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Child scored 100% on all yr2 SATS

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ThunderOnlyHappens · 17/05/2019 22:10

DS has scored 100% on all his SATS- we have always known he is bright, but does this put him in the G&T category? What should our next course of action be? Not sure if we should speak with his teacher and see what she says? He is the only pupil at his school to score this highly.

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BrieAndChilli · 17/05/2019 22:13

Havnt they only just sat SATs? Surely the results havnt come back yet? Mine sat the welsh national tests and we don’t get results until July. Hmm

klendraa · 17/05/2019 22:15

Grin this has to be a joke.

He’s in year 2! Do they even have their SATSs back ?

Well if he’s the only pupil to achieve this allegedly then are you not bright enough to realise that would definitely place him in G&T.

Bluemascara4 · 17/05/2019 22:16

I didn't think results were posted out until July?????????

SteveTheSpiderPlant · 17/05/2019 22:16

We haven't even had DSs sats back yet! The child is 6 or 7 years old, I would leave worrying wether they are G & T untill they are at least going to high schook.

TrixieFranklin · 17/05/2019 22:16

KS1 get marked internally so results come straight from the teachers / head and KS2 get their externally marked results back mid July IIRC.

Pipandmum · 17/05/2019 22:17

That’s great but I’d do nothing. If he is bright you’d know it already. Let him be a normal kid.

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BernardsarenotalwaysSaints · 17/05/2019 22:18

Do you get given the results of y2 SATs at some schools then? We never have at my dc school.

missmapp · 17/05/2019 22:21

The school mark the tests, but should not be reporting them yet as final standards are teacher assessment.
Scoring full marks clearly means he is doing well, but doing well WITHIN age related expectations. You need to ensure he is being challenged of course, but gifted and talented means well above age expectations, which means more than full marks in sat s.

EskeewdBeef · 17/05/2019 22:21

Not sure if we should speak with his teacher and see what she says?

Who told you his scores?

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ThunderOnlyHappens · 17/05/2019 22:53

I received a voicemail from his teacher. I was at work and did not collect at the end of the day.

I don't want to be a pushy parent, nor a negligent one.

They are internally marked by his teacher for these SATS-they were all taken this week. I promise I'm not lying or exaggerating Hmm. We have held off on getting him tested because I don't want to pressure him, he's only young and I'm happy with his progress within the school but even I am taken aback by this!

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ThunderOnlyHappens · 17/05/2019 22:56

@klendraa not joking. I don't work in education, and although deemed bright in school at no point did I ever achieve 100% in a test! There are no manuals for how to navigate this, and as I have said I do not know how to interpret these results.

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FamilyOfAliens · 17/05/2019 22:59

Why do you need to do anything at all? I don’t understand.

PrincessScarlett · 17/05/2019 23:03

Our year 2s are in the middle of their SATS and the school doesn't give out the results to parents. That's very odd for a head teacher to call you and say your child is the only one to receive 100%. Why did they even have to mention he was the only one? Seems a bit unprofessional.

Yubaba · 17/05/2019 23:08

You don’t need to do anything, my ds2 got 100% on his year 2 sats last year.
It doesn’t mean anything, just that he did well on the day he was tested.

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ThunderOnlyHappens · 17/05/2019 23:13

Thank you to the sensible posters, I do appreciate your opinions and thoughts.

For those who are taking the opportunity to stick the knife in and give it a turn, please give it a rest. I'm not asking your opinion as to my life choices or the professionalism of the school etc etc. I am proud of DS and that's what actually counts right now.

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user1494670108 · 17/05/2019 23:17

Whether you need to do anything really depends on how good the school is. Ideally they will keep him challenged and interested and you won't need to do anything, as the work gets harder then he will be stretched a little further. However, if they don't then your do could end up bored and either disruptive and switched off in which case you may need to intervene

thirdfiddle · 17/05/2019 23:20

Sweet of them to go out of their way to tell you. I don't think it's super unusual but great to be able and accurate too. Probably enough to be G&T by school standards (top 10% or so), the tests don't challenge them enough to separate real giftedness from solid ability.

