Any PG woman in thrid trimester had SF and survived ok

[whensmydayoff]

I keep asking this and have had little to no response .
I just want to see if it is possible to get SF in late PG and live!!
A lot of woman on the PG forum who are too scared to have the jab but living in fear of it (like me) need reassurance.

just the thread i wanted to post! im 35+5weeks and have no idea what to do! mind you not been offered it yet!

was adamant on not having it but few cases of swine flu at dd'1s pre school and getting close for comfort!

I personally have not had swine flu, or pg, yet but my neighbour who is 22 had it at about 35 weeks and 'survived' it, she and baby are doing well, baby is a couple of months old now and showing no signs of ill health, the worst for my neighbour was the cough which 3/4 months later is only just getting better. She did not have the swine flu vaccine, she caught it beginning of august.

thanks for that poppy! did it cause early delivery or anything?

No not at all, she was a few days late, 4 from my memory, normal vaginal birth, it was my neighbours 4th dc, it went fine and she was home the next day.

I have recently seen a new mum who had swine flu in the last weeks of pregnancy and nearly died (not scaremongering here - this is true). Apparently she is fortunate to have survived and may have some ongoing health issues as a result of it all.
Haven't met anyone else who has had swine flu while pregnant yet though so cannot say if she was just unlucky. The advice we are being given is that pregnant women are at higher risk of having a more severe form of swine flu which is why they are being advised to accept the vaccine.

jollypirate - do you mean the mum will have ongoing health issues or the baby?

Not me, but my midwife said she had another woman registered with her who had swine flu at 32 weeks pg and was fine. She didn't have any anti viral drugs either.

No - the Mum will have ongoing health issues they think. Baby is fine - early days for the Mum yet so I hope they are wrong.

I'm in my 3rd Trimester so interested in this as well.

I'm due to have my jab in Tuesday and have pretty much madfe my mind up that I will have it. But every day someone keeps coming up with scare stories to do with it!

Both my midwife and doctor have categorically advised me to have the jab as I suffer from reccurant chest infections. My midwife said that they had a lady up in our local hospital in her 3rd Trimester with swine flu and she had just lost her baby and they didn't expect the mother to survive more than a few days.

I find that very scary. I know my midwife well as she has looked after me for my previous 2 pregnancies as well and I don't think she meant to frighten me - she was just being honest.

gala do you know if the woman had any other health problems or is that all you know?

That is awful, could cry reading it

Would recommend SF vaccine, I was adamant not to get it, because of the thermisol and AS03 Adjuvant, then there was an outbreak of sf at my child's school and dr prescribed the antiviral, which I apparently have to take for 10 days (twice a day), and this only reduces illness by 1 day. Spoke to a consultant friend of mine and was recommended to the jab ASAP to start building immunity, so I went along got the jab, and the biggest symptom of all was a very slight sore arm, didn't stop me sleeping on that side.

I feel reassured that I can now enjoy the forthing coming xmas hols without worrying about catching sf and ending up in icu - which is what we're being told.

Please take the jab, a neurologist consultant friend has told me that there is a greater risk of getting GBS from a virus than the jab, two gyne consultant in St Mary's and UCH London have both had the jab and recommended I do the same, and my gyne consultant friend from US called last night to check I was getting the jab. When I was in UCH getting the jab, the midwife was brilliant - completely understood my worries but assured my of all the preg women she vaccinated (over 30 weeks only), the only complaint was a sore arm.

I really wasn't going to get the jab, to scared to really, and then I was 'forced' into making a very quick decision when the outbreak at my child's school happened. I am glad to have had the jab just in the nick of time.

Hope this helps somewhat..
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Thanks Julie999. I so wish I could do it and relax over xmas and New Year but I just can't.
It wouldn't give me the peace of mind it has given you.
Im so stressed about SF, it is making me miserable but unfortunately we have a family member damaged by a vaccine (not SF) and have done way too much research!!
Yes the risks are small and only happen to a few but once you know too much, it's a damned if you do damned if you don't situation.
Im glad you have found it helped you, Im jealous!! .

Whensmydayoff - I don't know if she had any underlying health issues but my midwife did say that they are seeing PG women get very poorly with swine flu - more so than other people - especially women who had no health problems beforehand - they are just PG!

Well - I had my jab this morning! It was like a production line in there - in and out in 30 seconds so very little time to ask questions. But I've already spoken to midwife and GP so not much more to ask.

Even though I was worried about having it I actually feela great sense of relief now I have. I wasn't expecting to feel this relief so I think I must have been more worried about getting swine flu than I thought.

I feel as if I can now concentrate on this pregnancy without worrying about falling ill and am pleased that the threat of swine flu is not hanging over me any more. And I'm not worried about any side effects anymore. I'm done with worrying!!

That's good gala, that's essentially what we need - peace of mind. Im too much of a worrier to ever give my knackered mind any peace!!

galadriel77 - i'm hoping thats how i feel, i was booked in to have it today but i chickened out and rebooked for 10th dec... thought i would make dh come with me.

i just hope i relax like you after it, i am so sick of reading info and especially horror stories on here about it, some of the threads are so misleading and some people really stretch the facts. i have seen so many errors about info people have posted after checking their sources but i can not be bothered to go into it.

i am just scared about having a reaction to it. i had an analyphaltic reaction to nuts i think two years ago, i have an epipen now but the source was never really found so i am anxious i may react. my gp said i wont and i will be fine.

i want to have the jab for my baby so he or she has the immunity for the first 6 weeks of their life and hopefully by then it will be calming down again, i'm due the end of jan and apparently jan will be the peak.

