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To want to get my child tested by an educational psychologist....

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royaljelly · 26/10/2011 23:36

Sorry quite long as a bit of backgroung is needed.

My daughter turned 2 at the end of June 2011 and she is really intelligent (may be biased).

The main factors are:

Can count to 20 in English

Can count to 8 in Spanish, (we do not speak spanish and think she has picked this up from Dora),

She recognises if you ask her to count in Spanish or English.

Often counts backwards from 10 correctly, even whilst playing

Will remember statements, such as, 'We will build a den after dinner'. As soon as dinner is done we have to build a den.

Recognises colours such as pink, purple, brown, as well as primary ones and will get the correct crayon even if the wrapping is a different colour.

Recognises shapes and can draw them if asked.

Spots mumbers in the street and calls them out.

Has circled the toys in the Argos catalogue for Xmas.... we thought she was scribbling but she has a definate view on what she wants, (quite a tomboy and has missed out the entire girly range except for a kitchen).

As parents we thought she was rather bright, but thought our own biased views made this the case. This has now been picked up by her childminder and even people at the bus-stop who think she is older than she actually is.

I have been on the Mensa website and they have said that for children under 10, their tests be carried out by an educational psychologist.

They seem to mainly carry out tests on ADHD or troubled kids and partner now thinks that if I go ahead and organise this it may label her.

I think that if we get advice on encouraging and building her intelligence then this will benefit her in the future.

I should add that we do not sit her down and command her to draw shapes or count, but do this as part of family fun time ie: sat on one parents knee as we play Trivial Pursuit with her much older brothers, (she gets to move the counter).

Do I go ahead with the tests or not. I am afraid of becoming complacent with her intelligence and not allowing her to have the best opportunies in the future.

OP posts:

belledechocchipcookie · 27/10/2011 00:04

OurPlanetNeptune · 27/10/2011 00:06

Oh just read the OP's last comment - University? Wind up surely ...

manicinsomniac · 27/10/2011 00:07

I would be wary of Ed Psychs for four reasons:

They cost a fortune
Children referred to them where I work tend to be referred because they have a problem or are struggling in some way, not because they are doing well.
Ed Psychs want to diagnose and label.
Some children are very early developers. It would be awful if she was given an IQ of 170 now only to find that everyone catches up with her and she ends up feeling like she's failing.

I don't think she's in the normal range for a child under 2 and a half though - drawing shapes on demand, circling presents and counting backwards. That IS unusual.

SirCharles · 27/10/2011 00:09

Royal jelly I hate to say it but there is nothing you can do to secure her place in the job market. You can only do your best to equip her.

I have known incredibly intelligent people without:

the skills to cross the road (ask any magdalen Coll Cambridge grad & they will have a story about this)
the social skills to get on with others so they are ostracised at work or worse sacked
the focus to even fill in th form to apply to do a doctorate
the ability to go looking for a job when they lose the one they had

These people are all in their 30s now and I bet when they got straight As aged 7-14 &again at 16 & 18 their parents thought "phew well at least s/he is intelligent & will have great job prospects".

Equip your DC with all the skills they need from now and hopefully yours will not be back skulking in your spare room in 34 years time.... (yes really). If you feel strongly about this intelligence thing then do a Mr Hamilton & work lots of jobs to ensure yu can provide the best for DC to fulfill their potential - ie a fabulous private school from age 4 ( nb. Not all PSs are equal) with small classes & exciting teachers.

Good luck.

brdgrl · 27/10/2011 00:10

I think that if she could have her intelligence scores submitted to Mensa then it would aid all future College / Uni applications. As I said I may be biased but other peolple have mentioned it to me and I def. would do whatever I could to make her future marketability in the job world secure.

i was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but...you just lost me. you cannot be serious.

CannibalBitsArrrgh · 27/10/2011 00:16

hahaha awww bless - well done you for raising a genius ..... my four year old is the first port of call for advice for the heart surgeon at our local hospital -great innit?????

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royaljelly · 27/10/2011 00:18

Seem to have opened a can of worms here. I think I am still going to go for it and if she is average intelligence so be it. I will still encourage her learning advances.

