the peer pressure was huge. Looking back it was straight bullying. Students should have a choice of not taking drugs, without being ostracised. When she did move, and it was an emergency move after a quite shocking incident, there were drugs in her new flat. Of course there were. However this time round the culture of the flat was dominated by a pretty straightforward group, and the main druggie largely stayed in her hotbox room with her dealer boyfriend, who had actually been expelled from his halls and from the University for trying to sell drugs to an off duty security guard.

Bristol's problems are about the isolation of the student accommodation and about the University's approach to management. They, like many on this board and presumably many students, probably don't think drugs matter. However some will find this environment difficult especially if they are not particularly into drugs and perhaps not that into clubbing, it is worth thinking about. DDs experience of Imperial College last year was very different. They do not seem to have anything like the same drug culture. Ditto DS' experience at LSE.

I also agree with Watchingblueplanet. about the adhominen attacks. OP asked for experiences. Blueplanet and my DC clearly have had different experiences than many, but they are still valid experiences. It appears that Tizerorfizz is determined to take up the mantel of a poster called BubblesBuddy who used to be robust in her belief that Bristol was wonderful and not to be criticised. I assume OP posted because she was genuinely interested in different views.

At the end of her first year DD suggested that Bristol would be a great University, if only they could get a handle on the drugs.

SeasonFinale · 01/02/2022 14:20

Whereas my DS currently in Stoke Bishop does not feel he is having the same experience as your DD did. Is his experience less valuable tl this conversation than your DDs? Yes he likes Bristol for the music and social scene and it is one of the reasons he chose it because there are so many gigs etc.

He does not find Stoke Bishop isolated and has friends in Stoke Bishop, Redland, Clifton and elsewhere. Stoke Bishop is very convenient for the sports provision (he is in 2 teams). Stoke Bishop has the added advantage of free buses running all night and this usually means there is always someone to travel with as they tend to do so in groups whereas sometimes those who live closer in town/walking distance are left to fend for themselves.

It just goes back to one person's experience is exactly that - one person's experience. If your child is likely to want to try drugs they will. If they don't want to they won't. I do also suspect that many have their heads in the sand as to whether this may have happened whilst in 6th form anyway.

All cities and all unis and all student bodies have their own drug issues and if someone wants to participate they will. Not all students like City unis, not all students like campus unis. Perpetuating stereotypes and using outdated "reputations" to categorise places and types of people who go there is pretty lazy.

So back to the original question. Many faculty buildings are grouped together, halls are varied so there is a good choice of different types of halls (although you have 9 choices but that can be eg. 4 different styles in one halls), more halls are being built which should alleviate the 1st year accommodation issues but in itself (and ignoring drug comments which are actually everywhere and sorry if you are naive enough to think they aren't) Bristol is a fab city with lots to offer and small enough to walk around you need to and even users are cheap enough that for 4 getting from one side to the other if you prefer that to a bus costs £1.50 each). DS has found that being in a catered Hall (not first choice) has led to him making some good friendship groups as they tend to eat together and from that it led to students going down for lectures whether same subjects or just same times has led to people knocking for and waiting for people.

There are nice kids there and not just drug crazed smackheads some would have you believe. Bristol still features heavily every year in the top 5 unis targeted by graduate employers so they must see something in their students too!

SeasonFinale · 01/02/2022 14:22

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Needmoresleep · 01/02/2022 14:59

I am certainly not saying any experience is less valid, or that each experience has to be the same. Its almost the reverse, as if people are not allowed to question whether Bristol is good at managing things if they go wrong.

Lots of people have a good time at Bristol. But...there are issues which I would like to believe the University acknowledge and are addressing.

SeasonFinale · 01/02/2022 15:06

I do believe since a certain TV programme Bristol have made great strides and I think it has been mentioned were the first uni that allows students to check a box which allows the uni to approach parents if there are certain worries or issues.

SeasonFinale · 01/02/2022 15:07

And at the same time other well regarded unis are still attempting to hide certain issues.

TizerorFizz · 01/02/2022 15:20

@SeasonFinale
Great posts. Perception and truth are often very different. Your comments are spot on and reflect what is normally found at Bristol.

