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Guest post: "I didn't think of my prostitution as traumatic - but it left me with PTSD"

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LauraMumsnet · 08/12/2016 12:22

You don't expect to experience post-traumatic stress disorder if you don't really understand that you have suffered a trauma. When what you've experienced is normalised, the psychological after-effects may be attributed to something else, or ignored entirely. But trauma comes in many guises, and violence is not always obvious.

A poorly understood fact is that PTSD is more common in women than in men - and one of the most common causes of women's trauma is sexual violence. On the surface we accept that sexual coercion, for example, is negative, but we don't often discuss the severity of its effect on women.

I was in prostitution for 10 years - middle-class, indoor, 'acceptable' prostitution. I was never held at knife point, beaten or tied up; I never worked the streets. My life was regular hair appointments, expensive brandy in nice restaurants, and strip clubs for faux fun: the laissez-faire libertine.

Of course with many punters I had to hold my nose and hope they wouldn't take too long. These weren't just men I didn't find attractive, but men who actively repulsed me. But it was just the 'job'. When I entered prostitution, everyone just shrugged it off. You saw women resigned to what was happening to them, their lack of sexual agency - you spotted their tricks for shortening appointments, the little hits of booze or dope to get them through, and you learnt to do the same.

But then I just seemed to stop. When my 'clients' visited me I began to feel a hurl of nausea in my throat. I felt anxious everywhere I went - every week there was a new thing I could no longer do, a place I could no longer go, because of the panic it engendered. Meeting new people, public transport, shops, swimming, the cinema, everything became frightening. I was like a prey animal.

I was not intellectually opposed to prostitution; I was a modern, open-minded, liberal feminist. But, as I became more and more isolated and fragile I started to reach out to other women exited from the sex industry, reading their articles, talking with them on social media, and I found the same patterns, the same textures to their stories.

Like Sabrinna Valisce, "When the flashbacks happen I can be anywhere, around anyone. They're unpredictable and intrusive and leave me wanting to shower and sleep it away."

Or Diane Martin CBE, "A few months before and after I got out of prostitution, I started having what I now know are panic attacks and I lost the ability to speak. I just couldn't talk, no sound would come, I was shutting down."

PTSD is a risk in a number of professions, but these tend to be 'front-line' jobs: soldier, paramedic, firefighter. It's useful to have this point of reference when considering trauma as a result of prostitution. My 'benign' servicing of thousands of men's sexual wants has had repercussions that ordinarily befall those who have witnessed bodies burnt, bombed or disembowelled. There was no single scene of violence in my experience of prostitution though; the assault came from the layers of intrusion built up over time.

We don't understand the scope of trauma in women because sexual violence and coercion have historically been dismissed as just other, if controversial, forms of sexual possibility. If we are to better understand PTSD in women we need to start - seriously - rewriting this script.

It took me a long time to fully understand my symptoms; the irritability, the anger, the fear, the strange existential sense that life no longer had any purpose. It was difficult, because by making the connection between mental breakdown and prostitution, I had to face the fact that what I had been through had not been benign at all. Not all women in prostitution will suffer from PTSD, but many of us do; even in the most conservative findings, prostitutes are shown to be significantly more likely to suffer from PTSD than the general population. For us it is the site of our suffering and the cause of our enfeeblement. Only by confronting that, have I begun to heal.

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0phelia · 11/12/2016 12:55

Seeing as hoofwanking has stated having bipolar, drinking problems and fucking men that make her skin crawl, I am also embarrassed on Lass 's behalf for her comments.

Rae has put punters in the same category as abusers, yet somehow this isn't enough. You're all "glamourising" sex work....

Don't worry some ppl just like to shame those perceived to be beneath them.

Amandahugandkisses · 11/12/2016 12:58

Thank you so much for this post OP

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 11/12/2016 14:34

Hoof thinks her punters are simply lonely men and it is unfair to call them "monsters" (which was her word.).