As I have said before registered childcare providers, and even people we have met have mentioned her advanced intelligence and when she was born the midwife was shocked at her reactions, (in a good way).

Her older brothers are 12 and 9 so quite a big age gap. They occasionally will allow her into their room and play with her.

ILoveTIFFANY do you actually have children? As a parent you would want the best opportunities for your child and as soon as they are born you are considering their future?

531800000008 Please don't try and turn this into some sort of arguement. i am only looking for genuine views on this. If your opinion happens to be different then I will take it into consideration. You do not need to have a conversation with yourself to put your point across.

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SacreLao · 27/10/2011 00:19

When you consider it can take MONTHS or even YEARS for parents with severely disabled children to see ad Education Pych than yes YABU.

Your child is doing well, why should she get what a lot of children who are having HUGE problems do not get?

SacreLao · 27/10/2011 00:20

If you want her IQ tested than pay for it to be done, the NHS is for HEALTH conditions, including mental health.

belledechocchipcookie · 27/10/2011 00:21

Why post in AIBU if you're going to ignore everyone who posts? Is there anyone on here who's in favour of IQ testing for a 2 year old? No.

GypsyMoth · 27/10/2011 00:22

Oh ffs are you real? Of course I have children, did I not already say??? Bigger age gap than YOURS too!

GypsyMoth · 27/10/2011 00:23

Yes, how much does it cost op?? You are so fixated on this madness I'm sure you must have done the research??

What did this genius do at birth which surprised the midwife so much then??

531800000008 · 27/10/2011 00:25

tsktsk Belle, you'll have a smacked hand from OP in a minute, just like I did

squeakyfreakytoy · 27/10/2011 00:26

"AIBU?" says Op

Yes, says everyone...

"no I not" says Op

No can of worms has been opened, you just dont want to listen, you just wanted to try and do a boast about your kid...

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royaljelly · 27/10/2011 00:27

SacreLao At no point in my post have I said I want someone else to pay for this. I am quite willing to pay this myself. Please read the posts correctly before posting.

Maybe I cannot secure her future job marketability but if i can get advice on how to hone, not only her interpersonal skills but also enhance her intelligence, then I will take it.

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SacreLao · 27/10/2011 00:27

The OP hasn't once mentioned paying for the Ed Pysch?
I assumed she meant NHS?

Got to be a wind up surely, suprised the midwife at birth? Was she reading the bloody dictionary?

squeakyfreakytoy · 27/10/2011 00:27

"What did this genius do at birth which surprised the midwife so much then??"

probably read her own weight off the scales and wrote it on the sheet after cutting her own umbilical cord..

SacreLao · 27/10/2011 00:28

Royal - At no point did you say you wanted to pay yourself either.

Your child is 2 years old, you are being ridiculous!

GypsyMoth · 27/10/2011 00:29

Well I'd love to know!!!

Do ed psychs do stuff like that anyway?

belledechocchipcookie · 27/10/2011 00:29

531800000008

OP, pet. It really will serve no purpose whatsoever other then waste £500-800 of your money.

SacreLao · 27/10/2011 00:29

squeaky PMSL at that comment!

brdgrl · 27/10/2011 00:31

i do agree that you may need some outside help to develop her interpersonal skills.

SacreLao · 27/10/2011 00:31

High intellegence isn't always a good thing.

For one Aspergers results in high intellegence but is a mental disability.

Let your child be a child.

CannibalBitsArrrgh · 27/10/2011 00:32

Look, kids are sponges from birth to about 3 yrs, they mop up everything they hear and compartmentalise it - from then on you have to teach them the different language they are listening to - I'm english and my DC speak english, my family are from Columbia so they speak Spanish - my kids can understand the language but dont speak it ...I have very close friends from Japan - my kids know the basics but are not fluent in Japanese, they can say hi how are you etc- just because your DD aged 2 has watched Dora - doesnt make her fluent in Spanish - it makes her like every other kid in the UK who has watched that show

531800000008 · 27/10/2011 00:32

yes I think you need help, OP

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