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Oxbridge Aspirants 2021 - New Thread (2)

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Baaaahhhhh · 07/09/2020 12:04

Sorry posted last message on the last thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/higher_education/3757768-Oxbridge-Aspirants-Sep-2021

Here is the new one......

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Tenpastseven · 02/11/2020 22:11

I know @Pumpkintopf. I feel really sorry for the students at that school. I’m not sure if the school was acting as a centre for other applicants too.

Good luck for Thursday (and the stressful lead up!)

Pumpkintopf · 02/11/2020 22:28

Thanks so much tenpast - and best of luck to all the DCs preparing this week, whether for entrance exams or submission of work.

DS was telling me about his friend who has applied for Cambridge although his first choice would actually be Imperial- DS thought he was mad, as he put it 'why would you put yourself through it if you didn't really want it?'

My favourite part of the day at the moment is checking in on this thread with you all. So much support and understanding here. Thanks everyone.

Tenpastseven · 03/11/2020 11:06

Aw that's nice to hear @Pumpkintopf. I really enjoy checking in too.

OnTheBenchOfDoom · 03/11/2020 11:50

Ds's sixth form has yet another case of Covid so we now feel completely justified in keeping him home. He may not have had to self isolate but there are more cases happening. He is going in Thursday morning for the test. They are using their sports hall.

He has also had an offer from Manchester uni so he feels less worried about it all now as he has 2 offers both lower than his predicted grades.

Originally mocks would have happened in June of year 12 complete with 1 week of study leave plus the May half term for revision. Now they are having them in December with a study leave period. So basically no break for Ds. Currently doing all he can to make sure he passes his entrance exam for Cambridge then straight into starting his revision for mocks.

Awful for those now denied access to their test centre. Hopefully they are able to do it at home. Ds did the mock one where you check your connection etc. They said they don't keep a score of what you got but I don't know.

IrmaFayLear · 03/11/2020 12:12

Dd is “skiving” today too !

fabtasticmrpox · 03/11/2020 13:54

Just checking in , Dd put in an open application for Oxford and has been assigned St Hilda's.

Her exams are tomorrow and she is pretty nervous. She has gone to school today, not much Covid where we are. Looking at other kids gcse results I'm half expecting her not to get an interview . She got an unexpected 6 for English Lang. ( applying for English lit and MFL joint )

Good luck for everyone tomorrow Smile

DahliaMacNamara · 03/11/2020 14:22

Good luck to your DD (and everyone else's DC), fabtastic. My DD's pinning her hopes on the exam to pull her up a bit, as her GCSEs are comparatively patchy by Oxbridge applicant standards, if MN is anything to go by. Fantastic in her own and related subjects, and good enough to have attracted two offers already, but she'd be way down the list if that was all they had to look at.

Johnathonripples · 03/11/2020 15:07

Is there a way to see the no of gcses / how many 9s successful applicants to Cambridge have?
Lol- actually maybe I don’t want to know! Grin

FrauFreud · 03/11/2020 15:49

Joining very late and just as it’s getting exciting/particularly nerve racking! DS sitting CAT for classics IA tomorrow. Any other aspirational classicists around?

DeRigueurMortis · 03/11/2020 16:03

@Johnathonripples

It doesn't really work that way.

It used to...in the sense they used to look at the result last in isolation, now they look at them in context because it's deemed to be a better way to assess potential.

So by way of example a child at a top flight selective public school may have gained 12 x grade 9's. That's obviously a fantastic achievement. However in that school, it's not an unusual occurrence and other students will have attained the same results (or very close to it). Even "average" students in that school walk away with 10 GCSEs most of which are grade 7 and above perhaps with a smattering of 6's.

In comparison a child in a poorly performing non selective state school may have results of 1x grade 8, 2 x grade 7 and 6 x grades 5 to 6. However that's an outstanding result in that school and way above the average grades a pupil in that school would have been expected to achieve.

In context the achievements of the latter would be "ranked" just as, if not more highly as an indication of future potential.

These are obviously extreme examples but you get the idea.

Two children with the same grades would not necessarily rank the same when you put their results in the context of the overall results of the school they attended.

That said GCSE results are just one part of the admissions assessment. They are also looking at predicted A level grades and the personal statement.

DeRigueurMortis · 03/11/2020 16:13

@Johnathonripples

Sorry just to add, it's also important which GCSE's they scored highly in.

So let's take a child who is brilliant at English and that's what they want to study. They scored really highly in that (and semi related subjects such as History). Thing is they are not great at Maths and got a grade 5.

You don't want to turn away a child that because maths wasn't a a strong point because it's something that's irrelevant to their potential to thrive and be successful in their chosen subject at degree level.

DeRigueurMortis · 03/11/2020 16:14

Sorry for the typos - I seem to have fat finger re:my phone today Grin

ChimneyPot · 03/11/2020 16:29

Anyone else’s child having to force themselves to block out the US election.

I know if it were not for the TSA on Thursday DD would bring staying up half the night tonight to follow the results as they come in.

