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Hib booster

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prufrock · 08/06/2003 10:25

We have just got a letter to say that dd (13m)needs a Hib booster. This will be the 4th vaccinne against Hib. Reading between the lines of the official leaflet, it appears the vaccinne used recently in the DTPHib injections was not effective enough, so they want to do everyone again in case they aren't covered. I am a bit loath to give dd yet another vaccine, just in case she was unlucky and the last 3 didn't work. Has anybody else been told they need this? Are there tests to check whether she is immunised or not?

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Angeliz · 06/08/2003 22:59

Ok i'll probably look like a moron and as soon as i add this i'll think "OOOHHHHHHH.....stupid cow i am!!"but what does ds and dh stnd for?????????Didn't get the booster after all by the way.i cancelled the app and on the day it would have been due my little one got chicken pox! Just a mild strain but it took the pressure off as i couldn't (or wouldn't) have her done under those circumstances! (feel a bit guilty for saying that!) Anyway i await the mysterious ds and dh ............

Mocha · 06/08/2003 23:06

DS= Dear/Darling Son
DH= Dear/Darling Husband
DP= Dear/Darling Partner
DD= Dear/Darling Daughter

Angeliz · 06/08/2003 23:15

Thanks Mocha.would never have got that!!!!!!!!

Veggie · 12/08/2003 16:18

I was told at the GP's surgery that all children that were vaccinated with the DTaP(due to a shortage of DTwP) should be given a booster. I was also told that my dd actually received the DTwP vaccine, but they recommended to give her a booster anyway, because "it would be good for her". I questioned that and the nurse told me that she was too busy to discuss this any further.
So I checked out the Internet for some more information and found a health body in Germany I contacted. They told me that the DTwP-Hib has been taken off the market in Germany, because it has been found to have too many side effects. Instead they are using the DTaP, which the NHS Helpline says is a possible cause for the recent Hib illnesses; yet in Germany they haven't had a rise of Hib cases. They suggested my dd should have a blood test to check her immunity for Hib. I don't want to put her through having a blood test and just hope she's got the immunity from the three jabs when she was a baby.
The information I received came from "Stiftung Kindergesundheit" and their e-mail address is: [email protected]

Jimjams · 12/08/2003 16:39

The DTwP is unpopular in many European countries and also places like Oz because the wP bit causes lots of seizures. The wP bit is the reason that DTP is recognised as one of the most dangerous vaccines (in the States the manufacturers of vaccine have to pay a certain amount per vaccine into a central pot to pay for vaccine damage compensation. They pay more if the vaccine is deemed more dangerous. DTP is one of the priciest for them). The aP is supposedly safer.
I question the point of giving P at all as it has supposedly mutated, and neither aP or wP works against the new strain. If I ever get round to it I'll write to someone in the d of H and ask.

I think I would have done the same as you veggie in your shoes.

terrytubbie · 17/08/2003 19:12

Well this is all news to me and if my dd (33 mths)) hadn't reacted to the HIBs booster I probably wouldn't be reading this.
Took her Friday am, Sat am the whole top of her arm is inflamed, red and very hot to the touch. It's now Sunday with no change.I rang NHS direct who informed me that these reactions are quite common now though no one advised me at the time.
My concern has always been the triple MMR which we decided not to allow, so how come there's nothing 'out there' alerting us to potential risks?
My dd isn't displaying any other symptoms though I'm getting worried now reading about reactions some days after the innoculation.

misdee · 17/08/2003 19:16

my dd1 had her hib booster just over a week ago. the main reaction she had was she very hyper for the rest of the day. big release of adrenalin i think.......

motherinferior · 17/08/2003 21:02

Oh dear, I don't know what to do...I'm usually pretty pro-vaccination, and dp even more so, but some of these are very alarming. Thanks as well, though, to people who posted about non-reaction...

