like cod

[cod]

arf at this section

parp parp parp
where the " my kid is thick " section

She speaks highly of you!

rhubabrb you are scarery when you do that

I know!

god i was really worried it was a stlaker liek the man ont he bra thread

There was a stalker on the bra thread? Doh! I missed that! How come no-one ever stalks me?

So where should people looking for support look on Mumsnet then? Will ability (or lack of) become just another thing that has to be swept under the carpet because it can't be discussed? Is this why provision in many schools is so appalling? As a Governor Cod I would have thought you would be interested in educational provision for all children! Every Child Matters - isn't that what we are told? Most of the parents who post on the board aren't bragging and those who do, well, it is up to them isn't it?

Rhubarb! You bananahead- I was gearing up to get nasty. So pleased it is you and not a prat.:)

Yoyo- support with what? There are libraries with gadzillions of books to borrow, clubs to join and maths to learn, games to play, the internet to search, musical instruments to learn, museums to visit, art to see, pools to swim in, fun runs to enter, school curriculums to follow, social skills to hone, bikes to ride, friends to make, frames to climb, sports to learn, trees to look at etc etc etc etc. What do more does any kid need, able or not? What is all this whinging about children needing stretching? There's a massive world out there to access and exercise young brains. If kids of high ability don't have access to it then that's rubbish and maybe you should talk to the new social exclusion minister to highlight this issue. Because I hadn't realised that the able were so excluded myself.

I rumbled her in the first five minutes

Haven't been on the netof mum much this week, greenie. Is this a new game, rhubs?

kids who are truly gifted can have a terrible time of it. the resources are not there for them and all the sn stuff is geared towards kids who are struggling, not kids who are whizzing thru and are totally understimulated. but when you think about it, 'gifted' is just another special educational need. my neice for example, is gifted, no doubt! but the school are holding her back so she does not go too far in front of the class! she is held back on reading books, given repetative work to do that is so far beneath her capabilities it's insulting. she is not stretched or challenged in any way. result? she is bored and sees school as a waste of time. she also finds it hard to relate to her classmates because - and sorry if people get sniffy - she is 'mentally' several years older than them iyswim. so she is lonely too. then there are those who are jealous - she has a tough time of it and it's not fair because she is such a lovely little girl.

Now then, my boys are autistic and i thank god for all the help and support that is there for them - as it should be and there ought to be MORE!! they are bright boys and thanks to the help they get they are doing really well - but hard as it is to get the support my boys and others on their 'side' of sn need and deserve, people like my neice are truly forgotten. she needs support too and deserves an education tailored to meet her needs, but instead she is made to sit with other kids explaining the work to them or helping them to read. she is part student part unpaid classroom assistant. thats not on.

Btw -my sister is so scared about upsetting me that she doesnt talk about my neices acheivements....i admit i did rage and cry when boys were first dx about how unfair it was, but i never meant i wasnt proud of her, i am. very. Just as i am of my boys for all their fab acheivements.

Ok i know i am going on, all i am saying is actual 'gifted' kids can have a really hard time of it and can be really badly let down by the education system too. and it can be really tough to parent a gifted child. so why is it ok for me to come on and talk and give/ask for support re my kids, but if my sister did the same, she would likely be mocked or accused of boasting?

the attitude towards this topic really upsets me. ds has major behaviour problems at school, we think he has aspergers (but without a dx no one is willing to help) but is also very bright (and yes he has actually been tested). school have absolutely no idea what to do with him, so he doesnt get much help for behaviour problems, and he is stuck doing the work the rest of the class is doing which makes him bored and his behaviour problems get worse. like m2pw niece, he cant relate to the rest of the kids in his class, he has no friends and so is also badly behaved at playtime because he gets picked on all the time for not fitting in. but im sure its great fun to have a laugh about him, nice to know we keep people amused.

the one good thing the cruel gits on this thread do is show me what school are obviously thinking as they are as bad as you lot who come here for a laugh. if you like i can start a thread in special needs and link it so you can take the piss for that aswell. should keep you going all week