Millylovespuddles · 03/11/2020 16:40

Chimney - thankfully not... but we have just come in from a wet and windy walk. It's the first time DD has been out of the house house since Saturday, so it was heavily suggested (forced) by me as essential pre-bmat preparation!

calculatorqueen · 03/11/2020 16:48

@ChimneyPot Yes for the elections but DS has an important maths test tomorrow and then the TSA on Thursday. I'm trying really hard to be laid back about all this. He has a tendency to stress and so I think the best thing is for him to be as relaxed as possible, give the TSA a go and see what happens. He's got excellent GCSEs and A level predictions from a state school but I think the test could be his downfall. But I'd rather he know at this point that he's not suited/capable rather than in 18 months time. So what will be will be and I'm a strong believer that everything works out in the end.

FlyingSquid · 03/11/2020 16:54

I’m surprised that the centres are happy to go ahead (particularly those in high covid + areas) given that there will be students from different places coming together into an already existing bubble

That's my daughter's situation, and the test centre have warned them to dress warmly as the exam hall will be 'well ventilated in accordance with COVID guidelines', which I assume means bloody freezing because the doors and windows are all open.

DahliaMacNamara · 03/11/2020 16:56

@ChimneyPot

Anyone else’s child having to force themselves to block out the US election.

I know if it were not for the TSA on Thursday DD would bring staying up half the night tonight to follow the results as they come in.

Yup, same here. She's been unusually diligent about getting enough sleep at the right time over the last week or so. Normally we'd both be up all night for an election like this.
Johnathonripples · 03/11/2020 16:58

Yes.. I see that Derig .. was just thinking though that it would be interesting to see evidence of that too
I’ll be quite glad when admission test is over and done with. Dc has had 3 weeks out of school so far since Sept so if we can get to Thurs without whole of the year being sent home again, I shall be v relieved! Someone up thread mentioned ticking things off and that’s exactly how I feel in these strange times .

SATSmadness · 03/11/2020 17:22

Well DD managed to get all the way to the eve of BMAT day without anyone else in school testing +ve for Covid and providing a contact list which included her, so looks like she's all set for tomorrow.

Someone posted (elsewhere) that BMAT is easier than UCAT. DD and her school cohort BMAT applicants definitely don't hold this opinion. I presume nerves come in to play with this opinion given that they all have UCAT under their belts already.

Good Luck to anyone's DC sitting BMAT tomorrow morning.

goodbyestranger · 03/11/2020 17:33

DeRigueurMortis do you base those particular figures (twelve Grade 9s from a top independent selective equating to one Grade 8, two Grade 7s and six Grade 5/6s from a poorly performing state non selective) on any real data at all? I would say they were wide of the mark. Also, twelve Grade 9s are a very rare achievement at even the highest performing schools, so it's a stretch to call them 'usual'.

JulesJules · 03/11/2020 18:33

Have been lurking on these threads and reliving D1's application from last year. Best of luck to all taking aptitude tests this week, especially those taking the HAT as D1 did. Fwiw, she came out having found it challenging and having no idea how she had done. Then there was a bit of a disaster with her submitted work and she ended up having to photocopy pages from her exercise book to send on the day of the deadline. However, she got an interview, and offer, and is now at Oxford (History joint).

I feel for you all and your DCs, it's a stressful process, even more so with the current situation. I found these threads a real source of support. Good luck all!

Baaaahhhhh · 03/11/2020 18:34

Dd just got an offer from Southampton for AAB, so is pleased to get a lower offer in. Sussex have said they are planning to offer soon. So that just leaves Oxford and Warwick, her two preferred.

With regards to GCSE's, a couple of DD1's friends had very spiky profiles ie: high in their subjects, low in irrelevant ones. Got offers. So never say never, even if you don't have those stellar grades.

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quest1on · 03/11/2020 18:37

Well... after a significant debacle with the printer / scanner - the two essays and SEN form have been submitted! Thank god for that,

Now it’s just wait and see if an interview is offered.

He did an alternative PS for Durham too, in the end.

Best of luck to all DC with exams in the next day or two and roll in the weekend.

I have another one doing GCSE mocks this week - just for extra fun.

DS now has to focus on his NEA, as well as EPQ presentation in a week or two (but that’s just some slides, the EPQ is in).

One step at a time..

quest1on · 03/11/2020 18:43

Wow congrats Baaah!

Also to Doom on the Manchester offer. Amazing!

Not a whiff of anything here...,

sandybayley · 03/11/2020 18:45

Best of luck to everyone taking tests. Last year DS1 took the TSA and didn't do brilliantly. It didn't matter as for his subject (Chemistry) it wasn't used to make final decisions. I think Oxford are collecting data to see if it correlates with future outcomes in Chemistry. Maybe it's the same this year?

I'd also say to any parents from high performing selective schools (independent or grammar) not to worry that great GCSE results won't carry much weight in an application . Reading these threads you could get the impression that they won't. They form part of a picture and won't do an applicant any harm. They might not carry as much weight as if they were earned at a lower performing school but multiple 9s are an a great achievement wherever they are gained.