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JuliaMumsnet · 09/06/2021 17:07

Stephanie Hilborne

CEO at Women in Sport

Earlier this year, Women in Sport released first a report on the impact of the pandemic on teenage girls' sports and exercise and later launched a campaign on the menopause and sports. We asked CEO Stephanie Hilborne to tell us more about these issues and Women in Sport more widely:

"When someone says the word "sport" what’s the first thing you think of?

For me, it is gazing longingly out of the window at the netball courts during French class. But our charity Women in Sport knows that for many women the opposite is true. "Sport" brings back horrible memories of school. Whether it was being forced to wear “gym knickers” or a leotard when you were on a period or never getting picked for the team because you weren’t “sporty”.

And yet the word sport means “being carried away from stress and responsibility”. It’s about having fun. I don’t know many women who would reject the idea of less responsibility and more freedom.

Now think about exercise. What do you first think about when someone says the word “exercise”? Many women we talk to wince because they think they should be doing more of it. For others, serious exercise conjures up pain and suffering. But when we actually get around to going out for a brisk walk or even a run, we feel great. Our bodies release endorphins when we exercise, which is the healthiest way to get high.

Women in Sport has been looking into the lives of teenage girls and women during the last year and finding out how lockdown has affected women’s experiences of, and views on, exercise and sport. Before the pandemic, Sport England statistics showed that the gap was closing but women were still slightly less active than men overall.

The biggest gender gap was in team sport – with 25% fewer girls than boys involved in teams and paltry opportunities for girls at school. That’s why the closure of schools affected boys’ sports the worst.

Why should we care about team sport? Because being in joint endeavour, in a team, trying to win while having fun brings lifelong benefits. If more girls had positive experiences of team sport at school, more women would enter the workplace and wider society trained to lead, to take risks, and to be resilient if they lose.

So, what did we find out about girls in lockdown? During the pandemic, the Government put exercise front and centre as one of the few ways we were able to leave our homes. This opportunity has released some girls into new worlds. We talked to teenage girls going for walks outside with friends for the first time, and 82% of girls said they would put more effort into being active when life returned to normal. Teenage girls we spoke to recognised the value of exercise for their physical and mental health, some for the very first time. They may not know that research shows a positive impact of outdoor sport on body image, but they are feeling it.

Then we spoke to the women. We know that women have borne the brunt of pandemic redundancies and that home-schooling has exposed ongoing stereotypes and gender inequalities in the home. The women we spoke to were time deprived. 32% of women said they could not prioritise exercise during lockdown as they had too much to do for others. But on the positive side, the crisis has led people to reappraise. People have been resetting their priorities and there is more motivation to exercise than there used to be. 85% of women in our research said they would either put more effort into being fit and active or would keep up being active after lockdown.

Our recent new research into women around the menopause showed that this too can prompt reappraisal. So, the double whammy of an unprecedented pandemic and an unprecedented change in hormones seems to be triggering a bit of a revolution amongst midlife women.

One of the most fascinating insights we gleaned even before the pandemic was how much teenage girls cherished time alone with their mum or mother figures in their lives. They saw such relationships as ‘safe spaces’ without fear of judgement. Lockdown has exaggerated this feeling and girls have appreciated time being active outside, in nature, in a safe context without toxic commentary from peers.

Last year we launched our #TimeTogether campaign based on our understanding that midlife women and teenage girls both face unique physical challenges and pressures, and that they want to support one another. Women and girls also know they ought to be more active, but many find it hard to act on that. So, we’re inspiring women and girls to team up, to get active and have fun together outside. As we go back to some normality post lockdown, this special relationship may well help overcome shared concerns about loss of fitness or being in large groups.

The pandemic has led to a growing intolerance of inequality, whether racial, economic, or gender inequality. At Women in Sport, we’ve been intolerant of this for a long time. We know that less wealthy women from certain diverse backgrounds are the least active of all. How wrong is this, that society is denying these girls and women joy and health?