...goes on pondering...

eidsvold · 17/08/2003 21:14

dd had her hib booster end of July - no reaction at all... well a little welling up of tears for about 30 seconds after the jab.

lisac · 17/08/2003 21:23

DD1 also had her hib booster a couple of weeks ago - no reaction at all (she didn't even react to the injection itself).

issywoo · 19/08/2003 15:28

thought you might find this interesting, i emailed the nhs 2 weeks ago and here's the reply - sorry its so long. still can't decide whether or not to give her the booster but when our second is born in march i can't say i would automatically go for the dtwp again.feel very undecided about it
Query:
my daughter has been called for a hib booster but i wanted to be clear that she really needs it and to check on what the vaccine is composed of.
the set of 3 jabs she received were infranrix - is that whole or acellular?
Does The vaccine contains HiB saccharides cultured on cows brains, crm protein, sodium chloride, aluminium hydroxide, mercury. is this true?
i am particularly worried about the cows brains connection re:cjd and the mercury.
Reply:
Thank you for your enquiry, and apologises for the delay in responding.

Close surveillance showed Hib disease was increasing before DTaP-Hib vaccine was introduced. So whichever, vaccine your child had (DTwP or DTaP) they will still be called to have a booster. However in answer to your question, Infranrix is the acellular (DTaP) vaccine.

There are several possible explanations for this increase in disease:

This is a short-term rise in disease and it may go down again naturally.

When Hib vaccine was first introduced, all children aged up to 4 years were vaccinated in a catch-up campaign and Hib disease was quickly brought under control. It may be that this catch-up effect is now wearing off and that a booster dose of Hib may need to be added to the childhood immunisation schedule.

Some of the new cases are in children who have not been vaccinated. So, herd immunity (when enough people have been vaccinated to stop circulation of a virus or bacterium, then those who have not been vaccinated are protected) may be lower now than was first achieved.

In 2000/2001, there was a widespread shortage in the supply of DTwP-Hib vaccine that is given to babies at 2,3 and 4 months to protect them against diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough and Hib. To make sure that children were not left unprotected, another vaccine - DTaP-Hib - was used instead. However, this particular vaccine, although it was perfectly safe, produced a lower protection against Hib than expected and this added to the increase in Hib that was already happening.

Bovine material (such as serum which comes from cows blood) is used in the early stages of production of the Hib booster vaccine, not in the ingredient. Purification processes are then designed to remove any bovine material used; no bovine material is used as an actual ingredient in any vaccine. The material used in the early stages carry no known risk of the transmission of BSE, and there is no evidence to link variant CJD to the use of any medicinal product.

The Hib vaccine used in the UK, does not contain and never has, thiomersal (mercury). It does not contain aluminium hydroxide and the carrier protein is tetanus toxide and not diphtheria CRM197. The diluent used with the Hib does contain Sodium Chloride and Sterile Saline Solution.

Please do not hesitate to contact us again with any further questions.

Thanks
NHS Immunisation Information Team

zebra · 19/08/2003 16:52

Is anyone else in Leicestershire finding that we are not getting called to have the booster? I don't know anybody locally who has been offered it. I am not worried about my 3yo DS; DH & I had HIB ourselves 2.5 years ago. We both had horrendous coughs, and DH went on to develop pneumonia, but DS was fine, so he's probably ok now, too. But can't be certain about DD's immunity. Sheis coming up to 2 in October. DH went to Surgery to ask, and was told that we would get a letter if our children needed the booster. No letter, but my kids got their infant HIb jabs right in the target dates (early 2000 & early 2002).

Pooh.

bayleaf · 19/08/2003 21:03

WE had ours last week in leicestershire

Melly · 19/08/2003 22:30

My dd had her hib booster yesterday, thankfully no reaction, although I did give her a dose of Calpol when she came home straight after the injection and another at 7 pm when she went to bed. She slept fine and has been her normal self today.

zoe1976 · 30/12/2006 09:53

hi i just got my letter though the both for hib booster and mec c booster (she has not had mec c jab yet) are they 2 injections she has also got mmr coming up soon and i worry about her having these all so close.

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