Really not feeling like myself and feeling very ill

[blvdbrokendreams]

I am 26 and a mum to an 8 month old. I am really struggling with eating. I feel sick when I eat and feel better if I force it down. I then feel better for about half an hour and then feel sick again. I'm exhausted. I know I'm a mum to a little one but this is beyond exhaustion. I could nap all day and still sleep all night. I can actually feel my eyes shutting when I'm changing her nappy. I'm constantly thirsty. And all I want is sugar. Orange juice or full sugar cola.
I took a pregnancy test on the off chance and both came back negative. I had a period 10 days ago so I'm thinking that's very unlikely.
I rang the doctors who told me no appointments because of covid and if I'm worried to call 111.
I dont think it's an out of hours gp thing. It doesn't feel like a hospital thing. It's been going on for 5 days. And I'm starting to worry

The issue you have is not with the GP, but with the fact that receptionists are not trained to triage patients
With all due respect, I would still be mad at the GP for this.

They either don't know this is happening which shows poor management or they do know that it is happening and that is even worse.

my Dd had a f2f appointment this week as a precursor to going on the pill
I would be more likely to see a rainbow-shitting unicorn than a GP where I live.

I put in a repeat request on Monday, need it for this Monday but it has to be ordered in by the pharmacy.

They still haven't actioned it, surgery locked but they are inside and won't speak to "those who can use the Internet" on the phone.

[quote TheThingsWeAdmitOnMN]@imalmostthere

Type 2 diabetes is caused fundamentally by lifestyle, and very often obesity. It's also sometimes reversible with significant lifestyle changes

This judgemental claptrap needs to stop.

I have T2. It was caused by a virus that attacked my liver, after glandular fever. I was very slim & very fit & healthy.

I am now fat BECAUSE of the way my body now fails to work properly. I'm not the only T2 in this position.

I am hoping that there's some Covid inspired research that will help them make a bit more sense of it all and help people in my situation. It's a horrible way to feel for years on end.

I have been living with a form of long Covid for years, and judgemental people really don't help.[/quote]
I'm sorry your health declined after a virus.

Diabetes that is T2 happens because the pancreas doesn't work properly. It can't produce enough insulin.
Ok this can happen to some people for all kinds of reasons but predominantly, the reason is insulin resistance, caused by obesity and / or lack of exercise.

The vast majority of people with T2 are overweight and inactive and have insulin resistance.

Some are slim and that's usually older people where their pancreas has stopped working properly.

Wish people would RTFT and see that you have now been diagnosed with type 1 diabetes!!

Well done for getting yourself into hospital OP and not just waiting it out. GP’s are hideous at diagnosing diabetes and it’s not just because you’re a new mum. My sibling was diagnosed at 11 after my DM went to absolute war with the GP surgery who kept dismissing it as a virus.

Being insulin dependant is going to be a really hard adjustment whilst caring for a baby OP. It’s not like taking tablets, it’s a constantly changing balance and your body will process different foods differently. Slow release vs fast...etc you can do everything right and still have crazy highs/lows.

You are going to need support at home over these first few weeks, your DH will need to talk to work about him being at home with you for a bit xx

Sorry @StarCat2020 I admit we are very lucky. It is a large clinic type set up but still quite personal. Hope you get it sorted

Type 2 diabetes is caused fundamentally by lifestyle, and very often obesity. It's also sometimes reversible with significant lifestyle changes.

Type 1 is genetic, or something you are born with or develop which isn't anything to do with lifestyle, and is irreversible and more serious. The two can't be compared really.

This isn't true, actually. Despite the stereotype, Type II diabetes has a larger genetic component than Type I. E.g. in this study, if an identical twin gets T2DM, there is a 96% chance that their twin will get it when followed up for long enough:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10064093/

Although it may be traditional to spread the idea that people with type 2 diabetes deserve it because they're clearly fat and greedy, the data show that's rubbish.

More on the genetics of diabetes:
www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-and-genetics.html

@JinglingHellsBells I'm not judgmental at all -nowhere did I say T2 is only caused by being overweight, I said in most cases, which is correct.
I'm very sorry for what happened, that's awful.
The fact is that a lot of cases of type 2 are caused by lifestyle and can be reversed.
This was in response to someone comparing the two types. Not to be judgey, and not to start a row. You've taken this to heart when it's just medical fact.

[quote theshellhouse]Type 2 diabetes is caused fundamentally by lifestyle, and very often obesity. It's also sometimes reversible with significant lifestyle changes.

Type 1 is genetic, or something you are born with or develop which isn't anything to do with lifestyle, and is irreversible and more serious. The two can't be compared really.

This isn't true, actually. Despite the stereotype, Type II diabetes has a larger genetic component than Type I. E.g. in this study, if an identical twin gets T2DM, there is a 96% chance that their twin will get it when followed up for long enough:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10064093/

Although it may be traditional to spread the idea that people with type 2 diabetes deserve it because they're clearly fat and greedy, the data show that's rubbish.

More on the genetics of diabetes:
www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-and-genetics.html[/quote]
It is true - type two can also be genetic, but it's still more common in those who are overweight, and it's reversible whereas type one is not.
Just because type 2 can be more genetic that type 1, it doesn't make any of the rest less true.

