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Guest post: "I didn't think of my prostitution as traumatic - but it left me with PTSD"

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LauraMumsnet · 08/12/2016 12:22

You don't expect to experience post-traumatic stress disorder if you don't really understand that you have suffered a trauma. When what you've experienced is normalised, the psychological after-effects may be attributed to something else, or ignored entirely. But trauma comes in many guises, and violence is not always obvious.

A poorly understood fact is that PTSD is more common in women than in men - and one of the most common causes of women's trauma is sexual violence. On the surface we accept that sexual coercion, for example, is negative, but we don't often discuss the severity of its effect on women.

I was in prostitution for 10 years - middle-class, indoor, 'acceptable' prostitution. I was never held at knife point, beaten or tied up; I never worked the streets. My life was regular hair appointments, expensive brandy in nice restaurants, and strip clubs for faux fun: the laissez-faire libertine.

Of course with many punters I had to hold my nose and hope they wouldn't take too long. These weren't just men I didn't find attractive, but men who actively repulsed me. But it was just the 'job'. When I entered prostitution, everyone just shrugged it off. You saw women resigned to what was happening to them, their lack of sexual agency - you spotted their tricks for shortening appointments, the little hits of booze or dope to get them through, and you learnt to do the same.

But then I just seemed to stop. When my 'clients' visited me I began to feel a hurl of nausea in my throat. I felt anxious everywhere I went - every week there was a new thing I could no longer do, a place I could no longer go, because of the panic it engendered. Meeting new people, public transport, shops, swimming, the cinema, everything became frightening. I was like a prey animal.

I was not intellectually opposed to prostitution; I was a modern, open-minded, liberal feminist. But, as I became more and more isolated and fragile I started to reach out to other women exited from the sex industry, reading their articles, talking with them on social media, and I found the same patterns, the same textures to their stories.

Like Sabrinna Valisce, "When the flashbacks happen I can be anywhere, around anyone. They're unpredictable and intrusive and leave me wanting to shower and sleep it away."

Or Diane Martin CBE, "A few months before and after I got out of prostitution, I started having what I now know are panic attacks and I lost the ability to speak. I just couldn't talk, no sound would come, I was shutting down."

PTSD is a risk in a number of professions, but these tend to be 'front-line' jobs: soldier, paramedic, firefighter. It's useful to have this point of reference when considering trauma as a result of prostitution. My 'benign' servicing of thousands of men's sexual wants has had repercussions that ordinarily befall those who have witnessed bodies burnt, bombed or disembowelled. There was no single scene of violence in my experience of prostitution though; the assault came from the layers of intrusion built up over time.

We don't understand the scope of trauma in women because sexual violence and coercion have historically been dismissed as just other, if controversial, forms of sexual possibility. If we are to better understand PTSD in women we need to start - seriously - rewriting this script.

It took me a long time to fully understand my symptoms; the irritability, the anger, the fear, the strange existential sense that life no longer had any purpose. It was difficult, because by making the connection between mental breakdown and prostitution, I had to face the fact that what I had been through had not been benign at all. Not all women in prostitution will suffer from PTSD, but many of us do; even in the most conservative findings, prostitutes are shown to be significantly more likely to suffer from PTSD than the general population. For us it is the site of our suffering and the cause of our enfeeblement. Only by confronting that, have I begun to heal.

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hoofwankingbunglecunt · 10/12/2016 01:15

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LassWiTheDelicateAir · 10/12/2016 02:02

Would you really call a man who is single and lonely who pays a fortune to wine, dine and have sex with a woman who claims to want nothing more than to have sex with him a monster? Because that is what high end escorts do. We made the men believe we loved the job

I would despise him. And if I'm being honest I don't have a great deal of sympathy for women like you who collude in making prostitution acceptable.

0phelia · 10/12/2016 08:06

Ever the charmer, Lass.

Hoofwanking is right, though. If you went around moaning about the job to the establishment owner or your agent (if you have one) or complaining on your profile page about clients or whatever, you wouldn't get any work!
You focus the plusses of the job and shut out the negatives because it keeps you sane.

