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a girl has died after being given cervarix

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stuffitllllama · 28/09/2009 19:31

here

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MamaG · 29/09/2009 10:11

God how awful

MarquesDeLeon · 29/09/2009 10:20

I have just found a private doctor who does Gardasil. I know there have been reactions to that one too but I don't trust this government with my family's healthcare. The lies and cover ups are all too frequent.

nightcat · 29/09/2009 11:00

sure, they will find some "reason" poor girl died of and it won't be the vax...

stuffitllllama · 29/09/2009 11:27

just read they have had two thousand reports of reactions including 400 of anaphylactic shock

did anyone know that before? i didn't know that, i'd like to know 2000 out of how many, because haven't they only just started the big programme, and that means there can't have been that many before, so 2000 would mean a lot

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CuntWhacker · 29/09/2009 12:16

Bloody hell. that is shocking

claricebeansmum · 29/09/2009 12:19

As I understand it, this is the large scale trial for cervarix.

alwayslookingforanswers · 29/09/2009 12:21

stuff - the times article linked to say that 1.4 million jabs have been given so far.

BertieBotts · 29/09/2009 12:29

My friend went to that school, and her sister is 15 and would still be there if her family had not moved.

tatt · 29/09/2009 13:49

1.4 million doeses given, 2000 recorded reactions, 400 or so anaphylactic and one death. Reactions are almost certainly under-reported but serious reactions are more likely to be reported, it's usually minor ones that aren't. If the reaction does what it is claimed there will be thousands of deaths avoided each year.

Offhand I don't know how many 14 year olds die unexpectedly each year and it would take too much effort to find out. But it's not unknown for teenagers to die of unrecognised heart problems. It's also possible that, as had been suggested, it was an anaphylactic reaction. It's possible it was not recognised as such initially and not treated promptly. Adrenaline doesn't aways work but something (most probably adrenaline followed by steroids) did for the other 400 cases. It works best if given promptly. This death may be as much a failure of medical care as a reaction to the vaccine.

tatt · 29/09/2009 13:51

sorry meant if the vaccine does what is claimed.

stuffitllllama · 29/09/2009 13:55

i know, i think they should stop giving it in schools straight away, it's just terrible

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notgettinganyyounger · 29/09/2009 13:58

The vaccine given in this country is a cheaper version of that which is given abroad. (Alledgedly)

I refused to let my DD have it at this time, because i wanted to see what the more about any reactions and wanted to delve further into the research of this vaccine.

Poor girl, and how dreadful for her family, if her death is connected to the vaccine. They were probably just following the government advice.

stuffitllllama · 29/09/2009 14:11

i mean, why did they ever think they could give it out in schools if there can be this kind of reaction?

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notgettinganyyounger · 29/09/2009 14:12

The whole programme should be stopped in its tracks today. A very detailed investigation should take place to establish exactly what has happend before they think about resuming it..
The take-up will be low from now onwards anyway.

stuffitllllama · 29/09/2009 14:34

I know, it should be in GPs surgeries i think, or even hospitals, because of the risk of anaphylactic shock. The lack of medical care is probably a big factor. Although, someone said, you can't always manage it anyway so girls could still die if it was given in hospital.

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moyasmum · 29/09/2009 15:11

dd2 (12) is one of two in her year who fainted at their innoculation.
In her sisters year(15)they were dropping like flies.
I think hysteria (particularly with the older girls) was playing a big part here.I believe she will carry on with the other 2 jabs, and the nurses have already talked to her about how they can do it to reduce stress ,which is what i beleive caused the faint( she fainted the first and last time she gave blood).

I would be interested to see if a reason for this girls reaction can be found.

Also remember why our girls are being innocualated , in a healthy girl the damage that STDs can do is a huge problem.

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stuffitllllama · 29/09/2009 18:34

The thing that gets me is that I didn't know that it hadn't been tested on some groups, I didn't know there had been so many anaphylactic reactions, they just don't tell you these things so you can't make an informed decision. They just say "oh it's all scaremongering everything is fine".

It makes you think, well what else are they not telling us. Is anyone going to believe them when they say this wasn't the vaccine, or this was just a rogue batch?

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ladysoandso · 29/09/2009 18:59

Hi. My first post on mumsnet.

Im thrilled to find so many like minded mums here. I feel like the anti vaccine leper.

Just heard the health chief for Coventry saying there was no reason why others should delay vaccinations.

This makes me so mad. A few days delay until the findings are announced could possibly save the life of another girl. But no. The vaccine juggernaut has to roll on.

stuffitllllama · 30/09/2009 07:35

welcome to mumsnet anti-vaccine leper lady

do not be complacent -- there are many, many here who will disagree with you very forcefully as well as those of us who'll agree

still, onward and upward, there are posters here who've done so much research it's tremendously helpful

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2shoes · 30/09/2009 07:53

well this has made my mind up , dd won't be having it. I am lucky hers is delayed anyway, so I can change my mind, but not worth the risk in my mind, if any thing happened to her, she would just be a "oh it doesn't matter , she had underlying health issues"

stuffitllllama · 30/09/2009 08:23

twoshoes, it hasn't been tested on immune impaired people, does this fit your daughter?

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Portofino · 30/09/2009 08:26

It says on the BBC this morning that the girl had a serious underlying health condition and that it was this, rather than the vaccine, which caused her death.

stuffitllllama · 30/09/2009 08:52

they would say that

the school says she had no health problems at all, bit worrying for everyone out there with no symptoms of a life-threatening condition that you don't know you've got until you've had the vaccine, and then you just die

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