The pandemic exposed underlying inequalities in society across the board, and elite sport was no exception. In August 2020 a BBC survey of elite British sportswomen showed 86% earnt less than £30k from sport, and 60% less than £10k and one in five believed they may have to give up their sport due to the crisis to focus on having a normal job. At the same time women’s sport all but disappeared from our screens. The women’s football Euros were pushed back to 2022 to make way for the men’s Euros to be played in 2021. The Women’s Six Nations was never completed, the 2020 Netball Super League, Football Women’s Super League and Championship were all cancelled. In contrast, the top three tiers of men’s football continued their 2019-20 season; the men’s Premiership Rugby 2019-20 season restarted in August, the men’s Six Nations was completed.

So it is hardly surprising that half as many girls as boys dreamt about reaching the top of sport (30% cf 60%) in a survey we ran with Sports Direct in March 2021. We should not be denying our girls the chance to dream.

We want to redefine the relationship that many girls and women have with sport and exercise. This should be about fun, and we have a right to fun at every time in our lives. Yes, we could be drawing joy from sport, even as teenagers when everywhere you look people are commenting on your appearance; and even in mid-life when that pressure cooker of responsibility means our own needs come last. We want the legacy of the pandemic to be a break down in negative gender stereotypes and the emergence of a new normal in which all women and girls can experience the joy, fulfilment, and lifelong benefits of sport."

EDIT: Stephanie will be coming back onto the thread at 11am on Thursday 17th June to answer your questions.

Guest post: “All women and girls should be able to experience the joy, fulfilment, and lifelong benefits of sport”
Guest post: “All women and girls should be able to experience the joy, fulfilment, and lifelong benefits of sport”
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Mydogdoesntlisten · 10/06/2021 11:31

Totally agree with PomegranateQueen. I hated PE due to the clothing we were forced to wear, the changing rooms etc. etc.
I went to an all girls school too.
It put me off sport for life.
Let girls (and boys actually) wear clothes they feel comfortable in, and give them some choice over what sports are offered.

ChakaDakotaRegina · 10/06/2021 11:41

Thanks OP.
Have you any comments about facilities for women in sport? Women often seem to be expected to take second best in terms of facilities, equipment, time slots, coaches etc and fit their activities around what suits men. Or to use equipment designed for men. This isn’t great for morale.

Have you any comments on intimidation from men (women runners often report being heckled or jeered at etc. Mixed sex teams sometimes see women being sidelined)?

CarolinaInMyMind · 10/06/2021 11:48

Thanks for this post Stephanie, it resonated with me Flowers

It also brought up feelings of anger and frustration.

I get a high from sports that I don't get anywhere else and feel more confident and physically capable afterwards. I used to love running, judo and playing football but stopped when I was 9.

In judo, boys instead of fighting me would try to take the judo suit off me. In football I was treated so differently - certain boys seemed disgusted and angry I was there but mostly they all just didn't really include me - and I remember in both sports eventually just feeling so painfully self-conscious and excluded that I stopped going, and have regretted it and missed it ever since.

I've started going later in life but get frustrated at my lack of skill and still feel self-conscious - although this has started getting better as I improve!

For context, I'm 29.

I think professional sports is really key here - I've started watching women's football and my confidence and motivation shoots through the roof afterwards.

LateAtTate · 10/06/2021 12:03

@lottiegarbanzo that’s an interesting observation.
Building on that I’d also like to emphasise the purpose of sport. A lot of men relax by doing some competitive activity. Video games, football whatever. They seem to need that dopamine bit of fighting and winning.
Women however relax by having a chat with people or working out alone. After spending all day at work competing with people - why would I go to another competitive thing to relax? It just doesn’t make sense.

