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Oxbridge 2020

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GinWorksForMe · 02/05/2019 14:15

Is it too early for an Oxbridge 2020 thread? I'm feeling in need of some hand holding through this process...

DS1 is going to apply to Cambridge for Maths. Doesn't know yet whether to name a college or put in an open application, so any tips gratefully received. We have visited two (very different) colleges and been to a Maths Open Day. It's unlikely we're going to have the opportunity to visit many more colleges as their open days seem to be on Saturdays and DS1 has a paid job Saturdays and Sundays.

Anyone else applying for Oxbridge for 2020 entry and want to share the journey?

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Peaseblossom22 · 08/07/2019 11:27

I also don't Know why parents ask questions in these sessions. I liked the fact that at Oxford no parents were allowed into the lecture hall ( this was for English) until all the students were seated. Only then were the parents allowed in, do parents all at the back !

Durham was definitely the worst for parents asking questions.

On another note I was struck by how many homeless people were on the street in Oxford , there was a tent outside Trinity, with dirty sleeping bag etc which highlighted the contrast between the two sides of Oxford

OKBobble · 08/07/2019 11:32

Luckily the history stuff was run in the Exams Hall huge. We hung aroubd in the corridor and DS went in with friends. Then when it was clear all students had places we went in and sat at the back to listen. It was really interesting the variety of questions (and how the parents' ones did seem to be prefaced with a my daughter/my son as if they/we would be spectacularly impressed - they didn't seem to be nor were we! In fact there was a fair amount of eyerolling at the performance parents! You could even see the tutors side glance each other).

Peaseblossom22 · 08/07/2019 11:32

The worst for whole families was definately York , several people with pushchairs and even several dogs ?! At the welcome talk they were asking people to move up and I was considering leaving and letting a potential student in but ds pointed out that less than half the people queuing were students most were parents and siblings some under 10. I could understand being say a year 10 or 11 teenager but not little ones or what looked like grandparents in one case.

Arewedone · 08/07/2019 16:52

notenough thank you ever so much re LSE. DS school has an incredible Oxbridge success rate so we have concluded they want to keep the stats high. Hardly any/ if any go on to LSE. DS has discounted St Andrews as he wants to stay within a decent range of London. We hadn’t looked at UCL, again his school dismissed it, but we have done so on your recommendation. I think LSE may outweigh his Oxford yearning —but of course it has nothing to do with the fact we have an apartment we currently rent out —

Arewedone · 08/07/2019 16:53

Shockthe strike through failed Blush

Arewedone · 08/07/2019 16:55

Agree with everyone at the surprise at how many homeless/ alcoholics in shop doorways in Oxford

goodbyestranger · 08/07/2019 19:23

It's not surprising though. Oxford has an affluent, liberal population in the centre of the city and is in the warmer part of the country. When I lived in California there was a large homeless population in the towns on the coast near LA for the same reason - although rather more brutally treated by the local police in my experience.

PantTwizzler · 08/07/2019 19:40

DS got his predicted grades today (4 x A*) so I’m feeling so happy for him. Obviously there’s a long way to go still but having those predictions in the bag is a great boost for him. I can’t brag IRL so I hope you understand!

sandybayley · 08/07/2019 20:52

@PantTwizzler - week done your DS. DS1 also has a 4 x A* prediction and the only people I've been able to tell IRL are my in laws. It's a shame but it is what it is. They've worked hard and deserve praise.

It's just one hurdle but as I've said to DS1 he doesn't actually need to get those grades. If he did get an Oxford offer it's most likely only 1 A* that he needs. Same for Durham as well.

sandybayley · 08/07/2019 20:53

Damn MN - turns stars into bold.

PantTwizzler · 08/07/2019 20:58

Thanks sandy! Well done to your DS as well. All to play for now.

Localher0 · 08/07/2019 22:29

Does anyone have any insight into learning support at Oxford? My DS is dyspraxic; a laptop user in all lessons and has 25% extra time in exams. I didn't go with him to the open day last week but my impression is that the tutorial system and low number of contact hours would mean that he won't be very supported. He's interested in reading History.
Thanks!

goodbyestranger · 08/07/2019 22:34

DD also get her predictions confirmed today, also full A - though she's only taking three. The latest admissions statistics on p4 show how many get three or more A.

www.ox.ac.uk/sites/files/oxford/Admissions%20Report%202019.pdf

The Open Day was useful for DD who's now completed her UCAS form less the personal statement - but I think she'll keep that fairly simple. I've warned her to keep miles away from TSR samples or similar.

goodbyestranger · 08/07/2019 22:36

Got not get!