Scummymummy - I don't come on here looking for arguments and am educated enough to know how to extend my children myself thanks. Unfortunately there are parents of children labelled G&T (mine are not incidentally) who neither have the means or education to do so. If they can use any information from this board to help their children then surely that is a good thing? I don't like the title either but don't have a major issue with it. I have said repeatedly that I only want my children to be taught to a level that keeps them interested and inspires them to want to learn more. Whingeing doesn't come into it actually. Oh yes, we do all the recreational stuff too but my children do have to go to school every day and I'd like them to have a positive experience. Hope I've explained myself enough to you. Perhaps I'd best go underground again?

am just thinking of the reaction i would get at school if i went in and gave them scummys suggestions. ds was reading roald dahl books at home, but because he hadnt finished the easy ones at school (he refused because they were so boring) his teacher wouldnt let him move up a level til i went in and caused a fuss. it is bloody ridiculous that we should have to fight for this. if he was struggling at school and they kept giving him work way above what he was capable of everyone would be outraged. the fact that he is bright and given unsuitable work appears to be funny.

as a governor i ma mroe interested int he HUGE amounts of plodders tbh

i am intersted athte " gna t kids by default are bullied argument " thats eems to validate the existence of the whole topic

i am more interested in the 'parents of gifted children only want to brag' argument which i think was the reason for starting the thread.

i didnt claim all gifted kids are bullied, but mine is. however it is clearly unreasonable that i should be allowed to post anything about him, and there is plenty of stuff i would like to discuss other than how he gets on with other kids. however its quite difficult starting a thread when you know you are going to get jumped on by ignorant fuckwits who dont know what they are on about.

fyi i also have a plodder - he is a lot happier at school than his brother because he finds it easier to talk to other kids. everyone is interested in the plodders. the attitude that a child should know how to get on with things just because they are clever is shite, and i think if you dont know that you have no business being involved with school in a governers role.

maybe we should have a section for people who are so far up their own arses they cannot believe anyone might have an opinion different to theirs or know something they dont then you can stay there and not insult the rest of us.

Hi Cod. Sycophant's just MSN'd me - apparently you're being boring. Thought you ought to know.

gigglinggoblin I agree completely

Some people are too big for their boots really IMHO

And for those children who are bullied it isn't really surprising when other parents react like this is it? Where do their children learn to respect others?

I don't see why GT are so threatening to others really

Why does it bother them so much what we post?

What gets on my tits with all of this is that children are treated as their parent's achievements. Like having extra letters after their names "Mr and Mrs Van-Deere WGATC (with gifted and talented children)" Whatever happened to treating children as the special individuals that they are? If either one of mine grew up to be high achievers, I would like to think that this would be because of the hard work they have put in, not because I might have played Mozart to them when I was up the duff or shown them flash cards as newborns.

I mean this honestly, if my kids end up as toilet cleaners it wouldn't bother me in the slightest, so long as they were happy doing this. One thing I have learnt is that being intelligent does not buy you happiness. In fact, most of the intelligent and gifted people I know are actually very sad, lonely and problematic people. Whereas those who are not blessed in the brains department are somehow more fulfilled, sociable and happier. I think it's because they don't have the high and sometimes impossible expectations of the high-achievers.

Therefore sometimes I'm glad neither of my kids are geniuses, I think being a genius paves a very difficult life for that person.

Isn't this topic (as other posters have said) about making sure able children's needs are met during the many hours of the day they are in school?

My children (who are not especially able compared to many on here) do loads of lovely enriching things in the time they are not at school, but they spend over 6 hours a day at school. Since most of us send our children to school to learn stuff, it shouldn't be a fight to make sure that they do.

I don't know why it's seen as bragging for people to seek appropriate educational provision for their children.

catint hehat i neither understand( must be being a plodder and all) or care

codplod lol

i leave my envoys rhubarb and scummy to argue

commoner!