I don't think you understand genetic risk very well. The data I linked to showed not that "can be more genetic" but it is almost entirely genetic.

@theshellhouse
NOWHERE have I said all type 2 diabetics deserve it and are fat and fat and greedy!
That's putting words in my mouth, I haven't and wouldn't ever say that.
I said the MOST COMMON cause is obesity, this was in response to a lady saying all diabetics aren't thin, as she is overweight and a type 2, whereas as op is a type 1 and losing weight.
It's a bloody medical fact it's the most common cause or type 2, I'm not being anywhere near judgey. Christ.

There we go - from the nhs, often caused by obesity - so the nhs are judgey and all then.

I don't think you understand. I am not debating it has a very strong association with obesity; everyone knows that. But you were strongly saying that "it can't be compared" because it is caused by people overeating. What I am trying to show you is that the judgy tone is totally unnecessary because we don't know the mechanism that causes some people to get obesity and T2DM, but we do know that it is very very strongly coded for in their genes. We don't generally talk about diseases that have a very strong genetic component being someone's fault; except when it comes to fat people.

@theshellhouse

I don't think you understand. I am not debating it has a very strong association with obesity; everyone knows that. But you were strongly saying that "it can't be compared" because it is caused by people overeating. What I am trying to show you is that the judgy tone is totally unnecessary because we don't know the mechanism that causes some people to get obesity and T2DM, but we do know that it is very very strongly coded for in their genes. We don't generally talk about diseases that have a very strong genetic component being someone's fault; except when it comes to fat people.

Nope - I'm saying type one and two can't be compared, because type 2 can be reversed and type 1 cannot. Type 1 is also a lot more serious and debilitating.

You've made up that I've said it's not comparable because it's from over eating - quit putting words in my mouth.

Perhaps people could conduct their debate somewhere other than this thread, which is really now needed as support for the OP.
Please?

@StarCat2020

The issue you have is not with the GP, but with the fact that receptionists are not trained to triage patients With all due respect, I would still be mad at the GP for this.

They either don't know this is happening which shows poor management or they do know that it is happening and that is even worse.

I agree with this. I worked as a doctor's receptionist when younger. Yes this receptionist may have cocked up, but the management structure must be at fault too, to allow this kind of cock up to occur. Normally receptionists have procedures they're told to follow. The receptionists are ultimately employed by the GP partners.

Not judgey. At all. It's fact.
I lost my Df to diabetes, I know how awful it is. I spent years injecting him when he couldn't and seeing how it effected him. He was type one.
I also lost a friend who was 23 and died of a diabetic coma.
There's no judgment from me, not in the slightest. Type one is more serious and harder to live with. 2 is easier to control, and can be reversed. That's why they can't be compared.
Quit making me out to be an arsehole for presenting facts of a disease, the things you've accused me of aren't true in the slightest.
Have a lovely day.

Being kept in another night. Really not feeling very well. Sick and shaky and tired.

@EscapeDragon

Perhaps people could conduct their debate somewhere other than this thread, which is really now needed as support for the OP. Please?

I agree, it's inappropriate of me and I apologise profusely op. Hope you're ok and feeling better. Catching it early is great and you're on the right path to get it sorted ❤️

@blvdbrokendreams

Being kept in another night. Really not feeling very well. Sick and shaky and tired.

Once you get into the routine I promise you will feel much better, it's so overwhelming for you - I'm so sorry you're feeling so poorly x

@imalmostthere your exact phrases were "The two can't be compared really" and "Type 2 diabetes is caused fundamentally by lifestyle".

I have zero interest in having an argument with you - I just didn't want the incorrect facts on genetics to go unchallenged (again).

You're also wrong to say "Type 1 is also a lot more serious and debilitating." T2DM can also progress to full insulin dependence.

I will hide this thread now.

I just wanna cry. I feel so sick. Everytime I move I want to be sick. I could sleep for a week. Doctors coming back at some point. Nurses have been lovely. Because of covid I'm not allowed any visitors. I just want a hug off my husband and baby girl

You've been very ill and are probably still quite ill. It will take a little while to work out the best regime for you and for your body to recover. You're doing well and it's only natural to want your family.

Aw op that's awful the Gp sounds useless. Thank goodness you called 111 I've called them a few times when I couldn't get an appointment and the are usually really good. Hate to think what could of happened so glad you went on time. Your head must be spinning but it will all be ok in time no doubt it's a shock to be diagnosed with type 1 diabetes out of the blue. At least you can get the proper care to manage it and live healthy and well.

Thanks everyone for the help. I've had a cry, a massive cry actually. I need to get better and be strong for my baby. I appreciate every single comment and I am reading them all. I'll keep you all updated

Sorry @StarCat2020 I admit we are very lucky. It is a large clinic type set up but still quite personal. Hope you get it sorted
@orangecinnamon
Cheers mate.

It is shocking how quickly we have come to thinking that we are "lucky" to get healthcare.

Thoughts are with you baby girl will be in your arms before you know it