Hoof had a lengthy post defending her punters and saying how most of them were lovely men who would be horrified if they thought they were harming her. In a later post she said her punters all treated her with respect and kindness. Perhaps she should have a look at the thread discussing whether bought consent is the same as rape.

I don't know what Hoof is expecting from this - sympathy for the fact being a prostitute is damaging but only on her terms which includes not criticising her lovely punters?

I said the punters are despicable and they are. If Hoof wants to defend of her punters , and in doing so defend men who are abusers, that is her choice.

Rae's position is quite different.

^Would you really call a man who is single and lonely who pays a fortune to wine, dine and have sex with a woman who claims to want nothing more than to have sex with him a monster? Because that is what high end escorts do. We made the men believe we loved the job.

It is very narrow minded to put all of these men, and women who seek out escorts in to the same group of "monsters".

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 11/12/2016 14:36

Ophelia it has nothing to do with thinking Hoof is beneath me. Hoof has been defending men who buy sex. They are not "monsters" just "lonely".

iminshock · 12/12/2016 00:22

Oh my goodness I am in awe at the honesty here.

But I still don't get it.
I've been proper stoney broke . No cash. No food.
You need to believe me.

But I never would have remedied the cash flow situation by taking £ off some random bloke in return for him
Sticking his Dick in me.

How did y'all go for that instead of getting a job in McDonalds ? ( that are always hiring. That's what I did. )

raestory · 12/12/2016 08:19

Because money is infrequently the sole motivation for those who get into prostitution; high numbers of women have drug and mental health problems, come from the care system, getting in to prostitution is an intersection between different social vulnerabilities. Organisations that want to legalize making a profit off of prostitutes like to focus on the economic arguments because then prostitution is just one job choice of a number, not an exploitative industry which depends on the layering of vulnerabilities of a small number of, usually, women, but also LGBT people.

0phelia · 12/12/2016 08:56

I find understanding the phenomenon of Compulsory Retraumatisation useful in analysing my own life-path....
Believe me I did try numerous times to do a regular job after leaving school, and leaving home.
I got the sack numerous times too.

It wasn't a snap decision. A PP above wrote "I've had sex with worse for free" and this reminds me exactly how I felt too. If you've experienced high promiscuity and felt bad about yourself, you do sort of think I may as well get paid for this.

Another factor is not having to wait untill the end if the week / month to get your cash. You get it instantly which is handy when you have a drug habit.

Anyway I've had lots of normal jobs but emotionally/mentally simply couldn't hold one down untill I was at least 26.

0phelia · 12/12/2016 09:12

NamechangedBecause
Sorry I grabbed a quote off u there without saying Hi.
I hope you don't take it up as a career for easy money because getting out is v hard with 1-2 years gap on your CV and CRB checks to worry about.
You can at least say you've been studying. Save your money. Get a 1st, then get a real job!

hoofwankingbunglecunt · 12/12/2016 10:58

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raestory · 12/12/2016 17:14

With the greatest of respect, those 'good experiences' and the positive feelings you get when you remember that time you got given a fair bit of money by a punter, are extremely materialistic and consumerist. I used to have some superficial fun in relation to the industry too and its financial gains too, but that innately came with the bad experiences - which were intrusive and repulsive and, in the end, traumatizing.

Shinny baubles and fancy places don't make up for health, contentment, safety, respect, personal boundaries, and political and personal consonance lost.

I think one of the major reasons this 'sex work is empowering' stuff has been allowed to flower, is because we increasingly, post the 80s, live in a society that worships material gains, narcissism and elitism, over the collective and civic ideas and ideals of mid 20th century political movements and the more honest personal and humanist examinations of the Modernist culture.

