Fruity is in the pie of the beholder - 10 / 10 thread

[FrannyandZooey]

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Hi TooTicky.
I don't think you can give him the choice, he's too young.

Dd1 is 7 and if it was her, I would explian very loosley what needed to be done, and say that it needed to be done so that her eye owuld be better.
And that it will be much better afterwatds.

for both of you though.

My tiny neice is so cute, and she barely cries . We tried to go fr a walk but got too wet and had cake insrtead.

Oh TooT how worrying for you I really wish you didn't have to make that decision.

DD's eye problems are nowhere near as severe but we will be faced with an op at some point, probably in about 6 months or so when she will be somewhere between 4.6 and 5. We are going to go ahead with the op and this is why - she has a squint, her glasses and patching have improved it but will not eliminate it completely. She will always be cross eyed unless it's surgically corrected. IMHO it is better for dd to have the op and not have to live with that. She will always need glasses to correct her long sight and I would like her to have the option of contact lenses when she's older should she so wish. I just want her to have eyes that look like everyone else's and work like everyone elses.

However I do appreciate that your ds's problems are different. And I do fully expect to have a major wobble when the time actually comes.

I would talk to your ds and see how he feels about it, but ultimately I wouldn't leave the decision to him, at 6 he's a bit too young to understand the implications, imvho.

I don't think you should take his feelings into account. I think if you decide to have the op, then you do good talking about, some positive spin, masses of bribery and making okay stuff. I think, if you decide to do it, then it's non-negotiable and you have to pretend to be decisive and safe-making iyswim.

I also think you should probably do it TooT, but actually that's got absolutely nothing to do with me has it? Sorry.

It's is all just horrid though, and I am sorry for you and ds2.

I went away, and I've been trying to work and entertain my v. bored and wet children, though volleyball player has been about this week so that is good. DS1 said to me yesterday ' I'm really looking forward to going back to school. I want to see people. It's much more interesting there'

'Nonsense' I cried. 'Now hurry up and finish tidying up the sitting room.'

Sorry to hear you have a difficult decision to make. I agree with franny and 100 that you can't let him make that decision. talking about it is good, but only once you've decided, and only to comfort and reassure and explain. I wouldn't let him know pros and cons and sides and how tricky it is though, that's too anxiety inducing and out of his control. I also think it sounds like it's worth a shot to have better vision. But can totally understand your dilemma and how you must be feeling.

TooT it sounds like a very difficult decision. I also think if 'twere me I would not be leaving the choice up to DS.

I am in an anti-cake zone.

I ate a huge piece at lunchtime and then a large cookie later on, have decided this evening that it is no good.

However, I also managed to fit in

1/2 punnet rasps
Fruit salad
Fennel
Runner beans
Chard
Baby corn

OB join me in being sensible for a few days (weeks?!)

UR hello

I just felt I hadn;t said it lately

BBBee it's nice you are around lots

Franny glad to hear DS2 has happier skin...have you worked out mystery cream sender yet?

Hello to everyone else

I am feeling in the mood for travelling to far flung places. No chance though.

quite inspired 100. I shall try that approach with DH when he moans of boredom

Marie Celeste eh Lully?? UR and I have been doing our level best to keep some level of gibberish up through the afternoon. Normally we can count on TF to be on here skiving off but what with the part time thing... tsk.

Hey! I won £50 on premium bonds! 1st time ever! that combined with car people not noticing honking great dent i put in the door of the courtesy car leaves me £300 better off than i thought i was.

I was not at work today

Can you tell?

yes to sensible for a few weeks. xcept weekends. have 2 festivals in the offing. will be nun like in the week though. Assuming nuns only eat salad and don't like stella / vino.

Have feeling have lost about 1/2 an oz.

DH sulking because I put new bedding on bed without washing first. He is scared of factory dust.......

oh yeah, the list...

2x bananas
chickpea / pot / cauli/ spinach curry
pepper
carrot

7 I reckon.

Tescorino has an offer on del monte (don't tell me they are evil TooT, I can't hear you!) raspberry smoothie ice lollies. They are unbelieveably good. 96 calories. makes me not want other worse items. I am going to stock pile them next week as I suspect at full price they might make me wince.

if no op now when else would it be (or is the answer now or never??) i would do it too, if it works then the sooner the better and if not then you haven't got it always hanging around as a possibility. quite different but ds had a hernia op at 9m, i felt so helpless and evilly responsible.

watercress
veg burger
lettuce
much cucumber (i have bought 3 by mistake)
capers and sundried toms again
25min walk, v windy my hair is a thicket.

oh fishie - capers why do I never remember to buy capers.

toot - oh dear toot - how perfectly terrible for you - this sounds truly horrid. Agree wiht you and others about presenting it as a done deal. I would also do lots of how clever the docotrs are and how they have done this lots before. I would probably talk about my cervical suture too. I might hint that it won't be very nice but you will be htere the whole time. I would then say how brave they are and how I will buy them and a bag of doughnuts. But TBH toot you will be brilliant at this - I know you will. I understanad how going through it on here straightens it out so keep posting.

