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MMR-pros and cons?

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hazlinh · 04/02/2005 09:09

Many many apologies if this has been discussed in great detail in the past...but dd is just going to turn one next week and am wondering what pros and cons there are to having her MMR jab.is it really necessary?or is she better off not having it done

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Heathcliffscathy · 06/02/2005 20:50

he really wasn't, and still isn't (pussy ...i am joking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

lockets · 06/02/2005 20:52

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WideWebWitch · 06/02/2005 20:53

Sophable, yes, I'm concerned about vax for c pox. Would also urge anyone to do their own research and not make any decisions based on a forum like this! This is incredibly unscientific but someone posted here that many old (1970s) family medical books mention measles as a non serious fairly common childhood disease which occasionally has serious consequences. Most post mmr health & childcare books tell us it's a very serious disease indeed.

Heathcliffscathy · 06/02/2005 20:54

www where are you btw, have always meant to ask?

lockets · 06/02/2005 20:54

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frogs · 06/02/2005 20:54

NYM, I think your tone was unwise.

Other things being equal I am in favour of vaccination, and have had my kids done, because I felt that as far as I could assess it, the risk to my children was greater from not being vaccinated. But there are people on here who have specific reasons for not vaccinating their children, and I respect that.

On the other hand, there is a lot of daft stuff floating around IRL: I have got hacked off when I've heard opinions like "I can't see the point of boys having rubella vaccination, they're not going to get pregnant, are they?" or, "My child won't get measles if they're unvaccinated, cos everyone else has had theirs done".

Not everyone in RL is as well-informed as people on MN!

Twiglett · 06/02/2005 20:54

Wakefield's 'kangaroo research'

do you actually know the nature of his research? do you know how it differed from all the other research? from your posts it would seem that you don't.

do you understand the difference between reseach on actual cases and epidemiological research?

talk about swallowing the media hype

Wakefield NEVER said don't vaccinate, he said he would advise seperate vaccinations until further research was carried out. It is the government's crass handling of the issue and refuse to allow parental choice that was the issue

I suppose you believe gulf war syndrome is also a conspiracy then?

Heathcliffscathy · 06/02/2005 20:55

can't argue with that one frogs (the not as informed bit!)

TracyK · 06/02/2005 20:55

what's the diff between measles and rubella? I thought they were the same? and is one more dangerous for boys than girls?

Roobie · 06/02/2005 20:56

Was it only when MMR was introduced that measles, mumps and rubella changed from being "common, usually mild childhood diseases with rare complications" to "horrific devastating diseases"?

Heathcliffscathy · 06/02/2005 20:58

errr.. probably roobs.

tracey. measles and rubella different diseases. rubella milder if i'm not mistaken, both have rash tho. rubella is really really serious of preg woman get it but otherwise not really cause for concern. the fever that is produced with measles virus can lead to complications (if i'm not mistaken?)

WideWebWitch · 06/02/2005 20:58

Well possibly roobie, I'd love to know at which point it changed! Sophable, I'm in Bristol.

Heathcliffscathy · 06/02/2005 20:59

brisle! poo. thought you might be in london.

Newyearmum · 06/02/2005 21:00

I never said Wakefield said 'don't vaccinate'. Yes, I do know the nature of his research.

His sample was of 12 children.

His research was rejected by the Lancet and every other medical authority.

For anyone else wishing to accuse me about my tone, my arrogance, my ignorance or whatever, I would clarify that this post is short because I'm finally going to eat my dinner!

Roobie · 06/02/2005 21:01

lockets - I know you're currently pg like me .... not being vaccinated at all have you previously had rubella?

WideWebWitch · 06/02/2005 21:01

sophable, I was in London, then Devon for 3 years and then Brisle just over a year ago.

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Twiglett · 06/02/2005 21:01

I wish someone in the pro-MMR camp could explain to me what exactly is wrong with wanting to give your child separate vaccinations

lockets · 06/02/2005 21:02

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TracyK · 06/02/2005 21:04

is there an UN biased web site that gives all the facts? the ones I've looked at are completely pro-mmr.

lockets · 06/02/2005 21:05

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TracyK · 06/02/2005 21:06

shall have a look now - thanks

Socci · 06/02/2005 21:06

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TracyK · 06/02/2005 21:09

is it not mumps that are more dangerous for boys? or is it a case that if the boy has a strong immune system and is generally healthy that the diseases caught should be shrugged off more easily?

Socci · 06/02/2005 21:09

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