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please help vomiting ds

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Heathcliffscathy · 15/01/2005 15:05

14 months. some diaorhea (sp?) on thurs. vomited for the first time on thursday afternoon, his whole lunch. had some dinner, vomited most of that up. had bottle of milk before bed, kept that down and slept v well. no diaorhea yesterday, but loose poos iyswim.

yesterday tiny bit of posset in the morning, but otherwise was not sick at all all day. did not have much food, but had 2 yoghurts and some bread and most of his milk before bed. woke up at 5am had pooed (loose but not totally liquid), never usually poos at night. went back to sleep after i changed him.

this morning had breakfast yoghurt, kiwi fruit, raisins (wouldn't have toast, wouldn't have weetabix) and vomited whole lot up (vomited 6 times in total, until clear).

had some milk and plenty water. had little bit of sweet potato as lunchtime. has just sicked it up.

is well in himself, less energy than usual, but no rash, no temperature to speak of, wouldn't describe him as listless.

nhs direct have advised carrying on feeding him everything he'd usually have, and have said that they don't advise no food for 24 hours as before. cause they said i sounded worried they referred it to dr who said if he carries on being sick i should take him to walk in clinic in hospital to get 'his throat checked'.

sorry for long windedness. my instinct is to stop feeding him, either totally apart from water, or just give him milk. i really don't want to take him to a walk in, and wait for hours to see a dr who will just advise me to keep him hydrated (i am)...

this is the first time he's been ill like this (we've been very lucky)

any advice at all v v welcome...please?

x

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Lonelymum · 15/01/2005 19:25

No I wouldn't give him the milk after all that has happened today. If he really kicks up a lot of fuss wanting food, you could try a quarter of a piece of toast or a plain biscuit, somthing like Rich Tea or a cream cracker or similar. But at the moment, if everything he eats is then vomited, I really wouldn't let him have any food at all. Sorry. I know it is tough.

Heathcliffscathy · 15/01/2005 21:05

he's asleep at the moment, we'll not give him anything until tomorrow morning, and then we're debating dry toast vs milk

what do you think?

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lowcalCOD · 15/01/2005 21:06

skimmed milsk if anything

Lonelymum · 15/01/2005 21:07

Toast definitely. Really, honestly, milk will only keep the bug going longer.

lowcalCOD · 15/01/2005 21:07

sophable I have dioralyte powder fro this
its restores allt heir electolytes etc
it form t he chemist

lowcalCOD · 15/01/2005 21:07

here

or they say flat lemonade

mummylonglegs · 15/01/2005 21:13

Personally I think you'd be nuts to give milk. like someone else has said it can take a while after a bug before milk can be tolerated again in anyone, you're just aggravating the problem. I know it's horrible when they scream and cry for food etc. but giving in to those screams just prolongs the whole thing. And also remember that he doesn't understand that his tummy feels ill rather than hungry. For him his tummy doesn't feel 'right' so having something to eat or drink will make it feel better. We know that's not the case otherwise we'd all stuff ourselves during tummy bugs when in fact we can't face food, we understand our tummy's hurt because they're ill.

hoxtonchick · 15/01/2005 21:13

definitely dry toast rather than milk. i always take ds straight off all dairy stuff when he starts throwing up.

Lonelymum · 15/01/2005 21:16

ALso, even though ordinarily your ds would want milk first thing in the morning, after the last couple of days he has had, he will probably be so thirsty on waking up that he will welcome plain water. I find even my eldest ds who rarely drinks plain water, wants it after a tummy bug.

mummylonglegs · 15/01/2005 21:30

Personally I think you'd be nuts to give milk. like someone else has said it can take a while after a bug before milk can be tolerated again in anyone, you're just aggravating the problem. I know it's horrible when they scream and cry for food etc. but giving in to those screams just prolongs the whole thing. And also remember that he doesn't understand that his tummy feels ill rather than hungry. For him his tummy doesn't feel 'right' so having something to eat or drink will make it feel better. We know that's not the case otherwise we'd all stuff ourselves during tummy bugs when in fact we can't face food, we understand our tummy's hurt because they're ill.

SofiaAmes · 15/01/2005 23:04

Don't give milk! Here's a link on how to treat vomiting and diarrhea in children.

weightwatchingwaterwitch · 15/01/2005 23:13

Poor you, hope he and you get some sleep and he's brighter tomorrow.

