Fatties wishing to shrink - part 2

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I am starting this new thread as suggested. The answers to my questions may be on the old thread but it is too long to trawl through.

Well I have just come back from my weigh in at WW after my first week and am really disappointed that I only lost 1 1/2 pounds I am a Gold Member and previously in the past I have lost 4 lbs the first week.
I don't understand why the first week you start off with less points - I had 18. Now I am on 22 and was told to expect a better loss next week.

The emphasis is to use all your points, so why start you on less the first week. Does anyone know the answer. Did this happen with any of the rest of you WW people out there?

On the plus side I have not had any wine for a week and am feeling better for it. Dh is sticking to the plan as well. Hopefully next week I will have a better result. Am worried though that having 22 points will be too much if the loss was so little on 18. Reassurance needed.

Welcome Pandabear.

I stayed that same this week, I too am finding it very easy to lose weight when I stick to it, its is just that I am so easily tempted and usually do not stick to it.

Worst times are DS tea time, i usually polish off what hes left. i know I should make more of an effort, today couldn't be bothered to get a proper breakfast so grabbed a handful of biscuits. naughty naughty

Hello!

Can I join aswell?! The embarrassing thing is that I didn't actually have our ds (my partner did!), but since he's been born I've put on weight - I think sleepless nights/feeling the need to eat comfort food etc. hasn't helped, plus a couple of health problems.

Anyway, since September 2002 I've started to be good and I've lost about 2 stone, but still have 2.5 stone to go and I'm losing all my motivation. I've stayed the same weight since December..... Would love to be a size 16 to be honest (I'm currently between an 18 - 20, but was up to a 24 last summer).

Help!!!

Welcome pandabear, course you can join in! Bk, I reckon I'm close to that (although too scared to check) and you're at least 6 inches taller than me! eeek! I know what I have to do to lose weight, I just find it really hard to do it. I can cope with the exercise part as long as it's long country walks but I struggle with no wine on a school night, less olive oil, no pizza, no skin on chicken, no marinating in olive oil. I haven't eaten dairy for ages but have recently decided I don't care about my skin breakouts and have therefore added white chocolate to the problem! Every day I decide to be sensible and most days I fail...

Hello I'm a compulsive dieter. No really I keep trying, failing then getting back on the wagon again. Last week I lost a kilo, I like to work in kilos as it sounds so much more than 2.2lb. I also lost 5 inches in total from my bust, hips and thighs. (I'm on the Rosemary Conley diet). This week though I've been a nightmare with my only excuse is that I'm on. I've had a craving for chocolate and wine. I'm hoping to get back on track tomorrow. Its the willpower that gets me as well but apparently as long as you keep going back on a diet you're not a failure (or so it says on the WW site).

hello everyone. it's good to know others are also attempting to lose weight and hopefully we can give eachother some moral support.

i think diets are a bad idea, both psychologically and physiologically. i'm convinced the best bet is the "healthy eating" route. well, we'll see how far that gets me!

www, you will of course have observed from my post that only one week/ten days ago i was actually 12st 9lbs - that is absolutely shameful. i just don't know where that other 9lbs went... i think it's far too early in this process to start thinking the scales must be broken...

Can't resist with chipping in on the "Diets are a bad idea" notion.
Depends what you mean by diet. If you mean a plan like a friend of mine is on which involves almost nothing but boiled eggs for a fortnight, yes of course this is not a sensible way to lose weight and maintain it. If you mean totally excluding a food group or relying on some supplements which make wild claims about their efficacy then yes, that's "bad" too.

If on the other hand you mean an eating plan/strategy as suggested by many authors and slimming clubs then I fail to see how that can be anything but good.

ALL the reputable slimming clubs emphasise a total change towards healthy eating for life, and are at pains to remind members that a diet is not something you "go on" then"come off" once you are slim.
If they use the word "diet" to describe their plans so be it.

We all know how to lose weight.

Eat less, move more.

But it is so hard, and that is why a sensible diet/plan whatever you wnat to call it helps because it gives you something to hang your hat on so to speak.

" Diets" DO work. It's when you stop following the diet that you gain weight!

Following a healthy eating plan is a diet by any other name

oh, goodness, everything i say atm seems to rub someone up the wrong way. perhaps i need to take a break from this site, and that would certainly be a way of fitting more exerise into my schedule.

jasper, i think you do ww? yes, that does seem to be focused on healthy eating rather than obsessive calorie counting and weighing. i considered going the ww route but decided i would be better off doing additional exercise in the time instead.

however, a lot of people i know cut their calories right down, and all they achieve is turning their metabolism to starvation mode, fetishising certain foods, and creating unsustainable eating patterns. this is what i meant by diets being psychologically and physiologically unhealthy - yet this also seems to be what many/most people mean by "diet".

it seems i am alone in this on this site, but i actually think the words we choose to describe things are important.

