That looks like very interesting stuff MrsT. Does that tie up with what gets called oxidative stress in autistic children?
Probono, just figured out. Hello! I have read something on testosterone interacting with mercury and increasing its toxicity somewhere. Don't remember where but it might be in favourites somewhere.
Mso Jabs is a support group for the parents of children who reacted badly to vaccines. Have a little respect and thank the lord that you don't need that kind of support. Vaccine damage does happen, it has to happen to somebody, these are the people it happened to. Taking the piss out of suffering is immature, unpleasant and unnecessary. Calling them antivaccine is stupid.
How about you stop the nasty jibes about Age of Autism and Jenny McCarthy too? If you have an actual, thought out, grown up criticism to make, do so.You don't agree fine, but try to remain civil about it.
I have a very low opinion of journalist Deer and blogger Orac but I'm not going to personally attack you for citing them.
About Wakefield et al's science. You say it has been 'discredited' By whom, where, when, which papers do you mean, all of them, which part of his work? The parts that have become accepted like many autisitc children have bowel disorders? Or other accepted parts like some children improve on CFGF diets (which didn't actually originate with Wakefield)? Or the parts about atypical viral exposure and bowel disease? The parts that have been replicated by scientists in Italy, Venezuela and the United States?
This work hasn't even been put to test by epidemiological studies, nor by the clinical studies which have failed to replicate his work, nor by the GMC. I think you are mixing up the orchestrated trashing of one man's reputation with flaws in the science of a whole team of specialists. Why for example does Deer (and others) continue to repeat the 'rival vaccine' fairy tale when he knows it isn't true? (My guess is so that people will unthinkingly repeat it on forums, on blogs and at office coffee machines until it becomes something that everybody 'just knows'. Just in the manner that everybody 'just knows' that the science has been discredited). Except both of those things are quite simply not true. And most people haven't read the science.
With a PR machine it is all about timing whether one is launching something new or destroying a brave scientist and a whole load of very sick children.
From Jenny McCarthy (yes we all know she is an explaymate but we don't actually give a shit because it is irrelevant);
Statement about the trashing of Wakefield, the monkey study and scientific censorship.