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MMR confusion

74 replies

Happy1984 · 07/02/2019 18:13

Hi everyone
I was planning to have my little boy immunised for MMR with the separate injections but have just read that certain variations have now been discontinued nationally.
My reason for separate injections is that I have a brother who is severely autistic, with his symptoms only happening immediately after his MMR when he was around 18mo. Could be coincidence, we will never know, but I wouldn't be able to sleep at night having given my son combined MMR just in case.
Has anyone else gone for separate injections? Can you share your experience pls?
Thanks so much, there's so much info out there, all a bit confusing and I just want to be informed!

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greenelephantscarf · 07/02/2019 18:15

there is no link between autisnm and the mmr vaccination.
none.

go and have dc vaccinated as per schedule.

Nicecupofcoco · 07/02/2019 18:19

Hi happy.
I thought it had been proven, there was no link with the mmr vaccine and autism?
I'm no help unfortunately as my LO had mmr all together and was fine. I do understand you being cautious though with your brother. It's a tough decision isn't it.
Hopefully someone can offer more advice than I can.

PinkDaffodil2 · 07/02/2019 18:22

Hi, it’s been proven conclusively that MMR is not linked to autism - probably the only thing in the world we know for sure isn’t because it has been investigated so much after the scare! I’d have a look at the level of evidence available and consider why you think single vaccines would be safer.

NotANotMan · 07/02/2019 18:23

Don't be so daft

abbsisspartacus · 07/02/2019 18:25

Autism is never really diagnosed before 18 months anyway that's why they thought there was a link get him done via mmr

Happy1984 · 07/02/2019 18:27

Thanks guys.
Obviously I'm aware that this stuff has been "proven" but unfortunately there are thousands of families in the UK just like ours who've had devastating outcomes after the MMR, who still feel nervous around giving it to their own kids.
Not looking for any parent bashing here! Just wondered if anyone else had gone down this route and what they did around the rubella vaccine that's not available singularly now.
Thanks!!

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TulipsTulipsTulips · 07/02/2019 18:27

Why are there suddenly so many anti-vaxx threads? Is there some lobby group trying to infiltrate mumsnet?

Happy- if you want to be informed speak to a doctor, not canvass ideas on social media.

Your doctor can refer you to all the peer reviewed and verified studies on this specific topic and advise you regarding the risks of all the options available.

Furrycushion · 07/02/2019 18:27

There is no link. Honestly, it's not a conspiracy or an idea, it's scientific fact.

(Another vaccination thread?? Hmm)

TheFaerieQueene · 07/02/2019 18:28

No another one.

Celebelly · 07/02/2019 18:30

The reason so many children are diagnosed 'shortly' after their MMR is because that's generally the earliest you can properly diagnose autism in a child and when symptoms become actually apparent.

In fact, the MMR is probably one thing that you can be confident won't cause autism as it's had so much research and attention, way more than a lot of other potential environmental influences and medication. Genetic links are much more likely.

Intothedenofvipers · 07/02/2019 18:32

There is no link between MMR vaccines and Autism. All reports which made the link have been widely and thoroughly discredited.

However, Measles can end to life threatening complications, Mumps can lead to viral meningitis which can kill, Rubella can be spread to pregnant women and cause miscarriage.

The MMR vaccine can prevent all this and doesn’t cause Autism.

bluerody · 07/02/2019 18:33

@TulipsTulipsTulips I know! Every day there is a new anti vaccination thread started 🙄

dietcokemegafan · 07/02/2019 18:35

There's no link. And no way to singly vaccinate. I realise it's scary and am sorry to hear about your brother but you need to protect your child.

Happy1984 · 07/02/2019 18:38

Wow, you girls are nasty. Please no negative comments here, I'm just a mum looking for anyone else with a similar experience.
Clarification - 30 years ago MMR was administered at 18 months. My brother went from being a walking, talking toddler to losing all of that within a few days so despite the government saying it's proven that there's no link, it's something that keeps me up a night, thousands of families are in our same position and that's why I'm researching. Separate vaccines are still available in the States so I just wondered why not here.

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swanlife · 07/02/2019 18:38

Although it can seem scary if you have relatives with autism which occured around the same time as MMR there is absolutely NO evidence the MMR vaccine causes autism. The only study to ever say it did (Wakefield) used a tiny sample size of individuals who already had autism. The author who wrote the paper was at the time trying to sell his individual single shots (so massive conflict of interest). The MMR jab is given around the same time as autistic symptoms tend to appear so it is just coincidence.
Actual links to autism like maternal obesity and gestational diabetes seems to be routinely being ignored by the public in favour of vaccine scares.
I'm a biologist and honestly if anyone researching had any data to agree with the autism MMR link it would be published. Do right by your kid and if you can't get the shots you prefer go for the MMR. Measles is nasty and does kill.

swanlife · 07/02/2019 18:39

I imagine because it's more cost effective for the NHS to administer MMR. If they're not available privately it'd be a regulatory approval issue

NotANotMan · 07/02/2019 18:40

Because there is no link between the combined vaccine and autism and because the NHS provides a vaccine that is the most cost effective AND efficient covering three diseases at once

NotANotMan · 07/02/2019 18:40

We aren't 'girls' and we aren't 'nasty'

greenelephantscarf · 07/02/2019 18:46

it's not the government saying there is no link. it's many many drs and scientists who went through years and years of data.

there. is. no. link. between. mmr. vaccine. and. autism.

Mrskeats · 07/02/2019 18:49

Not another one. Biscuit

Happy1984 · 07/02/2019 18:50

Thank you all for being so helpful.
Obviously I am vaccinating my child on schedule with every other child, I'm not putting him at any risk.
Was just asking what others experiences were on separate vaccines.
Forget I asked.

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DartmoorDoughnut · 07/02/2019 18:51

There is no link between vaccines and autism.

Hope that helps.

Furrycushion · 07/02/2019 18:53

If single vaccines aren't available, they aren't available. Why would companies stock single vaccines that aren't needed?

HalfBloodPrincess · 07/02/2019 18:53

My toddler is showing signs of autism - we’ve just started the long battle of investigations into getting him diagnosed.

He started showing symptoms a few weeks after having his mmr.

I’m currently pregnant, and this baby will be getting her mmr at a year old.

MMR doesn’t not cause autism.

Dinosaursdontgrowontrees · 07/02/2019 19:06

Ok happy1984 I have a daughter who has autism that developed shortly after the mmr. I understand your concerns I really do. When my son reached 18 months I was really anxious even though I know in my heart that there is obviously no link. I spoke to my gp, health visitor and local nurse who all assured me there was nothing to worry about and I also did a ton of research. My son had his mmr (he didn’t develop autism) im really glad he did.
I would strongly recommend speak to a health care professional about your worries.

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