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Guest post: Sandi Toksvig - "The time is right for the Women's Equality Party"

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MumsnetGuestPosts · 06/11/2015 17:49

I'm rather old fashioned in my beliefs. I always thought that when Parliament passed a law, people were supposed to take notice. So how is it that 45 years ago an Equal Pay Act was introduced, and yet no one has really acted to make sure we get it? When I mentioned the gender pay gap to the environment minister, Liz Truss, she said "It's smaller than it's ever been." It's at 19%. How big was it before?

Much of the world baffles me. How does the UK tolerate the fact that so many women because they are women still live in poverty, suffer harassment and violence, and abandon careers they enjoy because of the exorbitant costs of childcare? I've come to the sad conclusion that in its current form our political system can't be trusted to deal with any of this. There are twice as many men as women in the House of Commons, and they seem to spend most of their time shouting and jeering at one another. Frankly, like many of you, I'm embarrassed by it. Seven months ago, in conversation with my friend Catherine Mayer, I realised it was time for us to take matters into our own hands.

So in March 2015 we founded the Women's Equality Party, a new political force that (we hoped) would unite people of all genders, ages, backgrounds, ethnicities, beliefs and experiences in the shared determination to see women enjoy the same rights and opportunities as men. It would be something new. Non-partisan. Attracting people from the left, from the right, from the centre. People who have had enough of waiting for equality. I have to say even at my most ambitious and optimistic, I could not have predicted the flood of support that soon washed over us. Within seven months WE have more than 50,000 members and supporters, ably led by Sophie Walker, 65 branches across the country and will be standing candidates in the spring elections.

This is not some dreamy group wistfully hoping for change. Late last month, just six months after that initial conversation, I found myself sitting in a hall packed with cheering activists and supporters, clutching a book of wonderfully pragmatic policy proposals. Policies developed through close consultation with experts and our members, and representing the experiences and concerns of thousands of women and men across the country.

WE heard from mothers who want to go back to work but can't, because of crippling childcare costs, and because so few workplaces have actually embraced flexible working.

WE heard from mothers who choose to stay at home, but feel dismissed by society for doing so because, despite its immense value, caring labour is still not recognised, respected and supported.

WE heard from fathers who desperately want to share the joys and responsibilities of parenthood, but are stigmatised for wanting to balance work and home life.

All these experiences reinforced our awareness that care is not taken seriously in our society, nor are the people who care.

WE want to change that.

That's why we propose a dramatic overhaul of parental leave policy. We would guarantee both parents six weeks of non-transferable leave on 90% pay, with an additional 10 months of shared parental leave at statutory pay. This policy would, of course, encompass same-sex couples and adoptive parents, while single parents would be entitled to nominate a second caregiver.

Once this period of leave has passed, WE believe that families should immediately have access to affordable, high-quality childcare. The educational benefits of childcare are clearest in the first 15 hours a week, so those hours should be entirely state funded, with the rest payable at one pound per hour by parents.

These policies are good for women, who have greater freedom to balance work and home life (which will, of course, mean different things to different people). But they're also excellent for men who, for too long, have been excluded from participating fully in family life because care is seen as unmanly, and paternity leave as unprofessional.

Of course, all of our policies require a blend of legislative and cultural change. The reason the Equal Pay Act still isn't working properly is because back in 1970 we changed the law without changing the way people think.

And that's where education comes in.

Many people think equality in education has already been achieved, since girls consistently outperform boys academically. But education is about more than grades, it's about learning how to live, and work, and build relationships. And at present, our children are learning to live according to ludicrous, outdated notions of 'masculine' and 'feminine' behaviour.

So WE want more diverse role models for both boys and girls, starting with encouraging more men to enter primary school teaching and other caring roles. And WE want careers guidance that pays no heed to gender when helping young people to map their futures. And WE want proper, honest sex and relationships education to finally become a reality.

It all sounds very obvious and straightforward, doesn't it? Sadly, enacting these policies will be a lot harder than formulating them. And that's why WE need you. Join us, share your ideas. The time is right for this movement, and WE want you to be part of it.

Photo: Fiona Hanson

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reni2 · 07/11/2015 14:26

Is Sandi Toksvig going to return to this or is this just some sort of notice board for announcements? I'll save my breath if she isn't.

Like so many I am a bit dismayed at the Tara case featuring early and prominently, equal pay, freedom from sexual harassment, women's pensions, girls' body image, childcare, support for single parents and women-only spaces loom large on may women's minds, the freedom of a violent criminal with a penis to be in a female prison does not.

HermioneWeasley · 07/11/2015 14:34

reni2. I agree those are hugely important, but the problem with the trans issue is that if being a woman is a feeling and not grounded in biological reality, then it becomes harder and harder to see and name the problem. For example, in Canada the word "woman" has been removed from literature on pregnancy and birth, replaced with "pregnant individual" and "birthing person".

howtorebuild · 07/11/2015 14:46

Does the Canadian literature refer to people with testicular organs?

howtorebuild · 07/11/2015 14:48

Currently it seems a case of, All women are equal, buut women with testicular organs are more equal.

howtorebuild · 07/11/2015 14:50

I messed that up.