Watchingblueplanet · 01/02/2022 18:02

This thread is sounding exactly like the last one I joined and the reason I stopped posting at all on Mumsnet. Too many parents on here refuse to accept a different view of Bristol to their own. My posts on based on my DD’s truth and not on some vague perception. Please acknowledge that this has been her reality.

I stress that she was not some cosseted mummy’s girl as others have implied. She is a happy outgoing teenager who fails to be impressed by a drug-taking lifestyle. There is one big difference between drugs and alcohol - drugs are still illegal in this country. Alcohol is not. For those DC who want careers where they must demonstrate that they are fit and proper to hold those jobs, getting involved in drug taking at uni is a big no no.

So to go back to the question of whether a sheltered child will be lost at Bristol, I still say yes. It would be last uni on earth I would put a sheltered child in.

Xenia · 01/02/2022 22:05

My 3 enjoyed Bristol and I don't mean "enjoyed" in a drugs sense, although they all drank at university. Like all universities there are students who take drugs. I remember one son said they avoided a particularly Bristol club because that was where people who took ket went. I graduated a teetotal virgin with law prizes (not from Bristol) although even in the 1980s that was pretty unusual but even today there will be students who do not drink alcohol for religious and other reasons etc - we can all get out of it what we choose.

Everyone's children's experience are relevant and I hope all mumsnetters whose children liked or did not like Bristol feel free to post what they want.

My twins who have their Bristol graduations in April (delayed due to Covid) were there relatively recently and did enjoy it a lot and had a good balance of work and going out and sport. More than drugs they were most surprised by how many students smoke cigarettes actually as we don't know anyone - friends, family, people their age, friends from school etc who smokes - so that was their biggest surprise and thankfully none of my children took it up. (They get £500 from me on their 21st birthday if they are not smokers)

bevelino · 02/02/2022 04:40

Two of my dds are Bristol students, one who graduated last year and the other currently on a year abroad. Their cousin is also a current student. All three were in halls at Stoke Bishop in their first year. My dds were in Wills Hall, which they loved. Neither are drug takers but they don’t deny it is readily available.

Their cousin was in a Hiatt Baker flat of 12 and hated it. There was drugs a plenty going on and she could not cope living in that environment and eventually was moved to another hall. All three were happier living in shared houses with friends after first year. They had no problems with the university being spread out and like walking.

In their experience dds would say that while they love Bristol and are fortunate to have had a happy time, they appreciate that not everyone does.

SeasonFinale · 02/02/2022 10:03

I don't think anyone is refusing to accept a different view @Watchingblueplanet rather they are saying different people have different experiences and Bristol is not that different to many other city unis.

A "sheltered" child may not thrive in any big city.

MarchingFrogs · 02/02/2022 20:27

It's probably possible to spend one's entire 3 years at Birmingham and never venture into the city centre at all, but naturally that is only of any use if one has applied for a place there.

NC2322 · 10/02/2022 05:46

There has been quite a lot of pearl clutching about drugs on this thread since I originally posted my reply to the OP 😂

It makes me quite sad to read some of these comments because I loved Bristol uni. As I said in my first reply, I was certainly sheltered myself, but I had the time of my life in Bristol and it set me on such a good path both personally and professionally.

I lived in a Stoke Bishop hall in my first year then Clifton for the final two years (finishing 5 years ago) and I didn't touch drugs once. I was also never offered them or tempted to seek them out. I was no recluse either - my friends and I probably went out 3 nights a week on average, sometimes more in the first year - generally ending up in clubs dancing like idiots, drinking too much vodka and doing too many shots and stumbling back in at 2 or 3am with a box of cheesy chips, then trying to stay awake in lectures the next day. Because we were 18! 🤷🏻‍♀️ (And I am not now a damaged reprobate, depending on your view.. I graduated with a 2:1 in law and am a solicitor in London).

If someone's DC wants to try drugs, they will find them, whether they live are in Bristol or a tiny sheltered village. Whether someone takes drugs really depends primarily on their attitude to drugs, not the availability of the drugs.

As for the space point - walking (yes walking) from Stoke Bishop to lectures with my flatmates was one of the best parts of the day. Also a great hangover cure and probably kept my weight under control 🙂

We had both a warden for our hall and another person (I forget the title) specific in our block, who we could go to for any issues. Very approachable and also kept things "under control", eg breaking up the rowdier parties, generally checking in that people were doing ok etc. There was also a lovely sense of community in the hall.

