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Did your A Level dc get their centre assessed grade?

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thatone · 15/08/2020 06:58

My ds got his 'A' Level results but not his centre assessed grades. My understanding was that students would be given both sets of results. Was anyone given birth sets or did you request the cag separately?

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redcarbluecar · 15/08/2020 07:09

Sorry, not a parent perspective but I’m an A level teacher and we didn’t give students their centre assessed grade. I can see why they’d want to know, but it’s an internal procedure (and tricky with large cohorts and the need for a rank order), and the grades were always susceptible to change. I do sympathise with any student caught up in this political mess though.

Peaseblossom22 · 15/08/2020 07:16

The data belongs to the student therefore you cannot refuse to give it out . Our CAG ( not the ranking) was sent out yesterday to every candidate . If you refuse then a student can issue a SAR and that’s a massive amount of work for a school.

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 15/08/2020 07:20

Teacher here too and Peaseblossom is right re ownership of the data - we sent all the students their CAG alongside their Ofqual generated results.

We are being more cautious with regard to the rank order of a student within the grade as obviously releasing that information has the potential to violate the privacy of other students.

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thatone · 15/08/2020 07:38

Very interesting information, thank you all for the clear explanation.

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OnGoldenPond · 15/08/2020 07:58

DS was given centre assessed greases when he went into the school for help when his awarded grades came out way below expectations. Sure enough, he had been downgraded by two grades. This had happened across the board at his college. One teacher almost in tears as her subject had never had a fail in the entire history of the college but this year three from a class of 20 given U.

Absolute disgusting shitshow.

OnGoldenPond · 15/08/2020 07:58

Grades, not greases!

BillywilliamV · 15/08/2020 08:05

Badly need some good news from the A Level marks, my GCSE student is working herself into hysteria, not sure how we will get through till Thursday..

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thatone · 15/08/2020 09:29

That's awful so sorry to hear that OnGoldenPond. I agree it has been heartbreakingly unfair for so many. I hope your ds' grades can be rectified, and those of all the other students who have been treated so unfairly.

BillywilliamV I also have ds2 waiting for GCSE results. Ds1 was lucky he will go to Uni but I am aware and concerned that that is partly down to the luck of the algorithm. I wanted to see if his grades had been adjusted though.

Not sure if it will be the same for ds2.

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OnGoldenPond · 15/08/2020 11:35

Luckily DS has been given a place at his insurance choice despite being 2 grades below his offer. The head of the course personally rang him and discussed his performance and when he told him his teacher submitted grades confirmed his place on the spot.

vezden87 · 15/08/2020 11:41

Our CAGs weren't automatically sent out but we were told we could email the exams officer and they were sent out that way.

Does anyone know if you are "legally" allowed to know rank order and access to previous years' exam results for the school by subject?

xyzandabc · 15/08/2020 11:46

Our school CAGs weren't automatically sent out but if students request them then they are given them. So many requests though that turn around is taking a while so some won't get them until early next week.

Maladicta · 15/08/2020 11:51

Ds’s School sent out the CAGs 15 mins after the results were released, it allowed him to see he’d been adjusted down in two subjects. Being able to see that the school had assessed him roughly as he expected allowed him to rationalise it. He also felt he’d have been in a stronger position to talk to unis in Clearing, although luckily his first choice accepted him anyway.

NaturalBlondeYeahRight · 15/08/2020 11:52

No CAGs on the day, they haven’t mentioned them but I requested them Thursday afternoon. No reply yet, presume they have a lot going on. DD got two good grades and one odd one. Was accepted by uni but we can’t see a reason for the grade given

Theimpossiblegirl · 15/08/2020 11:56

At dds school they were told to ask for them, which they then did. The teachers had them to hand ready.

Decorhate · 15/08/2020 12:00

Ds’ school said they were giving out the grades assigned by the exam boards, the CAGS and the results of the two mocks sat in Y13.

The school I work at had the CAGs in separate envelopes for anyone who wanted a copy there and then.

Decorhate · 15/08/2020 12:02

@vezden87 I don’t know about rank order but many schools have the details of last year’s results somewhere on their website

seedybird · 15/08/2020 12:09

At DD's school, they were given the CAG's alongside the A Level results on the day.

YesThisIsMe · 15/08/2020 12:12

DC’s school originally said you could request them by email but then realised that everyone would be asking and that would just be too much work sending them out so they made them available on the individual results portal.

They’ve said that rank order will be available on request because they legally have to but they strongly recommended that students don’t ask.

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thatone · 15/08/2020 12:16

Thank you for your responses, interesting to see the variations. I might request the cag anyway then.

That's a relief OnGoldenPond I'm glad the Uni were flexible.

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Divoc2020 · 15/08/2020 12:42

Yes, given the CAGs in the same email as the results.

cmanni · 15/08/2020 13:11

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jumpher · 15/08/2020 14:03

Yes, they were emailed the next day to students

Campervan69 · 15/08/2020 14:09

Yes. We asked for them and they were emailed over the same day as the results. He has been marked down a grade in 2 subjects.

SallyLondon · 15/08/2020 14:26

We got CAG results on a separate piece of paper on the day which did soften the blow of really awful actual grades (because we knew that the awfulness was down to Ofqual and not the school). My DC was knocked down at least a grade in all three subjects to results that we cannot recognise as theirs. I am so angry about it, for their sake and the many friends who are also affected.

I have requested the rankings and last three years of results so I can have a rough go crunching the data myself, but these have not yet been forthcoming.

ThankyouPeter · 15/08/2020 14:27

The issue is that the CAGs weren't used to determine students grades at all in most schools. They weren't looked at and then moderated down if they were considered over optimistic. They just weren't used at all. The algorithm determined the number of grades at each level that a school could expect based on previous data and then allocated those grades based on the rank order provided. This is not how the process was sold to us at all and is the basis for a legal challenge. It is utterly shocking but the truth is that grades were determined by position in the rankings and CAGs were a pointless exercise to make everyone think it was going to based on teacher assessment.

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