To be honest with the OP a though less women into a certain sport means less funding. So if you’re an aspiring female footballer and not many women like it you get less money, which sucks for you. But if we gave more money to sports that women did enjoy (ones that can also be done individually) we’d still see a lot of women in sports. Just not the same sports as men. And that’s absolutely fine IMO

Beamur · 10/06/2021 12:18

I'm really pleased to see this being discussed and think there's probably a huge amount more that could be said than the space allows.
One thing I would really hope to see is women in sport being looked at with only a light comparison to men in sports. You won't make more women participate in aping what works for men.
I also think that the focus on team sports in the way they are delivered at school is wrong. Few girls enjoy team sports and it is rife with peer bullying rather than healthy competition. Leadership skills can come from so many other avenues - including non team sports.
Overall though I am really pleased this is being given consideration and hopefully funding and time.

WarriorN · 10/06/2021 12:29

@LateAtTate

Also not to mention martial arts!

This needs to be on the curriculum!

BiBabbles · 10/06/2021 12:54

Girls and women should be able to experience the joy and fulfillment and lifelong benefits of physical activity. That may or may not include sports at all, let alone team sports.

I agree with lottiegarbanzo -- we really don't need to be using guys as the default or making weak correlations to men's status in the world with more men being in team sports. I don't think it helps girls to do so or to put one type of physical training above the rest. We also need to consider safeguarding with recent issues around the world as CookieMonsterMunch and others mentioned.

As Merchymor said, that there needs to be more recognition on how puberty how we move and how girls change in how they want to be active. Alongside the issues of attire for girls, I read an athletics training documents from the US which went in detail on how girls basically need to be retaught how to run and do other activities as their centre of gravity changes significantly more than their male peers, but this often gets ignored which is why girl athletes are at higher risk of training injuries. I went through this - after years of dance and cheerleading I was put in to make me more a team player and girly, I ended up with a damaged knee and shoulders in my early teens. There have been lessons learned on overtraining, but not on sex-specific needs in training children through puberty. I got better training in how to care for my joints doing lifting and wrestling though it was mainly a male pursuit and I think I, and many other, benefitted from having a sport where we competed individually, but we trained as a team, we took on the wins and losses of each other as a team even when we weren't directly involved, and having to put our best forward as we couldn't hide behind anyone else win or lose, and we could focus on just beating our own personal best. That has benefits too.

Yes, for many people jumping into serious exercise can result in pain and suffering. What is the benefit in ignoring that potential risk to talk about the potential benefit of 'the healthiest high' especially when this is aimed at getting less active people more active? Reconditioning is mostly recognized for injuries and disabilities, it also needs to be recognized when people have been deconditioned through lifestyle. Not everyone gets runner's high, not everyone is suited for that type of cardio especially to start with, and there are other methods of reconditioning (reclined cardio and gentle strength training usually being a recommended starting point). We have posts from women who feel guilty because jumping into running or dance-based workout classes as 'it's not that hard' but they're getting sick and/or hurt and I think if reconditioning was taken more seriously and spoken about more broadly rather than pushing that 'high' or how it's really a lot easier than we think, fewer people would feel that they're too broken to be physically active. It's really demoralizing to be told that it's going to be fun once you get used to it and it's not getting more fun or easier for you.

My DDs' school is getting a new sports hall this autumn - and the thing that excited my DDs is that it will have trampolining and a fitness studio. Each week, PE has been the worst class for them, but new options has got their interest again. It reminded me of a post on here discussing PE where someone talked about how they liked PE once group yoga and fitness was an option and others agreed that more options beyond group sports would have made it less torturous. I do think children should be given a wide range of options, and it's great when there are options for the whole community that parents can participate in with their children, but that includes way more than the traditional team sports. We have so many options, why not encourage wider exploration rather than pushing girls to match boys (many of which also aren't that big into team sports).

BatshitCrazyWoman · 10/06/2021 12:57

@Wearywithteens

PE (ie. competitive sport) was the bane of my school life and made me utterly miserable (despite being an active outdoorsy little girl). It blighted my life because I didn’t comprehend the need to competitively chase a stupid ball.