No BK, I think that you have a very valid point although I also think that you have similar views to Jasper, you're just disagreeing as to whether it is a 'DIET'. (As an aside you're also probably feeling a bit grumpy right now )

I'm too tired to discuss properly right now (and dh has just done the 'are you ever going to get off there and come to bed' thing) but I really believe adjusting food intake to fit in with the guidelines we all hear & ignore, does work longterm particularly with an increase in exercise.

Bossykate, I agree with you - the words we use to describe things are important, especially here where we can't see or hear each other. You and Jasper are both right but I dislike the idea of being 'on a diet' and prefer to think of it as healthy eating too. Anyway, thought you might be interested to know that tonight I bought a big bar of chocolate, 2 packets of biscuits, a pizza, a bottle of wine, a smoked cheese, some white chocolate eggs and...Sliming magazine! I sat on the sofa reading the magazine, eating the pizza and drinking the wine, promising myself that I'll start tomorrow And the idiotic thing is that I wouldn't normally buy biscuits or cheese or chocolate in big bars, it's a reaction to worrying about my weight, a kind of I'm not supposed to eat this but I damn well will if I want to.

bossykate I am sure we are singing from the same songsheet so to speak, and you have reminded me of a thought I had only last week - if I spent as much time exercising as I do on mumsnet I might have to start a new thread entitled "Help, I am getting too thin".

twink, grumpy, moi, do you really think so? thanks for your message!

www, well out of my "healthy eating" objectives today, all i have managed is eating 5 times! never mind, tomorrow is another day. i will write it in my food diary and move on. know exactly what you mean about food craving/panic. i was doing this all last week - it was like i absolutely had to eat loads of high calorie rubbish because it might be my last chance... i have to think of it more like quitting smoking. have not done so up to now because of course am not quitting food! but, like quitting smoking, it was quite a mental adjustment to think of it as gaining, rather than losing, something. hope that makes sense!

thank you for your kind words.

jasper, from what i read you have done very well with your weight loss plans, well done. maybe, as twink says, it is a case of "violent agreement". hope so as i do normally enjoy your very humourous posts.

jasper, our posts crossed, thank you for your note. i long for the day my problem is "help, there will soon be nothing of me!"

Again short of time but will try to fit stuff in quickly.

I've yo-yoed dieted for around 15 years, done them all (except WW, only because I worked out my own system before I got there)

The only thing which works for me is low fat eating in the week plus weekends where I eat whatever takes my fancy, in my case bread and cheese (loathe low fat cheese with a passion !) usually washed down with red wine.

It's not a 'diet' as such but it's something I can live with continually, I'm not denying myself my favourites, far from it but during the week when things are manic, I find a ham and low cal mayo sandwich easy to eat in a hurry and know that come Sat/Sun we'll have a relaxed family meal with no guilt stuff.

Admittedly I do a lot of exercise, but only since I did the Race for Life last year.

Any of you who are really wanting to 'up' your exercise, have a look at the site Race For Life . All around the country there are women-only 'races' in aid of CancerResearchUK, it's an amazing day; thousands of women getting together to run/jog/walk (and over half do walk) for 3 miles/ 5 kilometres, many have 'I'm doing this because of X' or 'In memory of Y' labels on their backs.

I did it last year with a group of friends and now run regularly, even entering 'proper' races. It got me hooked and it certainly helps my weight maintenance but I would never have started without it. Have a look at the site and stop making excuses, even to walk 3 miles takes well under an hour - you HAVE got time.

well, i'm officially one week in. this morning's weigh in was 12st 5lb. have to say i'm really mystified how i can "lose" 9lb and "gain" 5lb in such a short space of time. i haven't observed any difference in how my clothes are fitting... hey ho. any input on this much appreciated. dh is convinced the scales are not reliable, but as i said before i'm sceptical on that one!

consumption wise things are now going according to plan after a shaky start in the earlier part of the week. i even ate carrot sticks for lunch yesterday!

exercise wise is a different story. i'm supposed to be doing some strengthening/toning exercise every night before bed but have failed to do any so far.

twink, i have been mulling over your various comments on running and the race for life. i think that would be a good thing for me to aim for. will see how it goes.

hope all is going well for all other would be shrinkers!

Bossykate - please don't take this the wrong way but I have this 'image' of you as a suave, (SP?), sophisticated business woman in smart suits and a size 8 so I am pleasantly surprised to see you here!

I keep dipping in & out of this thread but not taking it too seriously, although I need to (MUCH heavier than you!) - but I was thrilled to be 'phoned today & asked to do my second modelling assignment - charity fashion show - but still good fun. Had to remind them I am a 16/18!

