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Child scored 100% on all yr2 SATS

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ThunderOnlyHappens · 17/05/2019 22:10

DS has scored 100% on all his SATS- we have always known he is bright, but does this put him in the G&T category? What should our next course of action be? Not sure if we should speak with his teacher and see what she says? He is the only pupil at his school to score this highly.

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Toomanyspoons · 19/05/2019 22:04

That sounds superb - we’ll done. As a primary teacher I can suggest that they are likely to be a very high achiever and you should just keep doing what you are doing as it is clearly working. Gifted is a dreadful term but no - this kind of score doesn’t indicate an exceptional kind of intelligence/academic prowess. They are likely to be the best of their peers (and most likely this will continue). As a contrast, we have a boy in our school’s preschool who also sat the tests for yr 2 and got 6 questions wrong overall. He is 4 yrs old and hasn’t even started school yet. So definitely brilliant and definitely A* material but not “gifted”.

Passtherioja · 20/05/2019 07:05

Just a thought....the ks1 SATs mark schemes haven't been released yet. Now the tests aren't so tricky that the answers can't be worked out (they are only 7!) but they shouldn't have been marked yet without the mark scheme to refer to alongside the test.

ourkidmolly · 20/05/2019 07:19

My son also received those scores. We had zero phone calls or excitement. Feeling shortchanged now. I was pleased though. Haven't seen any g and t traits though. Nowt has changed, he's just trundling through year 3. He's achieving and happy.

LetItGoToRuin · 20/05/2019 13:41

Well done to your DS!

KS1 SATS don’t test Greater Depth – that’s done on teacher assessment. Therefore, getting 100% on all of the tests only indicates that he’s at the expected standard in everything, and is also mature enough to read, understand and answer all of the questions correctly. That is something to be very proud of, for a 6 or 7-year-old child!

It’s fairly likely he’s working at greater depth in all areas anyway. The end of key stage teacher assessment is much more in-depth, and the SATs are just a small part which feeds into this overall assessment.

As others have said, there’s no need to do anything dramatic at this stage, but just keep your eye out to see that he is being challenged at school. It sounds like they’re pretty excited about his results so he will be well and truly on their radar!

thirdfiddle · 20/05/2019 14:19

ourkidmolly I think sometimes they err so much in the direction of protecting them from test taking stress that they don't celebrate good results when they would if it was any other piece of work. As long as DC aren't bothered. I'd tell them if they asked, DS didn't.

supersonictraveller · 21/05/2019 07:06

Just scoring 100% on sats doesn't make your child gifted. It certainly tells you he/she is bright. That's it. They are testing basics, not out of year group curriculum.

If he is the only one that scores so high, that would be more of my worry. In the past, children were able to take higher level tests if they were able, and in my dc's school, that consisted of 1/3 of the children. Now there's only one test for all.

Atalune · 21/05/2019 07:10

100% isn’t that uncommon. DS got that on his, he’s in y5 now and doing well. Y2 says aren’t that hard or demanding. I think your teacher has jumped the gun and she would have flagged his brillIance to you before now?

Scarcelyburnt · 21/05/2019 19:23

Thanks for raising that question OP. My son regularly gets 100% in his progress tests. I just assumed it was not unusual (I assume there are others scoring equally as high). The responses here have been useful.

extrastrongmints · 21/05/2019 19:32

He would be considered G&T (which is fairly broad at top 5-10%) and is also well above the "greater depth" threshold (which is defined for KS1 SATs and generally falls around 90%).
However, beyond that all you can say is that he has hit the ceiling of the test, so his attainment is higher than can be measured with a Y2 test.
You and the school need to know his actual attainment before you can plan how to meet his needs - "somewhere above Y2" is not a sufficient basis to plan. Best practice would be to do an above level test to determine whether he is just above, or a long way above.

Oneofthosedreadfulparents · 22/05/2019 17:11

I would definitely try to keep things low key at the moment. Be proud, certainly - having a bright kid can be amazing, fun, surprising. But also learn to be very self aware and develop a bit of a thick skin, there will be a number of challenges to navigate.
At this age, the social side of his education is as important as the academic. You could create extra challenges for your son if you set out to emphasise his 'difference' to his peers. They'll work it out for themselves in time, and they may navigate that brilliantly, or it could be difficult for them all.
The school have clearly noticed a potential talent, and that's great - they'll be making plans about what to do about it, if anything. Have a chat at parents evening to understand what their approach is, and to find out if there's anything you can replicate at home, but the chances are you're already nurturing his abilities, and he'll let you know if he need more from you by expressing interests in topics, reading certain books etc. Keep a quiet eye to make sure he seems happy, keep talking but not pushing. From our experience, we found yr 4 was a tricky time, due both to getting bored with school work and issues with friendships. That's the time you'll need the school's support and advice the most, and being a low maintenance, supportive parent will likely serve you well!

QueenBlueberries · 28/05/2019 05:39

I think it’s a very strong indicator that your DS is gifted, and you should be pleased that the school picked up on it. Personally I would arrange a meeting with teacher to discuss this. Just to see what the school will do next, obviously there are some teachers who are better than others at dealing with children with higher ability. Sats are not the only indicator though so maybe speak to the school about his interests in general and take it from there. My DS now in year 8 had a really good y6 sats combined score and it was picked up very early by his secondary school which is great. They really think outside the box with him.

DCIRozHuntley · 28/05/2019 05:51

Meh, my daughter did very well in the first few assessments (I was informally told she got 100%, or very close to it, in the first few papers.) I'm just going to carry on taking her on trips that bring her topic work to life, chatting to her lots and reading at home. I think she's blessed with a good memory and great comprehension skills but I don't think SATs are best placed to measure real intelligence. I was very good at passing exams and got 11 GCSEs at A* and A but I'm just a normal adult.

holdingonbyathread · 01/06/2019 21:42

My autistic son got 100% in his yr2 SATS too. He's has been assessed as profoundly gifted. But the year 2 SATS papers aren't that hard really, you could be quite bright and ace them rather than a genius. For contrast, ds could complete the year 6 SATS papers at the same time...shame his genius can't help him make friends or be happy 😢

papergate · 01/06/2019 21:52

Star I must admit I'd be chuffed if my dc scored 100%. Even if they didn't I know they are bright and happy children anyway so It's all good.

Teacakeandalatte · 01/06/2019 21:59

Haha MN G&T boards are so bitchy.

LoveBlackpool · 02/06/2019 23:11

Its great that your DS scored 100%. It may mean he is gifted but not in isolation. My dd got 100% in her KS2 SATS and she is bright, a very good learner but certainly not gifted and doesn't need anything extra than what usually happens in school

ThunderOnlyHappens · 19/06/2019 02:34

Update- have met with DS's teacher who confirmed he is 'at greater depth' in all areas, especially maths, and would be considered g&t if the programme still existed. The school are planning on ensuring he is stretched academically and have said that in previous years he would be put forward a year but that is quite old-fashioned and he would run out of things to do around year 5!

We have told DS none of this-he is only 7 and we want him to enjoy being young.

Pleased for him and hoping that he does get the input he needs, we'll monitor it closely to avoid becoming either cocky or sliding into bad habits (as both DH and I did!)

Thank you for the words of encouragement and knowledge, I have appreciated it all.

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LetItGoToRuin · 20/06/2019 12:45

Thanks for updating. It sounds like the school are on the ball. I'd love to hear how he gets on over the next few years.

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