When I was given a choice to do dance as a PE option in my very last year, I realised what a complete waste those years had been for all the non-competitive kids, fat kids, weak kids etc and how we’d been cruelly robbed of the opportunity for exercise and fun. I would rather have walked for an hour than be forced to play netball with red-mist-eyed teammates.

I applaud your initiative but you must first recognise the need for activity that chimes with many young girls, not the naturally ‘sporty’ ones. And you’ll have to address, sooner or later, for your own credibility, the pernicious erosion of female sport on the gender identity arena.

This is me, right down to switching to dance.

I hate sport, I'm not competitive at all. I'm slim and fit at 57 (weights, HIIT and lots of walking for my job), I don't see the need for me to do sport?

PiccalilliChilli · 10/06/2021 13:00

Didn't read the OP it was a bit long.

Agree with other people: I'm one of those women who couldn't see the point of team sports and competition. I was and am introverted so I hated contact sports. I didn't see the point in putting in all that effort for a little trophy! My teenage daughter is the same, she walks and runs for miles but hates PE, not interested at all she in competition.

If PE was more focused on exercise, diet, meditation and feeling good rather than competition (plus, schools not insisting on revealing PE kits) Ithink more people would take an interest.

murbblurb · 10/06/2021 13:06

Read an interview - this woman was really good at the running about and throwing things sports at school, and so will have no experience of how shit 'team' sports are if you aren't good at them or don't enjoy them. I've worked with those who were good at school sport, they just don't get that there is a problem.

Sometimesfraught82 · 10/06/2021 13:10

@Mydogdoesntlisten

Totally agree with PomegranateQueen. I hated PE due to the clothing we were forced to wear, the changing rooms etc. etc. I went to an all girls school too. It put me off sport for life. Let girls (and boys actually) wear clothes they feel comfortable in, and give them some choice over what sports are offered.
I am firm belief that having a uniform is an equaliser amongst pupils.

Otherwise you get those able to afford it in branded sports gear. And those not able to, in Tesco own brand.

PiccalilliChilli · 10/06/2021 13:25

@BiBabbles My daughter would love trampolining!

Once, only once, did she do Yoga and really enjoyed it, but her school says yoga is for Y10 and up only, which baffles me. She's done a bit of aerobics too, which she liked, but again school only offered it as a one-off. We need more of these types of activities in schools.

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 10/06/2021 13:42

I think my school must have been particularly good at PE... We had trampolining, gymnastics, volleyball, self defense, basketball, dance, rounders, athletics, hockey, netball, rugby, tennis... All sorts on a rotation. Then in sixth form we could chose to help with PE at a local primary school instead. (Or there was a gym!)

The biggest issue was getting all hot and sweaty, then having five minutes to get changed at the end of the lesson.

Umbra · 10/06/2021 14:01

@LateAtTate

'Women however relax by having a chat with people or working out alone. After spending all day at work competing with people - why would I go to another competitive thing to relax? It just doesn’t make sense.'

I have to disagree with that. Chatting doesn't relax me, gaming (competitive, or not) does. Not all women are the same.

LateAtTate · 10/06/2021 14:15

@Umbra that’s a good point. But here we’re talking about what the majority seem to like to do
Happy to be corrected if most women do indeed like competitive sports (and competitive things) and the reason they’re not doing it in large numbers is because men are being mean and not because they don’t really like it

You do have a point though even in jobs people think women are not competitive. I am personally but because I like money to outsource my responsibilities 😎

Mabelene · 10/06/2021 14:22

I loathe sport with a passion. I loathed it at school and I loathe it now. Please don’t speak for me

dameofdilemma · 10/06/2021 14:35

The lack of organised physical activity on offer for girls from a young age is astounding and it only gets worse as they get older.

Gymnastics/dance dominate - but not all girls feel comfortable in the figure hugging lycra this often involves. These are sports than can (not necessarily but can) promote a negative body image.