It would be SOOOOO helpful if someone, somewhere could do a proper survey of preg women across the UK saying who's had SF in preg, during which trimester, with or without jab, what was the gravity of their symptoms, etc etc.

I am only 20 wks' preg but think I may have had SF last week - am pretty sure it's what knocked DH out for half the week, and I got sick with a milder version which I managed to keep under control with my hippy approach to home medicine (involving port, manuka honey and lemon juice - sounds ridiculous but it bloody works!! )

So now I want to get a test to see whether I am immune, as I don't want the jab. It annoys me that the only figures available are for the extreme reactions and there are no figures to give the whole picture of how pg women (or others, for that matter) are responding to flu. Without that info it's a tough job to not react fearfully to the scarier stories.

MrsMerryHenry - you mean you can get a test to see if you are immune? not heard that, tell me more please and from where?

We are all short of data but surely it's useful information just knowing that the people who do have access to the best data have come to the conclusion that pregnant women should be vaccinated? There will be people trying to get exactly the information you're asking for and it's possible that at some point the advice may change when they get more, but pregnant women being present in the hospitalised group in numbers disproportionate to their numbers in the community must be part of the reason for the vaccination suggestion.

It is frustrating not just being able to get a test done, it would set so many people's minds at rest one way or the other. Maybe there will be commercially viable cheap tests eventually though.

devotion, I'm sure I've heard of this but don't know how to get it...

ThirtyDrawers - yes, it's useful, but it's not enough. Were this a tried and tested vaccination it would be easier for people like me to accept that conclusion, but there are so many questions hanging over the whole issue of vaccination for SF - whether for preg women or not - that it's simply not enough to be presented with partial data, not if you want to make a well-informed decision.

Devotion - this might help you a little. This situation is different and I am no medical expert or anything.

One of my twin boys has a peanut allergy. Both twins have also tested positive for dairy and milk allergies. They are mild and not anaphalactic.

The GP surgery did not want to give them any flu jabs after this was found out, but their consultant wrote to them and told them it was ok. For a couple of years they had 2 smaller doses of seasonal flu jabs just in case.

All the research I have done with regard to the eggs is that it is only a risk if you have anaphalactic reactions to eggs.

They had the swine flu jab yesterday and have again not reacted. They had a half dose, not due to allergies but because that is what they are advised for under 10s due to it giving them better immunity.

The jabs are only cultured in eggs and I think don't actually contain egg. So if you are usually ok with eggs I wouldn't worry too much. If you are worried they may agree to 2 smaller doses.

As I said this is only my experience. Its a horrible decision to have to make, especially on behalf of my small and your unborn children. It was made easier for me because mine have the seasonal jab every year.

mumto3boys - thank you for message, it really helped relax me.

my gp did try to comfort saying it was only a concern of i was allergic to egg and i eat eggs all the time.

i know i have just got my knickers in such a twist over this. i have researched so much into this and sick if reading about it.

everytime i hear a horror sorry about it i look at the source and its always taken out of context and hearing about a friend of a friend stories just dont work for me. they are usually rubbish!

so with all the info that is available to me from the world health organisation, Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency, NCT, Baby expert, NHS direct etc... they all give me enough info to come to a decision that getting the jab is the best decision for me and my baby. i am not 100% happy about getting such a new vaccine but i am also not happy to take any risks of getting really ill or dying in the next few months.

mumto3boys, Eggs are the least of the worries surrounding vaccines. There are far more dangerous chemicals to worry about.

We don't know (yet)how a fetus is going to react to these chemicals even if they are in small doses.

Just google 'aluminium in vaccines'.

Im not trying to scare you with your boys, they are here infront of you and fine. Aluminium is in all vaccines and builds up in the body as it can't be secreted when injected. These little babies still in the womb have got this then the 2,3 and 4 month injections to look forward to.....Too much? we'll find out.

If anyone has had the vaccine whilst PG, do the baby's a favour, don't rush and get those other vaccines at 2,3 & 4 months. They will be perfectly fine with 3, 6 and 9 or even later and more spaced out. This gives their little bodies more of a chance to deal with all the chemicals and still gives the same immunity. You can even do it one year between each vaccine and it works.

I addressed my message to devotion as I was discussin her concerns with regard to allergies, rather than your concerns with the jab on the whole.

I am aware of the worries with regard to this jab, but for me, having watched my child have a full cardiac and respiratory arrest from an asthma attack whilst otherwise well, I'm not risking one bought on by swine flu.

I have not addressed the pregnancy issue itself, as I know nothing about jabs in pregnancy and have not researched it. However, I do know a thing or two about allergies and was hoping to help devotion with her worries.

Devotion, I'm glad that helped a bit.

Sorry, ive turned this back into a vaccine debate haven't I?

Thats not what I wanted, Im ranting now!

I just wanted the same as Mrsmerrymen, to hear a fuller story on swine flu and PG woman.

The old saying 'love is like the measles, we all have to go through it' tells a story doesn't it.
All children got it, it was like chicken pox to us. Your mum had it, your gran had it, your entire family of generations past had it. They have natural life long immunity - something we will never know. Vaccines only last 20 years averagely. Wait until we are all getting it as adults!

When they decided on vaccine suddenly the message was Measles - The Killer Disease! A huge campaign was launched to get mass vaccination out there and our terrified mothers and grandmothers went running to the doctors!!!

Watch chicken pox become a child killer like no other!

My point is, im worried that we are purposely being fed the bad and ugly and not given the full facts in order to mass vaccinate, it wouldn't work other wise.

and i crossed over there mumto3boys and didn't see your reply .

You can still get a reaction with the chemicals, not just the eggs, if your prone is what I mean.