All Women are equal, but Women born with testicular organs are more equal than others.

reni2 · 07/11/2015 14:50

Yes, Hermione, that infuriates me, too. Pregnancy and abortion are women's issues. If trans issues feature in a WEP beyond the obvious non-discrimination it should be the women and transgender equality party.

howtorebuild · 07/11/2015 14:51

Maybe that's not right on reflection, as I didn't consider people born intersex. Blush

JugglingFromHereToThere · 07/11/2015 14:58

Wow, that does seem surprising to me Hermione that in Canada they'd remove the word "woman" from all literature on pregnancy and birth - and talk about "the pregnant individual" Maybe I'm just not keeping up but surely I'm not the only one!

HermioneWeasley · 07/11/2015 14:59

Exactly reni2 - I don't know if you saw the hijacking of world menstrual health day and the tampon tax on Twitter - accusations that the language being used was trans exclusive and "cis- sexist", as if that's the main point. Women's lives and struggles are hugely influenced by our biology and it's important that isn't erased or minimised. We are 50% of the world and our needs are being deprioritised over the wants of a small subset of men.

HermioneWeasley · 07/11/2015 15:02

juggling the midwives of Canada wrote an open letter expressing their concern about this, and I became aware because a trans man was in Huffpost whining about how traumatic it was to see that his mid wife had signed it (he gestated and gave birth to at least one child after transitioning).

JugglingFromHereToThere · 07/11/2015 15:08

Perhaps they could print a small number of booklets with gender neutral language for those individuals who would prefer that Hermione, rather like the ones they probably produce in a variety of locally used languages?
That could be a simple solution?

HermioneWeasley · 07/11/2015 15:23

juggling, I agree with you, but that won't be sufficient for the trans activists who want "woman" to mean "anyone who feels like a woman". Apparently to insist that "woman" is a biological reality is both "very othering" and "being obsessed with what's in people's pants" (see also "thinking like a rapist".

QueenStromba · 07/11/2015 15:50

Thank god the Nobel prize thing was a hoax. All too believable unfortunately (especially since they gave Obama a peace prize when he'd been president for all of five minutes and just hadn't started any wars yet). Jenner has some fantastic PR - kills a woman, gets caught wearing his teenage daughter's clothes a month afterwards and within a few short months all that is forgotten and St Caitlyn is winning awards.

VestalVirgin · 07/11/2015 16:07

If people get so hung up on the "women's equality", why not rename it "women's liberation"?
(If that is the goal. I hope it is.)

Taking the "women" out of it (which by the way is a sex, not a gender!) would lead to nonsensical sentences like "Anti-Gender movements on the rise?", which makes no sense whatsoever. If anyone can tell me what it is supposed to mean, I'd be grateful. I suppose they mean "Misogynists on the rise", but you really wouldn't know ...

Also, if you just talk about "equality" without mentioning women, people are going to assume it is the sort of equality that doesn't include women. You know, like the many democracies where everyone had a right to vote ... except women.

reni2 · 07/11/2015 16:58

What is the deal with "Guest Post" threads, do the OPs generally come back? I'd love to hear from Sandi Toksvig on all of this.

hedgehogsdontbite · 07/11/2015 18:19

I'd like to know the answer too. I've definitely trans-peaked recently.

MotherKat · 07/11/2015 20:15

Thoroughly disgusted by all the trans exclusionary nonsense on here, trans women don't experience privilege from being assigned male at birth, how dehumanizing.

Thelilywhite · 07/11/2015 20:20

Joined the party a couple of months ago and contributed to requests for suggestions re policies. However if they continue with the support of trans women in women only spaces I will be recinding my membership. Some great posts around the issues especially queen stromba After reading those horrific stories if I had any doubts before I don't now.

HermioneWeasley · 07/11/2015 20:29

motherKat I'm genuinely interested how you can read a post like Stromba's and still conclude the concerns of feminists (and most of us have previously been vocal trans allies) are "nonsense"?

None of us are anti trans or wish TW anything but happy and peaceful lives but we are insisting on stating the fact thT male and female are biological realities, not "feelings". There are a few TW brave enough to agree with us and understand our concerns. (LOVE Miranda Yardley)

Garlick · 07/11/2015 20:36

how dehumanizing

That would be if they were 'assigned' non-human at birth.

DioneTheDiabolist · 07/11/2015 20:37

I wish you all the best Sandi and hope to see a candidate in NI.Smile I would love to see a party dedicated to women's equality. Greater equality for women means a greater society for most.

Such a shame that despite real issues that effect most real women needing to be resolved, too many on MN are fixated on the tiny issue of Trans. I do hope that WEP will focus on the real issues that effect all the women of Britain.

Good luck.

Garlick · 07/11/2015 20:37

Oops, sorry, Hermione. I hadn't refreshed & missed your more courteous reply.

CharlieSierra · 07/11/2015 20:47

Dione don't you count the incarcerated women who are now sharing quarters with a violent criminal with a 7 inch penis as 'real women'?

Kittlekattle · 07/11/2015 20:49

I agree Dione but sadly I think that unless the transactivist issue is at least seen and thought about then it can derail all those issues that you rightly identify. Suddenly we cannot get accurate statistics about female health and wealth, accurately name the issues affecting women and cannot protect our women only spaces, such as prisons, refuges, hospitals and the vulnerable women in them.

OddBoots · 07/11/2015 20:55

There is a good argument for the starting point of facing "real issues that effect most real women" being deciding what defines a woman.

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