Urgent need your opinions on my DS and mine & DH's health its going from bad to worse it seems

[hereidrawtheline]

Part of this I have copied & pasted from another thread to save retyping.

I have posted several threads over the last week about DS - long story short - fever off and on since last Sunday, cough since last Thursday, tummy ache since Saturday - on which day me and DH came down with same virus apparently. Been to see GP now 3 times and out of hours doctor once. This happened a couple of hours ago:

I am so upset. A while ago DS sat on his potty and did a wee and poo and he stood up and the liquid was crimson red - blood. We took him and potty contents to GP - phoned first thinking they might want to come to us as we are clearly contagious but our bitch horrible evil GP said to come to her (she isnt horrible for that she is just always horrible)

Anyway she looked at it and said "oh yes, blood" and sent us away with some pots for him to pee and poo in, to drop off to the surgery tomorrow morning, results 3 days after that! I just dont feel like they are taking us seriously at all. I hate my GP. We all have a bad flu, it isnt getting better, now DS has peed blood and surely something else should happen. I am so upset. I just got home from GP and phoned NHS direct, they are about to call me back. I just dont know what to do.

Our area doesnt have an emergency care unit. So it is A&E or GP and GP is just bizarrely uninterested. But I know the flu advice is not to go to A&E, understandable! I will see what the NHS Direct nurse says when she phones back.

I really need someone to talk to me about this and give me some perspective so I will bump til someone sees it, sorry but I have never seen DS's wee like that it has really upset me after a week of illness & tummy aches to just be sent home.

I should say he did eat a couple of pieces of beetroot last night but he has eaten it before (without it turning his wee red) and it was around 7:30 last night and he has done many many wees since then. So I think it being caused by the beetroot.

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Right just spoke to nhs direct nurse who said she thought the beetroot causing it was unlikely as it wasnt that much, and it was the better part of 24 hrs ago, the red was so dark crimson etc. She said we could take him to A&E now or wait and see what his next wee is like. Meanwhile he seems ok at the moment, he is playing outside with DH. His mood is one minute fine the next minute angry and throwing things and hitting which he hasnt done in ages. DH and I have the flu. What should I do?

ugh I wish I had asked her to dip test it there. The thing is she is so bad and she really clearly thinks I am beyond pond scum and has done since DS was born and I had PND (which I have been recovered since he was 8 months) she is just awful and every time I try to communicate with her at all, friendly, non confrontational, just normal back and forth between doctor and patient she just gets so bitchy I just leave it. She is kind of aggressive actually.

I take DS and me and DH to the other doctor in the practise but he wasnt in today and on days like that you have to see her.

I am not being dramatic I really do not think she should be allowed to practise (not just this incident by the way this is in about 6 years of "knowing" her - she is dangerously uninterested). She is the worst doctor I have ever had the misfortune to know. And I respect the profession.

Ah well thank you for your comfort I am sure it is fine. Its just terrible when you cant trust your doctor at all. He has been sick over a week now and this was just the icing on the cake today, clearly it scared me. I am going to bed now though. Thanks.

if wee was mixed with poo they can't test the wee. has to be a clean catch.

Hi i just want to say that i know exactly how you are feeling, nearly 3 months ago the same thing happened to my ds. He had been unwell for a week with a very high temperature and off his food, very lethargic and just not his usual self. He just started to pick up when i noticed lots of blood in his nappy. I totally panicked and phoned up NHS and demanded that he be seen, it was a Sunday evening. We were told to go to the OOH GP. He said he reckoned it was a urine infection and to try to get a sample for testing. I suffer from depression and health anxiety so got myself worked up into a terrible state imagining all kinds of awful things.

Anyway the urine sample came back clear and the GP referrred my ds for a scan on his kidneys and a week later we had it done. It showed a slight spot of inflammation on his right kidney, so thats where the blood had come from. The doctor doing the scan said that it was nothing to worry about and that it was probably caused by an infection. I was so relieved when he said that! We are waitnig to see a kidney specialist and they might want to do another scan to check that the inflammation is healing.

I hope your ds is feeling better soon and that you can get some answers as i know how awful the waiting about can be.

Hey Herei - just stumbled across this - hope you are all ok. I found out that the beetroot wee is called beeturia and that it doesnt take that long to show in the urine - about 5hrs. Now that isnt very comforting is it, as he ate it 21hrs before the wee. There is always the walk in centre in my town - its at the bottom of North Hill kind of opposite the octagon centre.

xxx

just wondering how you all are today?

if you dip a urine sample, blood shows as blood ( the little coloured squares on the strip change colours to correspond to what is in the wee ) it does not show as protein , protein has its own square , beetroot has no square ! even clear wee can contain microscopic blood and htis will show up on a dipstick , sorry your gp didn't dip the original sample but still might be worth asking for a sample to be tested.

hi there thanks for asking after us.

I am really really sick. couldnt sleep last night, or I was sleeping so shallowly it felt like I wasnt sleeping at all. I did dream my DS and my nephew were the same person and I couldnt work out if I was their Mother or Aunt. (DN died of cancer years ago)I havent had one of those dreams in about a year.

At around 1 am out of desperation I took a sleeping pill which knocked me out. I just woke up at 11:30. I feel like death. I mean I feel so fluey. My neck & shoulders hurt, my nose is stuffed up, my head hurts, my throat hurts, my back hurts. Really its awful.

DH got a urine sample from DS but it was supposed to be in to our GP's by 11 and he forgot.

Now I have to decide what to do both for DS and myself. DH is ok, a bit under the weather feeling but not knocked out like I am.

Thanks for the info pooter about the beetroot. It isnt what I wanted to hear, no, big difference between 5 and 21 hrs isnt it.

I am thinking like a dinasaour, really slowly and not very efficiently. Tell me what to do.

