Please could someone help me diagnose what's wrong with my dd

[Wills]

She's had stomach cramps on and off for the last week but no temperature. Given that she's started infant school I've put it down to stress. Today however I'm starting to think I'm wrong . She's barely eaten anything all day and this afternoon/this evening has stomach cramps again. She doesn't feel sick yet (and at 4 she'd know) and now she has a high temperature. When asked to point to exactly where the pain is she points to her tummy button. She's been loosish for a few days but certainly not what I would have called diahorhea (sp?). She's refusing medicine!

Maybe take her to dr to rule out appendicitis - as friends dd had this and they missed it as pain was behind belly button instead of off to the side. Probably just a bit of a viral malingering but thing, but if you're worried, call nhs direct and get her seen.

Sorry I don't know what it could be but hope she feels better soon x

Tried nhs direct? 0845 46 47 i think? Sorry can't be of more help!

appendix?Pain would gradually get worse and shift from centre stomach to right hand side. Poor appetite, often ending up being sick. Speak to doctor though, obv. I'm only stabbing in the dark.

would also be much much sorer if right hand side of stomach touched

Boco - BINGO! I had a grumbling appendix that was misdiagnosed as colic for years. Only correctly diagnosed when it burst! and that's what I've slightly paniced about but at the same time it can't be that likely and I'm probably sierously over reacting.

tbh, not an expert...but I think it's a psychological thing....i.e nervous, etc...

maybe ask about friends, school in general to find out if she has any worries..iykwim...

OK have tried pushing her tummy and she says its equal so possibly I'm over-reacting. Its just that I wouldn't have thought that you would get such a high temperature from stress just the tummy pains. Think we're in for an uncomfortable night so I'm off for a bath and my bed whilst dh takes the first shift.

my ms pulled that recently, and I honestly saw myself in a7e already....well, gave him medised or ibrufen..can't remember now, and fever droped, good sign...and pain went, aslo good sign...came to conclusion that in his case it was just ordinray feverish ache...and he actually did point to the correct side for appendicitys, aswell as teh right pain symptoms...

Meant to say - but have phoned nhs direct anyway. I'd rather be safe than not but suspect that I am over reacting.

Well, no harm in getting it checked out - hope she's ok and you all get some sleep.

you know what I am actually a qualified nurse...but haven't worked as such for so many years, and also, if it is your child...everything changes...

UTI ?

small children do not get the whole its urinary / stomach thing

high temp would lead me to think its a UTI

take sample to doctors in morning .. might need anti-bs

Wills, I took dd to the GP a couple of months ago, because of a mixture of symptoms, including high temperature and tummy pains which she'd had for a week or so. The doctor said it was a virus, as the glands in her neck were up, and apparently they have glands in their tummies as well which can really hurt when they've got a virus. Dd was off colour for about 2 weeks - I took her to the doc after she fell asleep at playgroup and slept for an hour, which was REALLY unusual.

Hope she's feeling better soon. x

yes, people often think appendicitis when it;s the galnds in teh tummy, apparently

Don't you think you ought to seek professional medical advice?

This is mumsnet - you can hardly rely on it for medical advice relating to your child (based on what you write rather than an examination)!

Are you seriously going to accept what is said on here for something so important? I know most people mean well and its fab support for many people in connection with many issues but you have to accept that its usually personal opinion and surely you can't afford that in this situation. I think there are times when users are over reliant on this.

I do hope she is ok though and that its nothing serious.

kimmy, she is seeking medical advice. She's not a halfwit.

Didn't say she was but as a mum with an ill child, do you really need to come on here to be told/advised to ring NHS direct or go to a GP.

So far there have been several suggested 'possibilities' (well complete guesses really) - and some personal opinions - all of which are of no use whatsover seeing as none of the posters have even seen the girl and are unlikely to be doctors.

It's a message board. Wills has phoned medics she just wants to chat about it. ON a message board. It's not the most rational thing in the world to do, but it's what happens.

Yes exactly, message board and potentially not rational. Look at the title - says it all!

I'm just saying that there are certain things that these shouldn't be used for - medical diagnosis for example.

Completely different if you have got a medical diagnosis and want to discuss it or are worried and want some reassurance yourself

Oh for goodness sake - Wills has phoned NHS DIrect. I'm sure they will give the appropriate advice. In the meantime, getting some advice from a message board is a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

Hope she's ok Wills. x

Wills I had my appendix out just under a year ago - it "grumbled" for over two weeks beforehand and I eventually went into hospital when I started feeling nauseous and my temperature was spiking (I would break out in a sweat, then it would go down again, only to rise again in another half hour). It's certainly a possibility. Hope she's ok!

Oh goodgrief! That's a tad over the top chocolatekimmy. Presumably you've only ever had the medical profession great you with open arms and tell you that you were right to approach them with your child's sniffles and that yes it might well be pneumonia. Unfornately I've been greated too often by tired doctors as a fussy mother over-reacting and have had to fight my children's corner to prove that I was right in my gut feelings etc. Unfortunately my gut feelings have ended up right to often for comfort (although I don't wish to sound like we spend every weekend up at A&E ) nevertheless being met by this sort of reaction is unpleasant and demoralising and its great to come on here and simply say "hey guys before I start this off what do you think". Funnily enough from the moment Boco's first post echoed my concerns I promptly phoned NHS direct. From there after a couple of call backs I've been put through to my local gp after hours care and my dh has now gone off to the emergency out of hours doctors at the local hospital. My dh would have ignored the whole issue in favour of getting some sleep. Whatever happens from here be it a simple stomach bug or appendicitus (fingers crossed for the stomach bug) at least I know that other mums out there would have done the same. Sometimes in the later hours of the evening/night its great to be able to simply talk it through with someone that isn't going to huff and puff and sound bored at you being another hypercondriachial (sp?) mother again. (be that the medical profession or the dh/father who would rather stick his head in the sand and hope it goes away) .

Thanks guys. I'll post later/tomorrow to let you know how she got on.

Miaou - that's the odd thing, the coming and going. In the last hour her temp has now dropped back down to almost normal. She's still complaining about the cramps but they're obviously not as bad as she's now far more chatty. My dh wanted to call the whole thing off and put her back to bed. But to me the strangeness of the symptoms coming and going make it worse. We shall see.