Many girls show an interest in football/rugby - but are too often competing in mixed teams with boys (single sex football or rugby teams are still scarce). Boys are often bigger and often deliberately exclude them.

Even going for run is fraught with the possibility of cat calls and intimidation (I run most days and can tell you its rife).

So if we want girls to spend less time on their phones and more time being physically active, with all the health benefits that brings, we need better provision of more varied sport - and that can be any organised physical activity, doesn't have to be competitive or involve a ball.

And it needs to be on offer for all - not just those who attend private schools.

viques · 10/06/2021 15:15

@EishetChayil

What happens when "women's sport" actually includes males? Are you worried that girls will be discouraged from pursuing a sport when they see men like "Lauren" Hubbard stealing titles from women?
Not just titles. Cheats like Hubbard also steal:

Financial support from local and National bodies

Training support from local and National bodies

Places on elite training squads

Opportunities to compete in local, national and international events.

Sponsorship deals

Future earning opportunities

National , International , World and Olympic record recognition for individuals.

Realistic goals for National, International, World and Olympic records for all future female athletes.

So Stephanie Hilborne , are you prepared to rename your organisation Second Rate Men in Sport? Because unless organisations like yours make a HUGE non compromising noise about how many sports organisations hungry for medals and silverware are sneaking transwomen and people with DSD into women’s sports then that is what is going to happen in the next few decades.

MissChanandlerBong90 · 10/06/2021 15:29

Not saying anything new here - but just saying that like many PP, my experience of PE/games at school was that it was a twice weekly torture and humiliation. I was at school 15-25 years ago, so perhaps things have changed. But it was terrible. Changing in front of a room full of your peers, being forced to wear things that expose parts of your body you’re deeply uncomfortable with, the relentless obsession with team sports, the utter humiliation if you weren’t very good at them, the assumption everyone knew the rules, the exclusion of anyone who wasn't ‘sporty’ - horrendous.

There was no emphasis whatsoever on exercise for the enjoyment of it. Just a relentless obsession with ‘team sports’.

As an adult I’ve discovered running, hiking, yoga, Pilates, swimming and badminton. I find them all very enjoyable. None of those were on offer at school, with the exception of running - but even then, only racing. Never running for the enjoyment of running.

Ihaventgottimeforthis · 10/06/2021 15:33

I think we need to widen the types of activities available and do all we can to make sports & activities more welcoming & inclusive - cracking down on abusive behaviour & discrimination.
And within that inclusivity, create safe activities & spaces for women & girls. I'm a volunteer leader for a women-only cycling group, for females who want to take up recreational cycling for fun & fitness in a safe & non-hostile environment. British Cycling however would not endorse a single-sex provision, so it really affects what we can do. We need single sex provision.
I also play mixed sex sports - rowing & touch rugby - there are lots of social benefits to inclusive activities, and it helps us widen provision. But we need to make sure we increase choice, not restrict it.
The incredible rise of outdoor swimming recreation, dominated by women, just goes to show there is a huge demand for physical activity opportunity which we need to support - it might just not be when or what we expect.
Sport provision in schools is shit & drives girls away - today's reports on the levels of sexual harassment in schools gives a lot of insight into why.

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beepbeepbonk · 10/06/2021 16:39

I've done the same sport since I was in pre-school, but I've never had any ambition to ply professionally, it's an all encompassing hobby and now my daughter does it too (equestrianism).

Sometimesfraught82 · 10/06/2021 16:46

girls from a young age is astounding and it only gets worse as they get older.

Not at my daughter’s school!

Free football (boys pay!)
Gymnastics
Cricket
Swimming
Athletics
Non contact rugby

The only difference is that from year 7 boys do contact rugby.

I have NO issue with my daughter being precluded from this!!

Sometimesfraught82 · 10/06/2021 16:49

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Sometimesfraught82 · 10/06/2021 17:04

Ok I won’t quote the (utterly inoffensive post)

But I do remain curious why the OP has not engaged yet

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