Georgia has calmed down and I am keeping off the georgia / russia threads as was too much. DPs cousin injured but everyone else safe.

Nice to see you agian 100. I hope boco has dried out and baby bot is happy again.

Has anyone read 'wife in teh north' i have enjoyed it very much and i cried.

I went to stay with an old friend from school who now lives in a very naice part of Oxford.

Her BF opened the fridge and said 'oh FGS we've run out of capers'in a v agitated tone.

We fell about cackling, a middle class disaster of epic proportions.

Hmm. That lost a little something in translation. It was funny. honest.

FK - just what does your sensibleness involve? What are you giving up?

I have struck upon a whizzo idea.

My problem is the demon booze. BUT if I go to the pub with DH every evening immediately after work and have one skinny G&T I feel I have socialised, and drunk and by the time I get home the gap has been long enough I can live without another one. I hate feeling cheated out of something fun you see.

I don't really eat much chocolate or other stuff. I have m moments but they are not the things making me lardy.

BBBee sorry to hear about DH's cousin but yes good that things are settling down now..although I suppose it all remains precarious for some time

OsBa I meant cake, really and cookies, and biscuits, and other carby sugary fayre.

I don;t drink much now, really, so can;lt help on that one.

tsk. no good. need fellow alcoholic to be strong with.

don't send me to the support thread, i won't go, you can't make me.

tsk. no good. need fellow alcoholic to be strong with.

don't send me to the support thread, i won't go, you can't make me.

see - i mean it

early night for OsBa. xx

BBee - sorry to hear about Georgia, but pleased to hear that everyone is safe, hope cousin not too badly injured.

I used to read her blog! Before the book deal, but only just before. It was so beautifully written, so I kept reading it, and I thought how extraordinary that she could write like this. Then it transpired she was a journalist. I haven't read the book though, the blog used to be good, v. raw. I identified with lots of it. I think I even posted on her blog telling her to move back to London, I think I might have urged her to do this quite often.

Oh shitit I just did that thing where you post on the wrong thread by accident, and it was a really bad place to post a really flippantly stupid thing and I'm cringing, someone all upset and everything and I tried to flog them a budgie for a tenner because I thought it was the last text message thread.

Oh no Boco. Am sure if people know it is a mistake, they'll understand.

Sorry to hear about BBBee's DH's cousin

I love capers. DS asks for them when we are in the grocery store.

Olives
Tomatoes (2)
1/2 apple
bean salad
pineapple (2)
juice
melon
raisins
dried fruit

I think I did 10 again

thanks everyone for being kind. You are my favourite little corner of the huge WWW.

Boco - I read that thing you are cringing about and it didn;t come across as anything more than a genuine mistake. She was really nice about it and then you were so genuine and honest (as ever) about yourself that I am sure it was instantly forgotton.

These clumsy msnet disaters haunt you - I should know long after others may have forgotton them.

Don;t worry.

we did this wonderful tree identification thing yesterday - I will tell you more later as I want you all to do it. We also did rope swings, survival skills and preditor prey identification.

Today we are doing eating in the wild (campfire), pond dipping and felt making.

I love this so much - sorry but I intend to bore you with it later.

I was looking at last 10.10 meet photo - it was so lovely to meet you all and put faces to the words. I was looking at toot and her happy brood and thinking about her a lot. Best wishes toot.

Franny - have been thinking about you loads too. I enjoy thinking about your little nuzzling baby and your philosophical boy (in non- stalker wat.)

Have a lovely day - and pink you must eat four apples and then you can eat what ever you like.

Yes this is my fave place on the t'internet too. A little haven of loveliness.

But I can't eat 4 apples. We have horrid powdery apples I'm giving them to DH's friends in his pack-up!! I will eat 2 pears and 2 satsumas and I will have lots of runner beans again later.

I am very very tired. DD woke up in the night. We had a tiring day out on Tuesday and I worked yesterday then had a late night and now I just want to sleep. But dd doesn't of course!

Early night for me then.

TooT sorry to hear you have to make big scary decisions! FWIW I also think you and dp have to make the decision, tell him this is what's going to happen and then allow him to talk about it. I was given the option at the dentist when I was 17 of having root canal work or taking the tooth out and based on not wanting to have to go back again I said just take it out. Silly really but similar thing (and I should have been much older and wiser by then!).

oh Bee I wish we were there
maybe next year? [non stalker]

am working on meet but slowly
if anyone wants to come and visit sooner it is now open house chez Franny (well, ring and negotiate anyway)

melon, pear, raisins, pineapple

my mother is coming again today
I wish she would say nice things and well done and stuff, not "oh perhaps it is your milk" when ds2 is crying
she also leaves the room if he really starts crying hard - did the same thing with ds1 - she says "it upsets her too much" Makes me wonder what she did when she had babies herself