Good luck to all you dieters, I wish I had your willpower.

Have decided (or admitted?) that at 5'0 am obese at 12 stone! So the new ME starts here. No more boozing during the week, at least 2litres of water a day plus 5+ portions of veg/fruit. And (oh, the pain of it), no more lazy takeways!

I shall be the amazing shrinking woman until my womanly curves come back. Have no intention of being skinny, just curvy and sexy!

Wish me luck?

Bossykate have I got this right?
You weighed yourself on conseccutive weeks at 12.9, 12.0, 12.5 while following your healthy eating plan?
I think one of two things have happened. Either your scales are dodgy ( step on and off them several times alternately with your dh and see if the readings are consistent)or secondly, are you weighing at the same time each day? You can get false fluctuations before a period or at different times of day. I consistently weigh six pounds more at the end of each day, then I appear to lose six pounds overnight.
Before you chuck out your scales make sure you are weighing yourslef under the same conditions - naked first thing ( after a visit to the loo) is a reasonable time as you are likely to weigh least then.
Good luck

Jasper - would you honestly let your DH know what you weigh? !!!!!!! The thought of testing the scales together - no thanks!!

Yes Lindy - he's a fatty too!

lindy, thank you, thank you! i'm never going to a meet up again in the hope that people will carry that image of me around with them instead of the reality!

jasper, yes you're right that's exactly the pattern of my weight. glad someone else thinks it's rather odd! yes, i have been weighing myself at the same time each day, morning, naked, having been to the loo, exactly as you suggest. i do find i bloat during my period but can't attribute these fluctuations to that. have not managed to be entirely consistent about the healthy eating, but have not indulged in elvis style binges either...

will try the test if i can persuade dh, the poor love will be worried about letting me see what he weighs!

thanks for your note!

good luck, ghengis

Lost another 2lb - so 5 in three weeks. Only another 3 stone to go!

Ghengis, could have posted that myself.
Same weight and height, and have been doing the 2 l water and 5 pieces thing all week.
DH and I are doing it together, (he's a bit of a fatty too). We have also been doing the food combineing thing (no meat and starch in same day), and have been quite surprised how easy it is once you get your head round it.
Last night he cooked a slimming world recipe, breast of chicken, stuffed with ricotta and wrapped in palma ham, served with veg.
I'd like to lose the weight I've piled on since having the boys (now 4), I used to be between 7.5 and 8 stone, which did not look skinny as I'm so short. So I've got about 3.5 to 4 stone to lose.

Has anyone else tried the Scarsdale diet? I've been doing it since Tuesday and have already lost 5 lbs!! This seems too good to be true as I haven't even felt that hungry, just craving carbohydrates (the diet is a bit like the Atkins diet, but not so extreme on the carbohydrate reduction and is also lower fat). I've managed to keep cravings in check by chewing low-sugar gum from time to time. This diet appears to be endorsed by a doctor and was recommended to me by a doctor, so hopefully it's not too cranky. It claims that the average person loses a pound a day over two weeks so I should have reached my target by Tuesday week!! (you are supposed to stop after this and go onto a maintenance diet for two weeks, then restart the main diet if necessary).

Anyone had any success stories with it or think this is a dangerous way to lose weight? As it seems to be so effective, I'm willing to give it a try (shouldn't speak too soon)...

me too here - I managed to put on very little weight whilst pregnant - dd was quite small and in the last couple of weeks lost a lot of amniotic fluid!! ( long story) Then dd was in special care for three weeks and in london for heart surgery for three weeks and the stress of that saw me eat my way through more chocolate and fattening food than I can begin to imagine. Eating out whilst dd was in hospital did not help. Hospital food made me ill and so with lovely places like Pizza express quite near - I did not eat very healthily.

Now am doing Weight watchers and my first week lost 4 lbs.

Glad the weather is improving and dd and I can walk to the local shop and the family all go for a walk both saturday and sunday to the country park near us. Still have tonnes to lose but trying hard. Not humgry or overeating or even craving much junk food since I started.

Probably reach my goal about the time we want to start no2!! Oh well not so far to return then.

Am on last few days of life without a baby which is due to arrive this week. Everyone keeps telling me I have a very "neat" bump which I find bizarre given the obscene amount of chocolate I have been scoffing for about the last two months. Was slightly overweight b4 getting pregnant - concerned about what I will be like after! Am desperate to buy some nice, non - maternity clothes. As was 14 before, bought loose looking size 16 top the other day in hopeful anticipation of post baby size and could not even get it over my boobs. could have cried. Changing it for a size 18 today, v. depressed!