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Oxbridge 2020 (thread number 9)

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DadDadDad · 06/04/2020 19:06

What a year! Just as we've all become experts (at least in our own minds Smile ) about how to write Personal Statements, Oxford admission tests and Cambridge STEP, the complicated dance of the interview process, and how to simultaneously boost our DSs' and DDs' confidence while preparing them for the possibility of disappointment, we have a new topic to learn: statistical modelling of expected grades.

Of course, like all those previous topics, we're not in control of teacher projection and OfQual rejection, but we have this thread to support each other through the coming months.

All welcome. For the record, I have a DS with an Oxford offer for a humanities subject.

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goodbyestranger · 14/05/2020 09:36

DD4 ordered all ten books yesterday - free delivery from Blackwells :) - so they're on their way. The tutor emphasized in his email that the books were all 'fun' and 'page turners'! So, good sunbathing stuff! (he also threw in the fact that the course was extremely hard work, but all the interesting for it, apparently ....).

MiniJellyBeans · 15/05/2020 12:54

Hello all, I'm very late to this thread but DD1 has an offer for geography at Oxford (A*AA) - she was cheered up a few days ago by joining a Facebook messenger chat for Oxford geography offer holders, and then subsequently another chat for all offer holders for her specific college. I know Facebook isn't the preferred social media for teenagers, but it has made her feel a bit more positive overall.

DadDadDad · 15/05/2020 13:44

Welcome, @MiniJellyBeans. I don't think you are anywhere near being too late to join this thread. There's plenty to happen yet!

DS has found an online group for offer holders in his subject - Oxford only make around 30-40 offers so it's a small bunch. I think they've even had a few zoom chats or similar.

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ofteninaspin · 15/05/2020 14:09

So pleased your DS has made a decision @GinWorksForMe.
Four family members have/are doing Warwick Maths degrees and all report very positive experiences.

MiniJellyBeans · 15/05/2020 14:11

Thanks for the welcome @DadDadDad!

SnapSnapDragon · 15/05/2020 14:56

Hello all and welcome @MiniJellyBeans. I just joined quite recently myself. It would have been useful to have found this at the personal statement and interview stage, but I'll know for next time (just kidding, there's zero chance of DD1 troubling Oxbridge admissions tutors).

DS is very happy. Schoolwork has been a little intense, with various tests sprung on them without warning, but I think he’s glad to be kept on his toes. After half term they’ll be doing optional project work. I’m not sure what he will do; I’m encouraging him to press ahead with learning more maths, but that’s only so I can have the fun of doing it with him. Anyway, all this schoolwork hasn’t prevented him from going on huge cycle rides. He even went out with me last week and then ditched me about 10 miles from home because I was too slow.

He hasn't been in touch with any offer holders and doesn't show much interest actually. He's not a fan of social media.

It’s good to hear that all our offer holders seem to be doing well. I must say I feel quite humbled by those who are a) working on the front line, b) volunteering, c) helping around the house and garden. None of that going on around here I’m afraid.

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Ironoaks · 15/05/2020 20:02

DS has finished teaching himself the remaining topics on the A-level courses and has found some past papers online to do.

He found some other offer-holders on Discord and Instagram and has joined whatsapp groups for both the college and the course. The college group had a long zoom chat this week.

He is quite a resilient sort of chap and has stayed positive through all the changes and uncertainty.

Ironoaks · 15/05/2020 20:04

Hi to @MiniJellyBeans

horsemadmom · 17/05/2020 00:56

Glad to hear that everyone is coping. DD2 was hospitalised over Feb half term and released with an appointment for a more aggressive form of treatment. Then came lockdown. No prospect of treatment any time soon and DD2 has been left with nothing but morphine and apologies. She's too drugged up to follow online lessons. Not sure what we would have done if she had had to sit her A levels. Her Oxford college has been lovely and has rearranged her room requirements for wheelchair access and her reading list books have been transferred from DD1's room to hers (dd1 finished the same subject last summer). DD2 can't do much more than look at the spines. We live in hope.

littlenickyy61 · 17/05/2020 01:33

I am just starting off the application process with my daughter and to be perfectly honest I feel a bit out of my depth. Does anyone who has just been through it have any advice or if it’s easier is there a link to the original thread.
Thanks so much

SnapSnapDragon · 17/05/2020 08:46

Oh @horsemadmom, that’s awful for your DD and it makes me angry that treatment has stopped for her and so many others. I hope that the delay, besides being horrid and depriving her of health at the moment, won’t have a long-term impact. I’m glad the college is being helpful. The cancellation of A-levels must indeed feel like a blessing. Every cloud has a silver lining.

@littlenicky61, there’s probably plenty of advice in earlier threads if you dig for it, but I’m happy to give my thoughts, having (almost) reached the other side.