Is your child enjoying school? Do they learn and make progress? Do you feel teachers are challenging them? My answers are currently mostly, no and no. However, DC concerned has given up on school and has taken refuge in learning music where there are always challenges. They're reading enough fiction and nonfiction to progress academically anyway. If that mostly turns to a no, I would be a lot more active in either challenging school or removing child.

Passtherioja · 18/05/2019 00:08

Full marks ok the actual tests (which can be sat throughout May) would indicate he'll be judged as Greater Depth...In fact if he's not then you'd wonder what you have to do to get GD!! I'd only ask questions if the results come back as "working at the expected level."

Blipbip · 18/05/2019 13:59

100% is a great score! His teachers will be just as proud of him as you are which is, I imagine, why they told you the score. We had a similar call from school after DS’s KS1 SATs, they were pleased as punch with him, and so was I.
You don’t need to do anything if they are that proud of him the school will be working him at greater depth.
My DS is now year 4 and he is well challenged by his school. At home we follow his interests - his football team is Liverpool and he does a lot of sport too.

GeorgeHerbert · 18/05/2019 15:12

Of course you should be proud and as pp said, you need to check that the school have some plans for stretching him.

My ds was similar in Y2, except more able in Maths - school gave him a KS3 paper at the end of Y2 and he achieved a L5. This meant that his primary did have some challenges in supporting his mathematical ability.

He went through secondary and achieved straight 9's at GCSE. He is on track for A* A levels but this all pales into insignificance because he wants to try for Cambridge (Maths) and has many more hurdles to overcome including the dreaded STEP (that's my dread not his!).

The point of telling you this is that you may need to support your ds to be somewhat of a self starter. Even the best of schools can't always stretch their really bright kids (ds told me the other day he has literally learned nothing in Maths from school sources until he got to A level Further Maths). DS has learned to self teach, find resources, find other areas of interest and more latterly to learn that despite being suprt bright, it still might not be enough to get to Cambridge.

Enjoy your ds success and encourage him with wider interests.

sirfredfredgeorge · 18/05/2019 15:46

The KS1 SATs are really quite simple, remember the idea of the SATs are not about identifying talent, but identifying if the basics have been taught, so there's no need for really difficult questions (which will demoralise those who can't access it).

Because the marks are not collated, no-one knows what the breakdown of scores are across the country. I'm surprised the school does not see more - although of course it's very easy for kids to just rush through inattentively without any sort of exam discipline and get questions wrong that they could comfortably answer.

Thirdfiddle's question about enjoyment of school are the right place.

AlexaShutUp · 18/05/2019 15:52

You're totally overthinking this, OP. 100% on SATS is great but no indication of being a genius! The main thing you need to ask yourself is whether your DS is happy in school and engaged/eager to learn. As long as you can say yes to both of those questions, I don't think any further actions are required.

spinn · 18/05/2019 15:57

Op I'd say you are already doing things right. Speak with school at parents evening and as if there is anything they feel he needs to develop on.
Don't forget, now the pressure is on him to progress at this level in ks2 when he may have had his peak earlier than the others (every kid has a peak at some stage and then they all start to even out)....so be wary of pushing too hard too early

TheWaiting · 18/05/2019 16:09

Well done your DS. If school have made the decision to call to let you know then you can feel confident that they’re going to ensure he continues to be stretched next year.
One of my DC scored 100% in their KS2 maths SATs paper. Just maths, but School told me it was very unusual. At senior school, maths teaching has varied from excellent to shockingly poor but DC will be taking both maths and further maths at GCSE next year with a predicted grade 9. My point being that if your DS is indeed gifted/extremely bright then don’t worry too much about what you need to do to keep him ‘up there’ as IME such children tend to naturally keep themselves up there anyway. Just encourage him to enjoy learning. Smile

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