Adashaw · 15/01/2005 23:29

Hi am new and thought I would add a bit - fruit juices can be very acidic, plus beware of the ones with added citric acid, dairy (cow) products which can cause loads of problems are also very mucus forming which is also why adults should avoid them when they have runny noses. I reckon all the advice on keeping hydrated and small amounts of bland food is the best thing (though I also know that flat full fat coke is supposed to be really good for tummy bugs - which goes comletely against the grain!! Hope all is well soon!

A

aloha · 15/01/2005 23:30

Oh, poor you! It's horribly upsetting isn't it? I'm like you and can't bear to think of them being hungry and uncomprehending. Ds has had a few vomiting bugs and we've tended to give slightly sugared water as he hates rehydration drinks, but will drink sugar-water. Plus things like a rich tea biscuit or a bit of banana - testing the water so to speak. In the morning I'd give warm water with a bit of sugar (only because my ds loves warm drinks) and a very small amount of something bland and see what happens. My ds tends to have 24 hour bouts of vomiting when he has them so it's usually OK then. I really, really sympathise though as it is horrid to see them suffer both with vomiting AND being hungry.

bettys · 16/01/2005 10:12

His he this morning? Hope he's better. I would second the flat full fat coke, seems to work for my ds (and me!) The other thing that can hydrate & make them feel better is sucking on a lolly - preferably one you've frozen yourself if you're worried about the fruit juice in them, or even just ice cubes.

bettys · 16/01/2005 10:12

That should be 'how is he?'

Lonelymum · 16/01/2005 12:13

Hope ds is better today sophable. Even if he is, don't go overboeard with feeding him: stick to tiny amounts of bland stuff. Another suggestion I haven't seem mentioned yet is to give him some jelly if he likes it. My oldest ds always demands jelly as part of his recuperation!

Sponge · 16/01/2005 12:32

My ds has this too and he's only 5 months.
Have been feeding him his formula as normal although he's not taking much and quite a bit is coming back out. He's also got diarrhea.
Tried him on some diorylite this morning but he wouldn't drink it.
We were starting to wean him but have stopped solids as I don't think unusual foods are a good idea at present although he likes his baby rice and this is quite bland so could be OK.
What do you think?

Lonelymum · 16/01/2005 12:44

Oh Sponge, I really don't know what to advise when your ds is only 5 months old. I know they say breastfeeding babies should continue with milk, but I am not sure about formula milk. Definitely stay off the solids though. Perhaps you could ring NHS Direct (0845 46 47) for advice.

Frizbe · 16/01/2005 12:50

Hi Sponge If you have vomiting and the trots with formula and dirolyte is not going down well, try the sugarwater with a teeny bit of salt ( I think the actual formula is further down this list) its also in the baby progress books if you have one of those? failing that NHS direct will advise you, but try it warmed a little bit, this worked with my dd when she was younger (who also has the most horrible bug at the mo incidently and has slept for the last 4 days now... with intermittent whining, have to go back to quacks tomoro if not better....)

blueteddy · 16/01/2005 12:51

My ds1 had this when he was 7 months old.
I was advised by my hv to give him his milk watered down, with half the amount of scoops than water (eg - 6 ozs of water with 3 scoops of milk powder.)
I was also advised to give him plain baby rice.

Heathcliffscathy · 16/01/2005 13:20

we gave him some milk this morning and he threw up :-(

won't be doing that again.

however, since we've been giving him dioralyte drink and mashed pear in tiny amounts and he has kept it down...

is asleep now. was v sleepy...but always gets sleepy at this time of day. i'm worried about him, but he has no rash and no temp...

just wish he would get better it's awful. i know it's my fault for giving him milk. i won't give him anymore.

when he wakes i'm going to give him more dioralyte and maybe some broth?

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Sponge · 16/01/2005 13:27

Poor little mite.
I'm a bit worried about ds too but he doesn't seem ill. He's perfectly happy and although he's sleeping for longer stretches than usual in the day he's not listless of grumpy in between times and no teperature either.
He just keep puking and poohing.
I think you just have to ride these bugs out and make sure they don't get dehydrated.
I'd keep off the milk if I were you Sophable, although it's harder for us as there's nothing else we can give.

lowcalCOD · 16/01/2005 16:07

glad the diotalye i s good
di oyu have some anyway?

Sponge · 16/01/2005 16:20

we've got some but ds won't drink it.
Gave him more milk and he's puked twice and had more diarrhea .

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