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The ABC of university life (2019/20 cohort) - Will NewModelArmyMayhem18 forgive me?

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MrKlaw · 07/10/2019 13:51

previous thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/higher_education/3701968-The-ABC-of-university-life-2019-20-cohort-settling-in-we-hope

Hope you don't mind - people have pent up comments about cheese graters and traffic cones to get out of their system!

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FannyCann · 20/10/2019 11:07

Oh. Thanks. Good advice.

Dunlurking · 20/10/2019 11:13

Thanks for posting about the lurgy everyone. @ZandathePanda I hope your dd recovers soon. @NewModelArmyMayhem18 hope your ds stays clear of it. Glad your dd is over it after those few days off school. And that your dd has come through the other side of it as well @Ginfordinner. Thanks for letting me know about your dd at Vanbrugh @DrMadelineMaxwell. At least it isn't all over the campus. Fingers crossed your dd stays clear of it.

Dd has messaged that she slept well last night and is feeling a little better. And definitely not to come! I fell a bit happier about her now.

@FannyCann I am very cynical (and realistic I think) about the accommodation process now. Ds had to chose and put in order and say something about whether he was sociable and his interests, for Warwick. He was going to his first choice uni and applied very early for the halls etc. Got a hall not of his choice and flatmates not of his compatibility description. Seemed like all totally ignored. So put down what you can afford, and if there's a particular section that is known to be for partygoers and you have a choice, avoid or chose as desired. I honestly don't think you can plan more than that. What @Trewser said. Definitely avoid ground floor, and also being next to kitchen if possible.

DrMadelineMaxwell · 20/10/2019 11:17

Dd had to opt for seven different accommodation choices with no requests for info about personality etc.

FannyCann · 20/10/2019 11:24

Thanks. All good advice. I'll make sure DD and I both book a day off for the day accommodation opens so we can get on it early.

I think with DD1 accommodation was arranged single sex and she was very happy with her flat mates. I never gave it much thought until I read, on a thread here, about a DD who was dropping out as she had had such an appalling experience with her flat mates and no support from the uni. I don't think DD2 has any appreciation of how she would find it if she is the only girl in a group of partying boys. This is the girl who had to be evacuated along with three friends, from Boardmasters festival. Camping out surrounded by lots of heavy drinking (?drug taking) all night rowdies definitely wasn't for her or her friends. She has never expressed an interest in going to a festival since. Grin

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 20/10/2019 11:29

@Dunlurking glad to hear your DD is feeling a bit better today.

Agree about the accommodation process and allocation. The NTU way of doing things seems to be a bun fight and a canny way of getting young people to firm it.

Alicatz66 · 20/10/2019 11:29

My DS is at Nottingham Uni ... all they could chose was where to live .. so he chose Broadgate Park in a flat with 6 others who he didn't meet till he got there ... there are 3 girls and 4 boys and they all get on well .. all he could chose was a basic room, an en suite room or a studio ... he went for basic as cheaper and you meet the others in the kitchen.

FannyCann · 20/10/2019 11:38

Also hope all your DC get better soon. Fresher's "flu" is definitely a thing and DD1 was laid very low with it for several weeks, came home for a few days tlc, but I think it must boost the immunity or something. No problems since. I suppose it's quite good tough love for them to learn to manage their own health, check in with a GP etc. But a worry none the less.

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 20/10/2019 11:55

Yes, sorry, didn't just mean good wishes for @Dunlurking's DD but for all DC struck down by the lurgy. Not nice without parental TLC to hand.

loveislikeabutterfly · 20/10/2019 11:55

Hope all those coughs and colds go away soon. While there's a bit of an accommodation theme though, please can I ask for any recommendations, or the opposite, for Uni of Birmingham halls? Ideally friendly and sociable but for someone not a wild partygoer. Thanks

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 20/10/2019 12:10

@loveislikeabutterfly, I seem to recall one of the Mumsnetters who was in this thread earlier on (when it was more about applying to university), had a DC who had taken a gap year but got a confirmed place at B'ham University. Despite being very quick off the mark in making accommodation choices, well ahead of the majority (and so in theory at an advantage), I'm sure the MNetter reported that they'd been allocated the most expensive halls, at nigh on £8K per annum.

I do think the whole thing is a lottery at most universities. it would be better to go back to the days of a 'one size fits all' type of accommodation. It is wrong that there is also such variation in cost. I

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 20/10/2019 12:12

Sorry, forgot to add that the very expensive accommodation option allocated wasn't even on the young person's list of preferred halls!

Ginfordinner · 20/10/2019 12:14

I agree about the cost variation, but I would expect to pay more for new build halls with en suite rooms, right next to the university than older halls with one bathroom between loads of students 40 minutes away.

bigTillyMint · 20/10/2019 12:27

Crikey, it's mad to get them signed up for actual halls before they've even taken their Alevels - surely that's about getting bums on seats for the courses?
Thank god Bristol only opened accommodation after results with 3 preferences for halls, and Durham allocate them to a college and then the halls on arrival.

Witchend · 20/10/2019 13:56

Dd's college at Durham they could express some preference (quiet/non alcohol/allergy-not sure if any others) then they had a large amount of space to write about themselves. I'm not sure how much notice they took, as dd's flat seems fine, but not tailor made if that makes sense.
They only got to do it after A-levels, and all the rooms are basically the same layout so not a lot of choice.
Southampton guarantee everyone accommodation, so dd had to fill out accommodation choices in July. It was difficult, and so much is going to depend on your near neighbours. So did she go for the cheap stuff that everyone says is fairly grotty but close to lectures, or the medium stuff which is a distance but you get a free bus pass, or decide that an en-suite room is essential with the expense that comes with it?
For her, we decided to leave the real cheap stuff, as it wouldn't break her to pay a little bit more, but we felt there could be people for whom not getting the cheapest would be an issue. The top stuff we ignored too. So I think she ended up putting various medium level ones. I think she had to choose 5.