People openly say, those who promote 'sex work', that 'hay, PTSD is just something that happens in some occupations.' As well as 'but the money is good, better than waitressing'. Ergo, 'we should legitimize an activity that is structured around the sexual usage of some poor women for the gratification of some middle class men - despite the fact that it comes with a clear trend towards serious mental illness and social disenfranchisement - because the pay is good - and the hours flexible!'. Some bloody message.

raestory · 12/12/2016 17:18

I don't mean to attack you hoof, but your chasing of a certain kind of lifestyle seems to have cost you heavily on a personal level. And I certainly don't mean to be disrespectful because I've been there too. Its just frustrating that we aren't making the links between the 'good side and bad side' as it were.

And it also pisses me off that people like Tracy Quan and Brooke Magnanti have made money and careers off of selling this dangerous dream. I mean, its one thing glamourizing Hollywood, but Hollywood is off limits almost all people. Prostitution, for most women, is just a phone call away.

hoofwankingbunglecunt · 12/12/2016 18:01

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raestory · 12/12/2016 19:03

Nothing you said in the first paragraph disabuses me of any of the things I have said. With respect you were the one whose pointing out of good experiences culminated in telling the story of the punter who paid you 25k per week and who, I think, earlier on said one of the positives of prostitution were your ability to obtain treats. You haven't given any balance to prostitution which does not point, in some fashion, to the 'financial benefits', which are already a known quantity.

Added, you got into prostitution because you had a huge mortgage (I'm guessing you live in London?) and the huge (and growing) expense of accommodation in cities especially, is a direct result of post 80s neo-liberal socioeconomic policies - which I alluded to earlier - which both prioritize the acquisition of wealth whilst glorifying individual self interest, and consumption in order to accumulate resources into a smaller number of hands. You of course are not in any way to blame for the extortionate cost of your mortgage (unless of course you opted to pay for a very high mortgage where cheaper places were available in order to obtain 'prime property) but your need to meet that economic need, as it combines with your trauma, resulted in your prostitution. I'm not blaming you for the culture, basically, but I do think we are all affected by it to varying degrees.

Also, I am not saying you are glamourizing - I apologize I don't think I was clear - I think it is possible you, me, others like us have been affected by a glamourization of prostitution which has enabled us to over estimate what we see to be the positives of the industry.

I don't think we are necessarily disagreeing on our estimations of the industry, but I think you are presenting some of these socioeconomic elements as a form of compensation for the industry, whereas I am saying it they are key to its growth and its glorification.

hoofwankingbunglecunt · 12/12/2016 19:52

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raestory · 12/12/2016 21:28

So in order to maintain your lifestyle, you decided to do something that re-perpetuated personal difficulties. Again, that doesnt disprove my argument, you're just saying it makes it worth it.

And I'm saying the fact that you think that relates to the cultural conditions that I have delineated above.

raestory · 12/12/2016 21:30

In the end I decided my human happiness being eroded was not worth having a fancy house and financial 'comfort'

GenderRebel42 · 13/12/2016 02:08

@WorkingGirlJem

Maybe you are fine, maybe not. I think it's hard to evaluate your own mental health. If you can see a therapist regularly, I think that is the best thing (for everyone!).

I've seen plenty of people normalise situations like sex work or being in an abusive relationship. If you're with a partner who is abusive in more subtle ways than throwing a right cross to your face, you might not even see it as abusive. Sometimes your friends will though and they'll say he's a bad guy and you need to leave him but you say that you love him.

Maybe you've avoided the worst sort of abuses - being violently raped, beaten, assaulted, threatened, stalked, arrested, etc. - but I think what Rae Story is getting at is that it can build up over time even if you never end up having a violent client.

I think our bodies and minds know this is not normal, it sees this as trauma, even if we don't recognize the symptoms right away. If it's still fun for you, if it pays the bills, if you aren't winding up with violent clients, then maybe it's okay to keep going but I would talk to a therapist. You yourself might not recognize trauma signs until after you leave, as a sort of "normality" returns to life. Friends and family might be able to spot issues but they might be reluctant to say anything. Therapists are good at evaluating and being fairly objective.