OP, I hope that wherever your DD ends up, she has a lovely time, but please don't let some of the comments on here put you off Bristol.

RampantIvy · 10/02/2022 07:30

I've known a few who have gone to look and it just hasn't appealed at all so they haven't applied

DD thought that Bristol sounded the best on paper, and hated it once she visited for an open day. It was too big and too overwhelming. She has CFS and knee joint problems and found it too hilly.

It was an expensive visit as it was too far to do there and back in one day, but she was glad she went even if it was to rule it out.

Needmoresleep · 10/02/2022 07:31

NC2322, “Pearl clutching” is a pretty pejorative description of other people’s experience. Do you not believe them? Or simply that you don’t accept that other 18 year olds may be different,

There are no wardens now. There are plenty of drugs. You describe going out clubbing more than three nights a week in your first year and returning drunk at 2 or 3 am as “normal”. Yes in Bristol that sounds pretty normal and in a flat of 12 there are very likely to be several “normal” students. Trouble is that if you don’t like clubbing, if you don’t have spare cash, and one of DDs friends had parents on benefits, or if you have a full day of teaching starting at 9.00am, or worse still at a placement somewhere which is only accessible by a once an hour bus from central Bristol, you won’t have the same life style. And won’t enjoy being woken at 3.00am.

And if those “normal” students decide to emphasise the differences, and there is a certain amount of that on these threads but more in large flats with 18 year olds desperate to show they fit in, and label you as “boring”, Bristol can feel very isolated.

NC2322 · 10/02/2022 08:26

@Needmoresleep

NC2322, “Pearl clutching” is a pretty pejorative description of other people’s experience. Do you not believe them? Or simply that you don’t accept that other 18 year olds may be different,

There are no wardens now. There are plenty of drugs. You describe going out clubbing more than three nights a week in your first year and returning drunk at 2 or 3 am as “normal”. Yes in Bristol that sounds pretty normal and in a flat of 12 there are very likely to be several “normal” students. Trouble is that if you don’t like clubbing, if you don’t have spare cash, and one of DDs friends had parents on benefits, or if you have a full day of teaching starting at 9.00am, or worse still at a placement somewhere which is only accessible by a once an hour bus from central Bristol, you won’t have the same life style. And won’t enjoy being woken at 3.00am.

And if those “normal” students decide to emphasise the differences, and there is a certain amount of that on these threads but more in large flats with 18 year olds desperate to show they fit in, and label you as “boring”, Bristol can feel very isolated.

Hi @Needmoresleep, I think you took something else from my post than what I intended - my bad - I perhaps wasn't clear enough while posting in the early hours!

I certainly didn't mean to suggest that every uni student has to go clubbing until 2am to fit in - I don't think they do. I was just describing that (one aspect) of my first year of uni to explain that it is perfectly possible to enjoy that side of uni life hugely, making great friends and having lots of fun, without a whisper of drugs. I'm sure that aspect of uni life still won't interest some students, but my experience / understanding is that the vast majority of 18-21 year olds do want to go out a bit, dance, drink and socialise. And that's the case whichever uni you go to.

Perhaps we are also understanding different things from the word "sheltered" too. I didn't take from OP's original post that her daughter had no intention of doing any "partying" in Bristol or that she would be restricted to benefits, or anything else you mention in your post as a possibility for what a "sheltered" person means. I just understood it to mean that she has perhaps been a bigger fish in a smaller pool for now, maybe having grown up in a village or small town with a small community and hasn't had to navigate a large city or had many "grown up" experiences yet. So I related to that description and wanted to provide reassurance. If my understanding wasn't correct though, perhaps OP can clarify and then people may be able to provide more tailored advice.

Apologies if you took offence at "pearl clutching", which wasn't directed at anyone who has experienced their child taking drugs in Bristol (I actually didn't spot any posts saying that anyway). I used it as a light hearted way of commenting on certain parents who seem to be frightened about the mere existence of drugs in a city where their child lives. As I say, it's tends to be someone's attitude to drugs that informs whether they say "yes" or seek them out, not their availability.