PantTwizzler · 08/07/2019 23:48

@Localher0 www.ox.ac.uk/media/global/wwwoxacuk/localsites/studentgateway/documents/disabilityadvisoryservice/2011_Accessing_support_for_dyslexia,_dyspraxia_and_other_SpLDs.pdf

I asked about this at the open day for DS. The tutor said about half the engineering students are dyslexic.

PantTwizzler · 08/07/2019 23:51

That’s amazing that she’s already done UCAS goodbye. My DS is going to be last minute dot com like my DD I fear.

ErrolTheDragon · 09/07/2019 00:02

I really don't know why parents have to monopolize the question sessions

When DD went to the Cambridge open day, they weren't letting anyone other than prospective students into the subject talks for engineering. Apparently a few parents (not DH!) were rather taken aback by that. Apart from sheer numbers it sounds like a sensible anti-helicopter tactic.

Damn MN - turns stars into bold.

The appearance can vary depending on platform. You will probably get used to parsing the bolding - but 'three Astars and a A ' or whatever can make for easier reading.Grin

goodbyestranger · 09/07/2019 07:32

My DC quite often commented on how many of their class got extra time for exams and were surprised by it but then they came from a school where very few seemed to have extra time (one DS only got a spLD which was quite severe picked up in sixth form, too late to help either GCSEs or even A levels).

Pant Twizzler DD is miles ahead of where her siblings were on the UCAS thing but doesn't want to have it getting in the way of the summer.

KingscoteStaff · 09/07/2019 08:01

Can I join?

DS still in agonies deciding between straight Philosophy at Cambridge and Philosophy and Theology at Oxford (Oxford don't do straight Philosophy, Cambridge don't do PhilTh...).

He unhelpfully likes both courses and both cities and has one Philosophy teacher pushing one way and one the other.

sandybayley · 09/07/2019 08:10

Hi @KingscoteStaff - our destinies seem to be entwined. Glad your DS is thriving!

DS1 is going for Chemistry at Oxford. He's off to Manchester today for a Headstart 4 day summer school. Good prep for the future, getting to Manchester on his own from London and living in a student flat for a few days.

goodbyestranger · 09/07/2019 08:35

By which I meant how many people in their Oxford History class - that post was very unclear!

Kingscote difficult choice. Doesn't he have even a slight preference for place? I'm glad that none of mine have ever gone for Cambridge because the journey is a pest, so I'm very pleased when they seem to prefer the vibe in Oxford. Not suggesting you push the one which is geographically easier for you but ....

goodbyestranger · 09/07/2019 09:17

Further to my comment about expense and open days and skewed perceptions, this from the BBC this morning:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-48711619

ErrolTheDragon · 09/07/2019 09:18

Is he tending towards Phil or PhilTh (do they call it that? Grin) for his other 4 choices, kingscote? Maybe thinking about that would shed light on which of Oxford or Cambridge to choose.
Starting to rough out his personal statement might also help him think about what he wants to do and why. Although it's early yet, there's no harm in having a bit of a think about it, especially as there's time now to do more reading etc.

Needmoresleep · 09/07/2019 11:16

Arewedone, UCL is very worth looking at as an alternative across a range of subjects.

There are advantages in a University which is not solely focussed on science or social science, and it has a strong reputation pretty much across the board (it is comes 8th in the research orientated QS world rankings). It also offers some interesting degrees, like Liberal Arts with scope to have a science or social science major, PPE, a very well regarded management course, and an economics course that is similar in status to LSE/Cambridge. The big big attraction of UCL is the ability to have a year abroad including at some very good US Universities. They have been building a lot of accommodation and, I understand, a second campus at Stratford in the Olympic Park (great if/when Cross Rail ever opens).

The other good thing about London is that just about everyone passes through at some point. We went to a talk by Joseph Stiglitz last week, with plenty of students in the audience, the LSE has a really good series of public lectures, international banks send along their Chief Economists to give quasi recruitment breakfast talks, and so on.

The approach your son's school is using sounds strange. DS' school sent coach loads to Oxbridge which meant that at least equal numbers were rejected. It was also recognised that some subjects (NatSci, Law, economics/E&M/PPE) were really competitive and decisions were made on fine margins. Pupils/parents were therefore encouraged to focus on a wider range of courses/Universities, or plan for a gap year and reapplication. London was generally seen as academically on the same level (Imperial, say, offers the advantage of greater specialisation) but obviously with a different student experience, so by far the most commonly chosen UK alternative.

Do PM if you have any specific questions, which I will happily pass onto my son.