What should Humans really eat/not eat

[Rosieblue12]

Does anyone else get really confused about all the noise out there about what and how we should and should not eat for health and longevity from all the professionals, Doctors and scientist that all have differing views , conflicting each other, These doctors and scientist on YouTube, Like Dr Ken Berry, he is a Carnivore, eats nothing but meat, eggs and fat, swears by it, so does his wife, eats endless amounts of bacon and butter, and salt, will not touch grain, no bread, no wholegrains, does not eat fruit and vegs, says its not good for us, does loads of research very intelligent, His wife and kids, all healthy and happy, Then there is Dr Brad Stanfield, also very intelligent , does loads of research , swears by the Mediterranean diet, says we should eat lots of fruits and veg, fish, wholegrains, including bread, rice, pasta etc, says limit meat, limits butter etc, what are we meant to believe ?
Just wondering what your thought are.

this!

Non-functional food makes me feel like crap. So I wouldn’t eat a shop bought cake, for example because it’s not worth it. I’ll feel tired afterwards and probably crave more crap food. A small piece of homemade cake to celebrate something special - absolutely.

I eat 90-100% dark chocolate when the need takes me. Not easy to get through much of that too often.

I find it preferable to reward myself with things that make me feel good, not bad. It’s just what I’ve learned.

Agree, with the exception of cold-pressed rapeseed oil (I buy organic - it makes great mayo).

Anything that isn’t ultra processed.

We shouldn't be eating ultra processed foods.

Very little meat too.

I'm an ideal world we would only eat things that grow. With a bit of meat or fish thrown in

A bit of shop bought cake or milk chocolate doesn’t make me feel bad, so happy to have some when I fancy it!

Almost everything we eat is "processed" in some way.

Apart maybe from fruit.

There's an awful lot of potential orthorexia on this thread.

There is processing and processing though. Cheese is processed, but it's a simple process that's been around for thousands of years. The chemical processes used to extract the cheap seed oils that are used to bulk out so much pre-made food are very different.

Baking a cake imvolves 'processing', but when I bake a cake at home, I use real butter and recognisable ingredients that are in a state not too dissimilar to their original form (e.g. flour has been milled, spices ground and dried).

Look at the ingredients list on a cake from a shop - it's nothing like what you'd use at home. They almost all use cheap vegetable oil or palm oi instead of butter for a start (even the ones packaged to look wholesome and homemadeish).

There is processing and processing though. Cheese is processed, but it's a simple process that's been around for thousands of years. The chemical processes used to extract the cheap seed oils that are used to bulk out so much pre-made food are very different.

Baking a cake involves 'processing', but when I bake a cake at home, I use real butter and recognisable ingredients that are in a state not too dissimilar to their original form (e.g. flour has been milled, spices ground and dried).

Look at the ingredients list on a cake from a shop - it's nothing like what you'd use at home. They almost all use cheap vegetable oil or palm oil instead of butter for a start (even the ones packaged to look wholesome and homemadeish).

There is processing and processing though. Cheese is processed, but it's a simple process that's been around for thousands of years. The chemical processes used to extract the cheap seed oils that are used to bulk out so much pre-made food are very different.

Baking a cake involves 'processing', but when I bake a cake at home, I use real butter and recognisable ingredients that are in a state not too dissimilar to their original form (e.g. flour has been milled, spices ground and dried).

Look at the ingredients list on a cake from a shop - it's nothing like what you'd use at home. They almost all use cheap vegetable oil or palm oil instead of butter for a start (even the ones packaged to look wholesome and homemadeish).

Argh, sorry! The site went crazy and multiplied my post.

There is processing and processing though
I agree, engineered by a team of scientists to make it as addictive as possible so you cant stop eating...well thats a whole other level of processing!

Yes, exactly! I've gradually moved to a position where my basic rule is that, when I check the ingredients of something, I want to see things that I recognise as food, and that I would use if I were making the thing myself at home.

If what I see is e.g. high fructose corn syrup, various disguised sugars, palm oil, rapeseed oil (and it won't be the cold pressed type) etc, I avoid eating it.

You'd be surprised how many 'normal' foods are like that. It's because those are cheap ways of making the food addictive - the manufacturing companies don't give a shit about your health, they just want to make sales!

maybe we can make a distinction between processing which improves the food and processing which improves the profits of 'big food'?
(or whatever the term is)

There’s the Nova scale which separates for food into four categories. It’s category four (ultra processed foods) which is best avoided.

1. Unprocessed or minimally processed food (whole foods like fruit, vegetables, meat, fish, eggs, nuts, flours)
2. Processed culinary ingredients (vinegar, salt, oils etc. Food which are aren’t typically eaten alone)
3. Processed food (things like cheese, plain yogurt, tofu, cured meats, tomato purée. Foods with additional processing steps and an ingredient list, but still derived from group 1&2 foods)
4. Ultra processed food (food made from industrial process with artificial ingredients not found in a home kitchen to enhance shelf life, colour, texture. Designed around maximum palatability, such as Doritos, packets of cookies, most supermarket bread, crackers, Diet Coke etc.)

Been doing the carnivore diet, coupled with berries.

No more sugar highs or lows - no more feeling tired - my vitiligo is regressing - sometimes just have one main meal a day and a few berries here and there - and feel ‘even’ throughout the day and night - never feel hungry.

So little waste from it too - gone from 3 recycling bins down to half of one a month - food waste - there isn’t any….

It’s cheaper!! Costco red meats and chicken mainly. Went from £800 a month food bill down by half we think. And that cos we still have 1 kid at home who isn’t on this regime.

Stopped any ‘hankering’ after a dessert. Being honest, i love a salad, even in winter, but i was always hankering after something of a treat after that.

not sure it’s for everyone - there were some initial side effects - which lasted a few days - nothing bad.

Instill need my morning coffee!! That’s my treat.

Interesting thank you.

Me too.

Just google him, he is all over YouTube

Youtube...😂