I have a slight problem if there's anyone around who knows about renal conditions.

[scrooged]

I have had pain for a couple of days, I went to the GP yesterday and he sent me for an abdo X-Ray and an urgent ultrasound (which can't be done until Thursday). The urine sample I took in was clear (looked very thick to me), however, I'm drinking but very little is coming out IYKWIM. My eyes feel like they are going to pop out, I have no fever, just lots of pain. What else can I do bar phoning NHS redirect?

TIA.

Haa. Not pregnant. You have to have sex right? I don't believe in the immaculate conception, had no angels come to visit in the night.

Crstal-type stuff - what do you mean. grit?

No, it glistens, no stones or grit. It's clear and glistens in the loo.

Urinary tract infections are a serious health problem affecting millions of people each year.

Infections of the urinary tract are the second most common type of infection in the body. Urinary tract infections (UTIs) account for about 8.3 million doctor visits each year.* Women are especially prone to UTIs for reasons that are not yet well understood. One woman in five develops a UTI during her lifetime. UTIs in men are not as common as in women but can be very serious when they do occur.
*Ambulatory Care Visits to Physician Offices, Hospital Outpatient Departments, and Emergency Departments: United States, 1999?2000. Vital and Health Statistics. Series 13, No. 157. Hyattsville, MD: National Center for Health Statistics, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, U.S. Dept. of Health and Human Services; September 2004.

The urinary system consists of the kidneys, ureters, bladder, and urethra. The key elements in the system are the kidneys, a pair of purplish-brown organs located below the ribs toward the middle of the back. The kidneys remove excess liquid and wastes from the blood in the form of urine, keep a stable balance of salts and other substances in the blood, and produce a hormone that aids the formation of red blood cells. Narrow tubes called ureters carry urine from the kidneys to the bladder, a sack-like organ in the lower abdomen. Urine is stored in the bladder and emptied through the urethra.

The average adult passes about a quart and a half of urine each day. The amount of urine varies, depending on the fluids and foods a person consumes. The volume formed at night is about half that formed in the daytime.

I don't think it's a UTI. There's no fever, no blood in urine. Just pain and not much wee (oh, and funny vision).

Gosh you are now peeing tiny diamonds.

Wonderful!

When do you think you can see a doctor?

What is cystitis?

Cystitis is an infection of the bladder, but the term is often used indiscriminately and covers a range of infections and irritations in the lower urinary system. It causes burning sensations during urination and a frequent need to urinate.

How do you get cystitis?

Infection from intestinal bacteria is by far the most frequent cause of cystitis, especially among women, who have a very short urethra (the tube through which the urine passes from the bladder to the outside). Normally, urine is sterile (there are no micro-organisms such as bacteria present). Between 20 to 40 per cent of women will get cystitis in their lifetime.

However, it is possible to have bacteria in the bladder without having any symptoms (especially in the elderly). There can be several reasons for the bacteria settling in the bladder. Inadequate emptying resulting in stagnation of urine may lead to infection. This may be caused by some drugs (for example, antidepressants), immobility, abnormal bladder control and constipation. Even the small drop which is always left behind may contain bacteria. Conditions that may make it easier for the bacteria to travel through the urethra include those listed below.

Sorry will be serious.

If I were anywhere near Derby I would offer to come and sit.

If you haven't a fever that has to be good. I can't work out what is wrong with you though.

lol! I could sell them and pay the school fees

I've just googled. Oh dear .

Reduced urine output and problems with vision are both associated with kidney problems scrooged. Please, at least ring nhs direct.

I could take ds with me tomorrow morning and keep off the fluids until then but if it is an infection this won't help.

The wee's more warm then stinging. Not normal warm, a bit hotter. Doesn't hurt and not irritated like cystitis.

I don't know what's wrong. My mum has some sort of problem, her's don't drain so she has had a stent put in.

I'll look on their website first.

yes tis sounding like kidney stones possibly.

I think you need to ring the oOH and ask what your options are. Explain about ds as well. Mine are lovely and come out at night for me - but I do live right by the hospital!

Let us know how you get on, hope you are not in too much pain tonight.

Ring them!

Scrooged - I am a nephrologist ( kidney doctor) and I feel that you are really not going to get an answer to this over the internet. I think you need your urine testing ; your blood pressure checked and you blood tests checked along with a tummy exam. It could be nothing but some of hte things you are saying make it worrisome to me.,

Would it be really dangerous to leave it until tomorrow morning?

Thankyou all by the way.

Ooh gosh you got a real specialist - listen to her!! Well done Wobbly.

Ok. I'll give NHS redirect a ring. The'll tell me to go to A&E won't they? Darn!

thankyou

Good luck! Let us know how you get on.

"We are exceptionally busy and if it is non-urgent we aim to call you back in approx 4 hours time" Is it urgent?

Ok, well in the absence of Wobblypig, I'm happy to take over in the medical role

It's, let me see, 10.30pmish.

What time will you be able to get there in the morn?

I would be worried enough to want to at least talk to someone tonight if it were me, but maybe not sit in a crowded A&E with a child in tow. If you felt very ill I would say definitely go, but as you are coping ok and have recently seen someone I'd not panic.

Is it worth ringing the Out of hours and just asking for a word for reassurance, as you're worried about your urine output and blurred vision?

Sometimes you get a very sensible soul who makes you feel Ok about waiting till morning. But do go in as early as you can tomorrow - you'll get seen quick if it's around 4 or 5 am, all the malingerers have long since given up by that time!!

ds will be up at 8am (ish, probably earlier). I can't get through to the out of hours, I have to go through NHS redirect. urine output is slightly increasing (not the amount, just the frequency), head feels very odd and my eyes want to pop out. Do I avoid more fluid as not to overload or drink more incase it's an infection/cystitis/stone?

He won't mind if I wake him up but he'll worry and be upset.