MMR yesterday (12 month old DS)... screaming agony - won't walk or crawl today??

[newmomma]

Well,
The title kind of sums it up.
My DS had his MMR jab yesterday and was fine for a couple of hours.

But within 2 hours he was crying inconsollably. I had no idea what was wrong - managed to get some dinner into him and then put him in the bath.

It became obvious in the bath (he's been walking for about a month now and LOVES to stand up and play with toys in the bath) that he wouldn't stand and was in quite a lot of pain.

He slept badly last night. This morning he's beside himself. He won't crawl or walk and if you try and move him he screams. It is his right leg - the leg that only had one injection, rather than 2. We've tried calpol and nurofen but it doesn't work. He keeps trying to stand and crawl but then stops and cried. Its so upsetting - he looks like a lame dog. I wish I could explain to him that he'll have to spend some time not moving about until it gets better but he's too young to understand.

I have spoken to NHS Direct last night - they said it definately wasn't a side effect of the MMR and to take him to the doctor.

We have an appt at 11.30 today - but I was wondering whether anyone else had experienced something like this with the MMR jab?

Thanks

(Sorry for the long post)

Yes. I am so sorry they fobbed you off.

They will never admit it, ever.

My son was treated by a homeopath and recoverd well, but was left with some issues.

They will make up every lie not to blame the vaccine.

If I where you I would start informing yourself about vaccines. I would also consider very seriously before having anothers.

So sorry its so bad when it happens. You could go on the Jabs website for vaccine harmed children, on the forum they share experience. Its not just for very badly damaged ones but kids that have had more severe than normal reaction.

I would imagine that there are lots of people to whom this has happened, but not all of them will have had so close a correlation as you have had.

The NHS will NEVER admit that it was the jab so don't bother trying.

My DD had the mmr and had a really sore leg and then the booster and had an incredibly sore arm for about 5 days. She is now fine.

I am sorry threebellies I don't know your experience but you are potentially scaring someone.

'They' will make up every lie.....who the heck are 'they'. Don't want to get into the whole mmr debate, suffice to say I don't agree with where you are coming from but it is not helpful to put such extreme information in your post to someone whose child has had a quite common reaction to the vaccine.

threebellies is saying what happened to her, not running around shouting "end of the world!" - saying anything negative about vaccines is not scaring people.

Is pain so severe they can't crawl or stand a common side effect?

newmomma, how is your son? How did his appointment go? Hope he has recovered or is feeling better.

What is the injection site like?

I hope he has improved since this morning.

Very worrying for you.

It is early days though.

Back off with the dont scare the OP line.

The OP asked for anyones experience of this, so I gave her mine.

vaccine reactions happen. Deal with it.

You didn't really give her your experience though did you? You talked about vaccine damaged children and how 'they' will never 'admit' it was the vaccine. I think if I was the OP I may have been a bit scared by that and may have prefered a less dramatic response.....

How is he this morning?

newmomma, hope everything is alright with you.

Hope he is better this morning - my DD had a similar reaction after her MMR - there was visible swelling and soreness at the site for about 48 hours and she wouldn't put her foot on the ground but when the swelling disappeared she was absolutely fine

Hi,

What a trauma.
We saw the doctor on Wednesday morning (11.30am) who was quite shocked at how distressed he was and was fairly certain it wasn't a symptom expected from the MMR - she paediatrics at the hospital and got us an appointment at 1.30pm the same day.

We went to paeds who checked him over - all very traumatic - after seeing 4/5 doctors, taking bloods and a LONG wait - they said they were sure it was probabaly a bad reaction to the MMR and that as soon as the bloods came back we could go home (about 4pm).

The bloods came with with high (EMR?) levels and they said it did indicate an infection. He'd had a very high temp when he first arrived so al of a sudden we went from nearly going home to being sent for x-rays and having to wait for a 'bone doctor' to review the results.

Again all quite traumatic - I'm 6 months pregnant so couldn't be in with my son while they x-rayed him and he was in such pain it was the most upsetting thing I think I've ever experienced.

The x-ray results were clear and they brought the bone doctor over to discuss staying in over night to monitor him, just as he started to bear a little (I mean a little!) bit of weight on the leg.

They said we could either go home for the night and come back in for ward rounds (8am) the next morning or stay in. There was no way he'd have slept at the hospital -he was so distressed with being poked and prodded by the point that he wouldn't let anyone examine him anymore so we went home.

The next morning his leg was markedly better and they said they were fairly sure it wasn't any kind of joint infection (which they thought it might be the day before) and must be down to the MMR. But to be on the safe side could we bring him back the the Orthopaedic outpatients clinic the next morning for a final check. That was this morning. They seemed to think he was on the end - which he is thankfully but h's only bearing about 70% weight on that leg - and I'm concerned that as he's only been walking for three weeks that he'll learn to compensate with the other leg and won't learn to walk on it properly. They didn't seem overly concerned.

So - I guess we have to put it down to the MMR jab. I will certainly be thinkng twice about giving it to my DD when she arrives.

The frustrating thing is that after having seen so many doctors the chap that finally dishcarged us this morning acted like WE'D overreacted!! He made us feel like he'd had a normal reaction to a jab which was 'bound' to make his leg sore.

We had to remind him that our family GP and several paediatric doctors were worried about him two days earlier, and the blood results etc, and that we weren't just neurotic parents. They do make you feel like you imagined it all don't they?

Anyhow - he's on the mend so that's all that counts. I really didn't mean to start a should you/shouldn't you debate with the MMR - I just thought someone else out there may be able to let me know whether their child had experienced such painful side-effects.

Thanks for all your concern and responses.

sassybeast he'd had no visible sign of swelling or soreness at the injection sight whatsoever...

which is why the doc was concerned i think and sent us to the hospital.

I had a reaction to the Rubella jab when I ws 11 (back in the days when it was given seperately to girls at that age) and developed Poly Arthritis in my elbows.

It was extremely painful and took a few days to be diagnosed - I was also sent for tests at the hospital and Leukaemia was being considered at one point (my poor parents). The it was mentioned in passing by my mum that I'd recently had the rubella jab and it was resolved quite quickly after that. It eventually went away after a few weeks.

The problem I have with all of this, is that the reaction to the vaccine will not be recorded anywhere significant. The only two members of my immediate family to have MMR reacted seriously to it and one was in hospital immediately, and one in the next day. Nothing was ever recorded and so anybody researching the reactions to the vaccine wouldnt know about our two, or the many others. So how can it be truly researched long term?

You can record reactions yourself now. I think you're only meant to do it for drugs but I always tell people to do it for jabs too.

Just writing this so I remember to post the link later when I'm on computer rather than iPod!

I asked my surgery for a yellow card to record ds2's reaction to the jab and they had no idea what I was talking about.

"my son was treated by a homeopath"

lol. you mean he got better all on his own and you got extorted by a quack then.

Totally uncalled for mso.

Here's the Yellow Card reporting website. Hope he's getting better.

Fab that doesn't really inspire confidence does it! Did you manage to get them to record it. I think they forget they're meant to record any potential side effect. I know of kids who have ended up in ICU post jab and they still won't yellow card it.

Why is it uncalled for? Especially as someone who believes in water and magic is criticising vaccines.

I doubt very much anything was done.

Receptionists at the surgery can clearly diagnose if you need a GP but have no idea what a yellow card is.

DS1 ended up in hospital twice after his pre-school booster and the GP wasn't fussed. I asked the nurse to jab DS2 properly and she refused to jab him at all.