ArtieFufkinPolymerRecords · 20/10/2019 14:05

I seem to recall one of the Mumsnetters who was in this thread earlier on (when it was more about applying to university), had a DC who had taken a gap year but got a confirmed place at B'ham University. Despite being very quick off the mark in making accommodation choices, well ahead of the majority (and so in theory at an advantage), I'm sure the MNetter reported that they'd been allocated the most expensive halls, at nigh on £8K per annum.

Birmingham don't allocate accommodation on a first come first served basis, so that those taking exams in the summer are not disadvantaged, as long as they apply by the deadline date for guaranteed accommodation.
My son is in Oakley Court at Pritchatts Park, which was his 2nd or 3rd choice I think. His first choice was Tennis Courts in the Vale, which seems to be party central, but he's happy with his flat and gets on well with his, predominantly female, flatmates. There are 11 or 12 in the flat and there seem to be 3 or 4 flatmates that keep themselves to themselves more, but they are not awful or anything. The rooms are standard size i.e. just big enough, and the communal spaces are clean and modern and quite spacious.
He went for shared bathrooms when he realised that any extra £s he paid for en-suite would reduce the amount he had to spend elsewhere, because we are topping up his maintenance loan to equal the maximum loan, then he is paying the accommodation costs.

Jano69 · 20/10/2019 14:17

DS is at Durham but we have no experience of accommodation preferences. As Durham was his insurance choice, he didn't get a say and was simply allocated the last room available in the last college with space in it. However, despite all this, he's having the most fantastic time and made some great friends so it really is a lottery with a dash of luck.

justasking111 · 20/10/2019 14:41

DS has a unite flat in a modern so it is expensive but lovely. Unite has increased its turnover 25% in a couple of years for those interested in investments. Interestingly the Unite student canteen and bar are both more expensive than eating drinking elsewhere. The students go to weatherspoons he says.

Oh I also had a very interesting conversation at a social event. Someone who works for the student loan company. British and EU students are being tracked so their loans are repaid. But those who come from outside the EU have been known to grab the loan and vanish. The company does not have the reach the government did to track them down, so that money is gone in the wind. Which I suppose means they are going to find it from those they can track. I wonder how it will all pan out.

Dunlurking · 20/10/2019 15:18

@drinkingmorewine I missed your post! I’m sorry. Thanks for that - so it is going round. Glad to hear it was only a few days and that all is well now.

VanCleefArpels · 20/10/2019 16:13

@FannyCann the NTU accommodation situation/system was what put my DD off firming an unconditional offer! Their Offer holder day was AFTER the date for booking accommodation, which you could only participate in after firming the offer. Quite sensibly she wanted to find out a bit more about the course etc before she pushed the button, despite it being (on paper) the most interesting course for her. So we went to the offer holder day then later found out here and on FB that all the best accommodation was already gone 😳. So that was that.

Contrast with Kent where you could express 5 preferences as an offer holder, no need to firm, and allocation done after A level results on a first come first served basis (ie if you apply early you get more chance of getting one of your preferences). Again not exactly ideal but at least you get a sniff at something you’ve asked for.

FannyCann · 20/10/2019 16:30

Thank you @VanCleefArpels
The self serve booking system was sold as a great system at the open day but it rang alarm bells for me.
And as you say, offer holder days seem to come after the date for confirming accommodation requests or confirming acceptance.

DD is on a gap year, and has confirmed NTU so I'm just trying to find out as much as I can so we can be on the ball when the bookings open. It does seem likely to be a bun fight and I think it is rather a cop out for the uni to duck out of any of the bother of responsibility for allocation.

Is your DD going to Kent (Canterbury). We went to open day and offer holders day with DD1 and liked it very much though she went elsewhere in the end.

VanCleefArpels · 20/10/2019 17:00

@FannyCann yes she is, loving it (and I was delighted to see her course well above NTU in recent Times league tables hah!)

I remember reading last year that kids had gone to school on the relevant day fir booking at NTU and had logged in after morning assembly to find their preferred option already booked! Looks like you really have to be on the ball...

Benjispruce · 20/10/2019 17:18

DD has at long last responded to my 3 texts asking if she was any better, to say that she was feeling better. Why do they tell you immediately when ill and completely forget to tell us when better? This is one of those concepts that will not be learnt until they are parents themselves.

justasking111 · 20/10/2019 17:37

Ahh Benji. I know what you mean.

DS has messaged me "I am getting tooth pain" Ah rats. Well we discussed finding a dentist, flossing and even brush your teeth and floss. Spent 18 years chasing him. When I said brush floss and use corsodyl was asked "Will that work without going to the dentist" NO!! you will have to go to dentist. sheesh....

RedHelenB · 20/10/2019 17:42

Had a lovely weekend with dd2 and shes getting her stuff together to take back now. Bet she'll forget something but I'm visiting her at half term. She enjoyed my Sunday roast and she made pineapple upside down cake for pud. Wont be long till Christmas I suppose but it's been lovely having her home.

juicy0 · 20/10/2019 18:08

An update for those of you who kindly posted advice about migraines for my DD.
She says that the migraines she has had (2) have now been replaced by a constant low level headache. Each migraine lasted a day but on every other day for 3 weeks she's had a daily headache which is better in the morning, although still present, and either worsens or remains the same all day.
It's in one of two places; a band across the top of her head which feels like a vice or at the base of her head/neck. It's not debilitating like a migraine but it's constant so she's quite fed up.
She's going back to the gp this week but said they weren't that helpful.

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