DS just went down for a nap. When he wakes up I could have DH take him to the walk in centre in Pooter's town. I want to be with him but right now I am dizzy just standing up. So what do I do about me?

you need rest, fluids and paracetamol. is your breathing OK? I think it's sensible for your DH to take your DS to the walk-in.

breathing is a bit raspy & coughy. What are walk in centres like? Are they like mini-hospitals? Will they be able to really look into what is going on with DS or will they just be like the GP?

they are probably more like the GP's than hospitals, I think they probably have better equipment though than GPs, as they seem eg. to have equipment to check SATs. They don't always have a GP though, sometimes they are nurse led (usually quite senior nurses, nurse prescribers, that sort of thing). given you fairly recently had pneumonia, might not be a bad idea for you to go with and get your chest checked too....

You really have been through it, athough I'm sure the anxiety is making you feel worse. In my experience the walk in centre is better than the GP practice. I hope you get an answer today as I'm sure all will be ok, than FINALLY you can some rest/sleep without having to worry so much.

thanks

We are going to the walk in today as soon as DS wakes from his nap. I think I will go along too as I coughed up some phlegm and as you said TC I had pneumonia not long ago so that is a bit of a worry. But mainly I will just be very grateful to get DS checked out sooner rather than later.

Going to go lay down again I am so sleepy! I do not have a fever though so that rules out swine flu

I'm sorry that you are still feeling so ropey. I hope the walk in centre can give you reassurance.

thanks We are getting ready to leave to go there now. I'll let you know how it goes. We are such a family of wrecks!! DH has an existing lung disease that he has had since he was 3 and his breathing has got horrible in the last few days. So I am worried about him too. I know it must sound unlikely all this but I swear it isnt made up! I think I must have been conceived on lay lines or something!

HereIdrawtheline - I have to say that your doctor would have sent your DS to the hospital if his urine was so full of blood - I think the term is Heamaurea or something like that but can be a sign of really scarey things but often people visit the GP in a panic expecting the GP to panic when the GP knows that there is no need to panic so they feel that they are not being taken seriously.

I just seem to remember your landlady being the devil incarnate too and how you got overwraught and flustered about her.

Sometimes you should listen to the doctor and take their advice - she has not singled you out to be horrible to. And I am sure that every doctor has done something that would be classed as negligence - ours passed my friends sons eye test when he is almost blind - but I wouldn't not go to him, doctors are humans too you know.

So maybe you shouldn't swap to the one in your nearest village afterall!

Madame - the GP said it was blood. We didnt mention the beetroot thing to her because we hadnt connected it yet - we saw her within 20 mins of him doing the wee. She looked at it and said "oh yes, blood" and sent us away with sample pots. She is a horrible GP who most of the village think should not be allowed to practise.

We went to the walk in clinic today for all 3 of us! DS's urine was checked and it was clear of blood so it seems like it was the beetroot though I am shocked it was so dark so much later but there you go there is no other explanation.

DH has a chest infection I have a virus as expected I am just stupidly grateful DS hasnt got blood in his urine.

Our GP is really horrible and has a history of major negligence with not just us! Most of the people I know here flat out refuse to see her. I saw her once in a terrible state and she wouldnt even listen to my chest - just said I had a virus. Within 6 hours I had been taken to hospital in an ambulance with pneumonia.

wow 2 people in a year have been found wanting by me, I must be a very harsh critic! God the amount of people who post on here about every little thing that annoys them! Anyway I dont really need to explain myself to you, I did in the last post out of general conversation because you brought up a relevant point but tbh you bringing up the landlady thing from last summer is quite strange. I didnt realise if more than one person were unpleasant to you within such a close amount of time you must be irrational.

I often listen to my GP and take his advice. This is the one I had to go to as mine was not in.

Madame, I was thinking, I had a different username at the time that happened with my landlady, and it got me thinking and I have realised who you are & I have met you in RL. I must say its strange you seem to be wanting to have a go at me. Oh well.

Glad to hear you and your family have a firm diagnosis, enjoy the peace of mind and rest.

I think General Health is a strange place to have a go at someone MC, although you both obviously have history.

we dont have history, we have just met about a year ago! So I am very confused but oh well.

but anyway back to the point, thank you tiredsville I am really happy we have been told whats what and can relax now with at least not worrying there is something sinister in DS's wee!

No history at all - I have met hereidrawtheline once and then she posted heatedly about her landlady and how she had stopped her following her dream career of being a childminder - when in fact the OP wouldn't have got insurance it being a rented house for childminding and her landlady wasn't being such an evil cow and the vitreol directed at her wasn't warranted to such a degree.

In that instance it was realised by others, not just myself, that the Op had overreacted and been really scathing about something that was not done on purpose and that could have been completely avoided if she had actually done a little research to begin with before starting the training for the dream job.

What I am actually saying - and I am not having a go at you at all - is maybe you shouldn't get so worked up over things and let the fingers of paranoia creep in - last time your landlady was against you, now the doctor - and as I am pointing this out to you - now me too!

And if I hadn't have met her I wouldn't have remembered the incident at all - I am not someone with a habit of remembering things so well but I do remember how upset she was at me for pointing out that she should have looked into the legal implications of her being in rented accomodation before she started any formal training, if there is such a thing, to be a childminder.

I am fairly gobsmacked at your whole thing, I am not paranoid for gods sake and you are putting words into my mouth over a very obscure thing that happened almost a year ago! get a life!

I am not going to argue or justify myself here this is silly! I have a right to have an opinion about my GP without being irrational and since you have such a strange memory for details concerning me you should remember that wrt to the landlady it was one issue amongst many such as her going through our private storage areas, taking the car space we paid for for herself, and letting herself in to our house without permission! Please spare me if you dont think that was all nuts, I really cant care!