People are complex. A lot of people have childhood history, history with abusive partners, homelessness -- there are many factors which might make some people able to withstand the stress of sex work better than others. I'm trans (& so are most sex workers I've know personally because we stick to our circles) and so there's a whole 'nother kettle of fish that opens up with regards to our mental health. But sex work is definitely a stressor and I think therapy can help a lot.

I wish the best to you!

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 13/12/2016 22:46

As much as it seems to annoy posters like Lass, I got to go to places and experience things that would never have been financially available to me

What annoys me is your defence of sexual abusers.

I agree with what the women behind Nordic Model Now say, including their refusal to validate prostitution by calling it "the sex industry" "sex worker" etc.

About Us – Nordic Model Now!
nordicmodelnow.org/about/

Psychomumsucks · 22/12/2016 15:12

lass you keep referring to men that pay for sex as abusers, quite a bold statement, where are the facts to back this up?

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 22/12/2016 18:33

As far as I'm concerned it is res ipsa loquitur.

No man who wishes to be considered as a decent human being pays for sex

raestory · 22/12/2016 22:04

To put it in simple terms:

It is well known many prostituted women don't want to have sex for money and many hate it.
Men who pay for sex don't known the particulars of the woman in question, other than she needs the money, and nothing else.
Ergo a man pays to use a woman's body for sexual gratification knowing there is a high chance she doesn't really want to, or perhaps even hates to.
He doesn't care, and is willing to put his penis, tongue, hands inside a person who just wants or needs the money, and can enjoy it.

What other facts are needed?

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 22/12/2016 22:50

Flowers Rae

Anonamom · 15/08/2017 08:59

My first time posting here, I was an escort myself there is nothing glamorous at all about it albeit if your in a five star hotel or a working the streets it's the same thing your there for.
I found myself up that creek without a paddle after 18yrs of marriage and saw an advert for escorts I met with the owners and they assured me my safety would be their utmost concern so after a long time weighed the pros and cons and to be honest I thought I ended up on their books.
I can't see how anybody thinks being an escort is glamorous to be honest it doesn't matter if you are in a five star hotel or walking the streets it's still prostitution just a different pay grade. Anyway I was "working" and to be fair it was mostly over and done with and I was out, but this one occasion I was pinned against the wall by my throat and threatened with a beating and was blocked from leaving the room this was by a man who was a solicitor it terrified me to bits my agency rang me I told them and he said charge extra for the time I was there it was the scariest moment ever if it wasnt for me giving him a good hard left hook on the jaw I don't think I would have got out without any damage I told the agency and as he was a regular and good client they would overlook it. I was more than traumatised and that was my last client Ive always been outgoing but I went into depression. Sooooo anyway I'm getting back to usual self but still Im still having trouble with detaching myself when it comes to sex that's what my councillor said anyway. That's the first time I've ever told anyone other than my councillor
Thanks for taking the time to read my post xxx

Tranquil9 · 12/01/2018 03:46

Brave women telling their stories - Full respect, support, no judgement.
The MeTwo campaign shows what came be achieved when men and women come together to change social attitudes.

Mature and brave men treat women well, are happy in their own skin.

Sometimes this means we cop abuse from other men who want to abuse women when we call them out for their behaviour... that's the price of INTEGRITY.
Princes William and Harry and fine examples of a men that support and respect women IMO.

April229 · 02/02/2018 08:37

Thanks for sharing such honest views of the situations you have been in. For someone who has not ever been in this line of work it’s really eye opening to hear such honest accounts. Generally I think perceptions of sex work is either grimy street walking prostitution or high class £2k per night on a private jet escort work.

Do you mind me asking, in the main what is the general day to day experience of this type of sex work? What type of men would use the service and for what purpose (sex obviously) but was it things that their partner didn’t want to do or just sex and go? What helped you make the decision to leave?