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How do A level grades affect Class of Degree?

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catslife · 04/09/2017 16:21

There are loads of threads about GCSE and A level grades needed for university but cannot find any information that answers my question.
Would a university student with a grade A (or A*) at A level achieve a better class of degree to one who had a grade B (or possibly grade C). This would be for an "arts" subject if that makes a difference.
Trying to work out if B/C at A level is a suitable level to make it worth applying for unis. If a child does better than this can they make a late application/ go through clearing if they haven't already applied?
Any answers and thoughts welcome.

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goodbyestranger · 07/09/2017 21:25

Yes it must help if that's the life you want for yourself. I was always keen to do the court run as a trainee so that I could duck off early to swim and also went out far too late far too often so went into work far too often with my head singing. I think I must have known subconsciously that heavy duty contract work wasn't for me. It's a shame that one gets railroaded down that line if one's competitive - far too many not well suited to that type of law and then want out. I was asked to reconsider when I left - I'm still amazed they didn't see how incredibly incompetent I was.

Anatidae · 08/09/2017 11:45

you only need to be smarter than the average bear.Thereafter, different skills are more valuable.

I agree completely with this.

There are a few roles (not professions per se) where you need serious intellectual muscle - ironically these tend to be not that great paying, I'm thinking of fields medal winners, astrophysicists etc.

But most 'professions' (medicine, law, science, engineering) do not require genius level intellect. They require you to be smart enough but then other skills dictate how well you do. And those skills often come down to persistence, doggedness, resilience and reliability. Along with being able to work with other humans (whether you enjoy it or not.) you don't need to be an extrovert party animal to be a good people person. Apparently I'm good at it despite (or possible even because) I'm introverted and don't need people.

Medics are generalists, and again, you need to be smart enough, but you don't need to be a genius. You need good information retention/recall and you need a certain set of skills and personality traits - calmness, doggedness, stamina, ability to deal with people who are often frightened and in pain (the classic bedside manner.)

Addley · 08/09/2017 13:04

LRD, you're scaring me a bit Grin Am about to start an English degree, but just spent two years having to write Access essays where conclusions basically concur with intros but with a little more detail and a recap saying, altho this that and the other argument I mentioned would suggest otherwise, broadly, intro is correct because (whatever points I made).

LRDtheFeministDragon · 08/09/2017 19:59

Oh, no, don't be scared! Sorry.

You need to learn that structure to start with. It is taught pre-degree for a reason. Everyone learns it.

It's just that you also need to learn to adapt and modify it when you do your degree.

In the same way, when you do a postgrad, you're suddenly told, 'you know that wonderful thing you did last year that you were praised for? Well, actually ...'.

And I still get this now. I just got comments back for a journal article, where the editor's basic point is that what I'm doing is just a bit too basic and I need to change my style. And I was so damn proud of my style when I wrote it! Grin

The basic point is that you have to be able to interrogate your work and adapt.

Addley · 08/09/2017 20:06

😂😂😂 Well my DoS just told me I'll be writing 2-3 essays a week so I suppose I'll get plenty of practice…

That damned editor AngryGrin

LRDtheFeministDragon · 08/09/2017 20:21

You will! And you'll be awesome. Smile

(And yes, I'm preparing a voodoo doll for the editor as we speak Wink)

Addley · 08/09/2017 20:49

These people lied to me tho :(

Open day: "it's quite full on, you'll likely have to write an essay every week"
Interview: "how do you feel about the workload? You'll probably need to write a couple of essays a week"
September: "you'll write 2 or 3 essays a week"

…

Anyway, here's hoping A level grades don't predict degree outcomes cause I dropped out of A levels twice and still don't have any Grin

LineysRun · 08/09/2017 20:58

Look, every correlation has plenty of outliers. Smile

Hi LTD, I have been trying to perfect this modern 'blog style' writing - ie succinct!

LineysRun · 08/09/2017 20:59

LRD ffs

CPtart · 08/09/2017 21:06

I got B, C,C, E (years ago) and then a first class honours degree in an unrelated subject.

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