You’re ahead of where we were this time last year actually. I still had my head in the sand and only really started engaging in the university admissions process in about July. His school weren't much further ahead: they’d started to bandy around the word “supercurricular” by May, which is the first time I’d heard it, but for us the real work and thinking was over the summer.

First, some reassurance. I imagine it feels doubly daunting as we’re in lockdown and you may be wondering whether this will impact your daughter’s application, e.g. she won’t be able to carry out any plans she may have made. Well, this is just one data point, but there was nothing my son did to prepare for his application that he wouldn’t have been able to do in lockdown. That’s because his preparation involved a lot of reading, watching documentaries, going to museums (OK, maybe that bit wouldn’t be possible), discussions with professors at our local universities (I guess he could have done these by Zoom). But the point is, by this time last year all the extra-curriculum achievements had been ticked off (and these were shoe-horned into a couple of sentences in the personal statement anyway) and the focus was very much on the subject. So, my advice would be for your daughter to spend the time reading about her subject and coming up with interesting angles to write about in her personal statement.

Open Days are things that your DD is probably missing out on. Again, one data point, but we waited until September before going to the Open Day and by that stage it was interesting, but wasn’t at all critical as DS had already thoroughly researched the subject and colleges online. It did change his views on colleges, but this was a bit random really: at his original preferred college his guide was quite fierce and didn’t even try to hide her disdain for private school pupils, whereas at the other college his guide was welcoming and smiley. Anyway, I’m sure he would have been just fine with no Open Day and with selecting his college blind.

The only things that are different about an Oxbridge application are: a more academic focus to the personal statement, earlier admission date, an admissions test for most subjects, and interviews. OK, that sounds like quite a lot, but if you take it one step at a time it’s really manageable, I promise.

HuaShan · 19/05/2020 17:26

Prompted by a friend whose daughter recieved an email from Oxford, I checked with DS. Very reassuring email saying they hope to have students incite on October, lectures online but small groups and tutorials face to face. Also recieved a request to confirm funding from the college so very definite optimism in our house today!

Ironoaks · 19/05/2020 17:39

HuaShan that sounds encouraging.

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Nearlyoldenoughtowearpurple · 19/05/2020 20:05

FYI, dd is going back to year 3 in October, just seen in the Tab that they have confirmed all lectures will be online next term.
Just in case that influences any deferrals etc

chitchattery · 19/05/2020 20:50

@Coleoptera
There is this article in Varsity tonight. My DD leaves (has left reallySad) this term so not directly affected but it might be useful
www.varsity.co.uk/news/19258

AChickenCalledDaal · 19/05/2020 22:20

BBC news also now reporting that all Cambridge lectures will be online for the whole of next year.

Today's been a bit crap at work and now this has made me feel very sad.

PantTwizzler · 19/05/2020 23:22

Yes, just seen that news. Presumably it will be similar in Oxford. Seems a bit OTT to me -- and I hasten to add that with a husband who has been treating covid patients, I am a big fan of the lockdown.

Like you chicken I feel very sad about this. If it's just lectures remotely with everything else more normal, that would be ok I suppose -- but I can't imagine that anything like normal university life would be possible so will they just keep everyone away?! Seems bonkers especially in light of schools going back.

PantTwizzler · 19/05/2020 23:23

Sorry missed the earlier messages on the subject which are more upbeat. Think I am hormonal: ignore me!

Ellmau · 20/05/2020 00:00

It implies tutorials may still be OK, and ime lectures are the least essential aspect.

sandybayley · 20/05/2020 07:04

Lectures are just one part of the experience and the easiest thing to do online. It's sensible of Cambridge to plan for this, let's hope they can reconsider if/when things change.

At my university plenty of students were not assiduous lecture attendees, particularly the 9am ones. The option to watch from bed would have been a popular one. 😬

AChickenCalledDaal · 20/05/2020 08:09

Yes, you are quite right that lectures are only one part of the experience. Hopefully small group teaching will be ok. But for me this feels like the first really official confirmation that her first year at university is going to be so far removed from the experience we'd love her to have.

sandybayley · 20/05/2020 08:15

Agreed @AChickenCalledDaal - I'm an optimistic sort and am trying to keep positive for DS1. He's rattled by all of this so focussing on what he'll have (4 years at Oxford) rather than what he won't (lectures) is my way of getting us both through this.

PortusCale · 20/05/2020 10:22

It's been a while since I've been on this thread, hope that everyone is keeping well and your DCs are ok.

I felt pretty sad last night, what a way for all our DCs to start their uni lives.

I know it's how it is but that doesn't stop the feelings - DS is, as ever, philosophical about it but I'm more of an emotional person! Just hope that things improve as time goes by and they get to experience a full uni life.

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