The thing about the punters being great men... I'm also aware most of them are married. Not so great for their wives. I mean yeah at the time they treat you well, show kindness and there's the posh wine etc... BUT you can't escape that they're only looking at you in one way, as something to fuck.

You definitely have to have "something" about you to be able to do the job, a mental strength (or maybe even a mental weakness?) I'd never recommend it to anyone.

Random God I'm so sorry you're still haunted by it.
It helps to talk...

Seachangeshell · 10/12/2016 08:14

lass I would certainly not judge hoof that harshly. I've never been a prostitute. I know very little about it, but what she says is very interesting. She makes it sound awful to be honest- not glamorous or acceptable at all. I just assume she knows more about it than me. And as for being nice about her clients- it sounds like she's still coming to terms with her experience to me.

AntiqueSinger · 10/12/2016 09:10

Raestory you started at 18??!!Shock I find that shocking ((hugs))Flowers If you have children you know that 18 is practically still a child. A more mature child, able to handle more responsibility, but still a child, and the brain is still undergoing developmental changes, especially if you tend to be developmentally young.

I was also sexually abused by my stepfather, and it didn't stop until I was 18, but interestingly, I didn't develop full PTSD until 3 years ago 22 years later. It was like dam burst in my brain. I experienced years of intermittent low mood and anxiety beforehand however. Luckily I got a bit of free therapy. But am going through a difficult time at university (a gift to myself, not sure it was wise) and the stress has reactivated some of the intrusive memories, and the panic, so I'm going to have to get some help from some where.

I sympathise with you RandomFlowers when I got a measly 18 weeks therapy on the NHS, I was a mess and started telling my DP about the memories, after a while he sat me down and said he cared, but he couldn't handle it, and he wasn't the person to talk to. I can imagine if my sexual abuse issues had been due to prostitution, his reaction would have been a lot worse. He was angry at my SF (who is no longer in the country) but in a different scenario, I've no doubt he would also been angry at me. So I've kept my current difficulties under wraps. Sometimes he wants oral, and it's all I can do not to show I want to be sick. I get this reaction to a man I love. At the moment I'm avoiding. I'd love to talk, but he can't deal, and it's not the sort of thing you want to tell someone anyway is it?!

What I find awful is that apparently a lot of prostitutes have experienced CSA!! Then before working through the massive mental and emotional issues, they get involved in a sexually exploitative 'occupation'.

Flowers to all the ex-prostitutes on this thread that are suffering. Please don't be tempted to go back.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 10/12/2016 09:19

Oh I do judge the "high class escorts" who always appear on these threads. I think of the number of times I see women criticised on here for "internalised misogyny " or being "handmaidens" and as far as I'm concerned the "high class escorts" are as bad an example as you can get.

If "escorts" are as charming, witty, attractive etc as to command that sort of money they claim they get I suspect other work could be found rather than peddling the idea to their punters that women enjoy being bought for sex. After all the vast majority of women no matter what their circumstances find work and don't start turning tricks.

And Ophelia, it is not a job.

iminshock · 10/12/2016 09:47

Rae you write so well. I am very moved by your story.

iminshock · 10/12/2016 10:04

Can I please ask those of you who have worked as prostitutes how you started ?

I really mean how did you mentally jump the first hurdle of letting a man pay you for sex ?

And what was it like the first time. ?

klassykringle · 10/12/2016 10:10

Antique, I don't know how others feel, and I'm sorry if this comes across the wrong way - but actually I'm a bit cross at your husband's reactions on your behalf.

I really think that we should be able to share our deepest selves and troubles with our other halves, and at the very least show consideration for which sex acts they're happy with performing. His behaviour hasn't been supportive to you and that sucks.

Sorry to everyone on this thread (and beyond) who's suffered Flowers

Italiangreyhound · 10/12/2016 11:04

Antique Thanks

0phelia · 10/12/2016 11:30

Antique I am also really sad on your behalf that you couldn't share with your DP and your trauma is holding it's influence in your relationship. Free NHS mental health is totally ineffective IME. (For the most part they fob you off onto CBT but don't offer real counselling). Flowers

iminshock
I probably fit a typical profile of someone entering prostitution. Gave my first blowjob aged 5, at home...
Did badly at school, had limited prosects and found myself working in a massage parlour aged 17. Coming out with £hundreds at that stage in my life was a rush. I loved the other girls i worked with and we bonded, shared jokes about the clients, it was like finding my family. They were all local girls and 1 or 2 I knew already from town.

The actual first job I remember being v nervous and awkward but the guy sort of told me what to do and it was easy. I mean this was back in the 90's.
There are a LOT more foreign WGs on the scene now and if I were entering an establishment now (at that age) I'd probably not earn as much and It'd all be far more lonely and intimidating.
I have left the industry for years at a time doing lots of other stuff but went back to it temporarily.

NameChangedBecause · 10/12/2016 11:34

Really interesting thread.
Name changed,

Iminshock- I only started about 4 months ago, but I work at least an hours distance away from home, only once a week and stop working at 4 people in a day, or £500 profit, whichever is most.

Can I please ask those of you who have worked as prostitutes how you started ? - I have webcammed on and off since being 18, so five years. I got greedy and want the bigger money faster - how else can I earn a week and half wages in less than a days work?

I really mean how did you mentally jump the first hurdle of letting a man pay you for sex? Mentally, I just saw it at quick easy money and I'd never have to see him again.. I've had sex with worse for free. Blush

And what was it like the first time. ? Awkward at first, but I put on an act, had sex three times with a guy in his late sixties, he said how amazing I was and I left after two hours with my £600, It would have taken me two weeks to earn that.

The money is addictive- I guess. But I limit myself to one day as I'm also a student, and as much as I'd love the earnings of full time escorting I see it as a stop gap part time job, not a career (although nothing wrong with that)

PoldarksBreeches · 10/12/2016 11:44

Dear Rae,
Thank you for sharing this. Voices like yours are vital in opposing the libfem 'anti whorephobia' line which does women so much harm.

raestory · 10/12/2016 12:30

On the subject on nice guy punters I turn to Hannah Arendt for wisdom:

"Power and violence are opposites; where the one rules absolutely, the other is absent. Violence appears where power is in jeopardy"

Seriously, it is easy to be nice. Anyone can be nice. Nice is a sweater one can put on and off; even Ted Bundy managed nice sometimes. Ergo, we shouldn't just judge people - like punters - on their daily temperament - but also on their actions and their psychology.

Punters rent women's bodies for sexual gratification and are willing to abrogate on any knowledge as to their internal workings, feelings, or motivations. Yes you could say that us middle class prostitutes obfuscate on the truth and 'manipulate' men into thinking we enjoy our circumstance, but any man with an ounce of intelligence should know that the likelihood of this been an untruth is quite high; the only thing he really knows about us is that we need money and we are willing to do something that other women would not touch with a ten foot pole to get it.

I would wager that for most, they know the game well and don't especially care, or willfully sit in denial akin to the denial of an alcoholic, so that they don't have to face their own ritualistic selfishness.

Added, most are married, and so even without pluming the vagaries of the punter's conscious we can ascertain that they are selfish bastards who treat women like shit; persistent, repeated adultery is a form of psychological abuse which can result in an extreme low self esteem for the person taking the brunt of this behaviour.

If these men are ignorant, totally, however, and 'know not what they do' then they are children, and permitted (by society) and willing to maintain an infantile psychological state.

raestory · 10/12/2016 12:34

Ophelia your story breaks my heart.

Yes the sex business is quite fond of mopping up people who have suffered extreme abuse and as such have a fragile concept of their right to personal boundaries; physical boundary is a human right upon which the prostitution industry profits on breaking.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 10/12/2016 12:56

Yes Rae you are obfuscating the truth as is Hoof with the suggestion that it is narrow minded (her words) to call a man who is single and lonely who pays a fortune to wine, dine and have sex with a woman who claims to want nothing more than to have sex with him "a monster?" (which plays right into the men have needs which have to be satisfied line)

You and Hoof seem to have different views on this as Hoof also says because that is what high end escorts do. We made the men believe we loved the job

I agree any decent man would not contemplate hiring a prostitute in the first place but then you are not dealing with decent men in the first place.

Do you ever think how the lies being told by women like you and Hoof impact on far more vulnerable women? When your punters decide they are a bit hard up/ just want to buy it cheaper from a homeless teenager?

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 10/12/2016 13:27

Rae, I hope your posts put NameChange off the idea that there is nothing wrong with prostitution as a career. Clearly in your case there is.

girlwiththeflaxenhair · 10/12/2016 13:34

Thank you all for sharing your stories. It doesn't surprise me to hear that CSA often precedes prostitution.

I always thought it requires the view on the punters part that women do not really like men or sex and that they find it disgusting and will only do it if they get something out of it. Prostitution is the most base expression of this idea, which I think is commonly held in society.

NameChangedBecause · 10/12/2016 13:50

Lass- no, it won't change my views on his being an acceptable career, it's extremely profitable and will allow people to have a lifestyle they would never have otherwise.. Never having to budget and choose between paying the rent or feeding your children for example- all of that is taken care of, and if I want to treat myself I do. Reducing money worries has a massive positive impact on mental health, I used to constantly worry about money. I do however agree that there will be a point that most who do this as a lifelong career may need to get out, and feel they can't. Hence the mental health issues- that's the sad part. Maybe I will be one of those people who never feels they can escape it, I don't know - but at the moment Im not 'trapped' in escorting nor am I damaged or have mental health issues.

EvenTheWind · 10/12/2016 14:50

"I would wager that for most, they know the game well and don't especially care,"

Yes, I agree.

raestory · 10/12/2016 16:42

Lass:

"Do you ever think how the lies being told by women like you and Hoof impact on far more vulnerable women? When your punters decide they are a bit hard up/ just want to buy it cheaper from a homeless teenager?"

I was an 18 year old with social issues and probably 'behavioural' problems when I started. The membranes of the industry are permeable; there are not easily delineated 'high class escorts' and vulnerable prostitutes, women work across the industry. In the words of one prostitute I saw speaking on TV (I did not agree with her politics) "I've worked in penthouse hotel rooms and rooms that could be safely described as a chicken coop". I've worked in cheap 24 hour brothels where women who worked for £300 pound an hour agencies also moonlighted. Very common in the industry.

My point, the women 'lie' only in as much as they have to to survive in the 'game'. The men want to be lied to, require it of us, we don't get paid if we don't.

On popular punter thread I have seen regularly the guys say thing along the lines of 'I know they don't enjoy it, but I need them to fake it else I ca't get off, why should I pay if they won't fake it?' and so on. They are paying to intrude upon your body and your emotional labour.

AntiqueSinger · 10/12/2016 18:39

Thanks for the flowers. Yes, I agree about DP in the sense he could be more understanding. I think it upsets him, he feels powerless, there's no one to take it out on and he is rubbish at emotional stuff. Quite stoic usually. Lots of strong women in his family too, so he really cannot relate to me breaking down or hearing the gritty details. It's a classic: emotionallly vulnerable girl with esteem issues, meets man who cannot respond emotionally when she really needs it.

He has absolutely no idea about my sexual aversions. I hide it completely. I don't know why I do it. But it crops up sometimes halfway through sex or foreplay and I just can never say I am thinking of my step father's penis right now or when my SF was trying to rape me, so please stop. Sometimes I can take myself out of it. Sometimes not. It's hard. I make it hard for myself by not forcing the issue I guess.

Don't mean to derail the thread though. But PTSD is really awful, and I can only imagine how you cope if you develop it as a result of after effects of prositution, and you can't even talk about it because not many people may have sympathy. It's truly horrible.

EvenTheWind · 10/12/2016 19:25

Antique

Please stop having sex that you don't want. It won't help you at all, or him in the long run.

If you don't want to be specific, can you have a standard phrase - "my head is in a bad place, please give me a cuddle" or something?

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 10/12/2016 20:00

Your voice needs to be heard Rae - too often we here the pimp and punter lobby hand wringing that all that is needed is to make the environment where punters can pay to abuse women a wee bit safer and that's it sorted.

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