MMR confusion

[Happy1984]

Hi everyone
I was planning to have my little boy immunised for MMR with the separate injections but have just read that certain variations have now been discontinued nationally.
My reason for separate injections is that I have a brother who is severely autistic, with his symptoms only happening immediately after his MMR when he was around 18mo. Could be coincidence, we will never know, but I wouldn't be able to sleep at night having given my son combined MMR just in case.
Has anyone else gone for separate injections? Can you share your experience pls?
Thanks so much, there's so much info out there, all a bit confusing and I just want to be informed!

True. I think it’s complicated by the rationale.

It’s very difficult to get single vaccines. I’m not even sure it’s possible right now. Given that the reason for single vaccines is underpinned by a fear of vaccine damage, it’s not a leap to assume that in the absence of single vaccines, OP won’t vaccinate.

"the only single vaccines in the UK are unlicensed products that have been imported into the country'"

That's because the licence lapsed for administrative reasons. There were no concerns about effectiveness.

As long as the logistic supply chain is good (as it should be for all places such as travel clinics, which offer immunisations privately, and which people have no qualms about using) then there is no reason to be concerned about the single jab.

The concern is over leaving your DC unprotected for the diseases for which there is no single jab currently in production. And by choosing to reduce the proportion of the herd which is immunised, raising the chances that the disease will circulate again, raising the risk that your child will have the disease (along with all people who cannot be immunised for medical reasons, or whose parents choose to leave them vulnerable)

Why are there suddenly so many anti-vaxx threads?

How is it an anti-vaxx thread. Op wants to vaccinate her child! Typical pro-vaxx hysteria!

cptartapp
There is no greater incidence of autism in those children that have had the mmr than those that haven't. Research has shown that.

Can you please link some studies showing this?

You can’t get separate vaccinations, even privately, at the moment in this country. However, increasingly your child could get mumps or measles as growing numbers are not vaccinated.

I can understand your worries but the link between MMR and autism has been categorically disproven. However, the link between measles and it being the world’s most preventable death stands.

I’m glad to read that you will be going ahead with the vaccination schedule for your child.

scoot is that a serious question? There is no link between MMR and autism. The doctor that suggested that has be struck off and his research widely discredited.

"The doctor that suggested that has be struck off and his research widely discredited."

I suggest you read his paper. He was investigating digestive issues in the children. Their parents suggested a link to autism and his paper did not find evidence of a link. He merely suggested more research needed to be done.

And how on earth does a tiny study being discredited prove there is no link between the two things.

There is no link. That has been proven numerous times.

@ScootalooWho sit down with this website for a couple of hours and educate yourself.

briandeer.com/mmr/lancet-summary.htm

Haha! Brian Deer!!

Also this statement from the national autistic society make it pretty clear

www.autism.org.uk/get-involved/media-centre/position-statements/mmr-vaccine.aspx

I genuinely hate anti vaxxers & think they’re the scum of the earth.

Not saying OP is one btw but Scoot rather sounds like one who has “done their research” 🙄

I’m sure this will get deleted but I do feel better for saying that

Agree 100% Dartmoor

I genuinely hate anti vaxxers & think they’re the scum of the earth.

That says more about you than it does about them. Most "antivaxxers" were provax before experiencing severe adverse reactions in their child. I'm pro safe-vaxx and I work in research and have a scientific background, but do you know what research I did? I phoned the manufacturers and had a very interesting chat. I also spoke to PHE. PHE told me that the MMR is as safe as injecting water! Seriously. I am sure even the most hardened provaxxer doesn't agree with THAT...yet they are supposed experts on public health! The manufacturers were more honest (weirdly).

scoot seriously, that's what you took from that conversation?!

I got my information from a professor in immunology. I'm happy to trust that source of information.

So bloody offensive anyway that you’d rather risk a deadly disease than the risk of ASD. (And that’s without discussing how bullshit the correlation is.)

Years ago, when mine were little I wanted to go down the single vaccination route. So I delayed MMR. I got home from work one day and found a note in my sons nursery bag about a suspected measles outbreak in nursery. I felt sick and scared that I hadn't vaccinated and booked in asap.
It turned out not to be measles and it also turned out that my children are autistic. I am also fully aware that it had NOTHING to do with the vaccine.
Please just do it.

Yes, if you don't repeat the dogma that all vaccines are the absolute, best thing to have ever existed and pose no risk to anyone and should be completely mandatory for all, you're labelled as stupid, idiot, told to die, that you're 'scum' etc etc.

I understand your concerns, you're only human. Sorry I can't offer any advice as I've always only been given the MMR for my kids. Hope you get some considered answers. :-)

I don't think anyone says that vaccinations are 100% safe...as with everything there is a small risk BUT unless you have a medical reason not to then you are being incredibly irresponsible by not vaccinating your children.

Thinking that MMR causes autism is completely wrong. There is zero credible evidence of a link. That is a fact.

Hi Happy. Wow, I'm so shocked everyone jumps on your question with...Just get it done. I can understand why you're anxious due to your history. I believe every person is different and not every medicine is fit for everybody. Let's face it...if 1 out of 10 children did get effected they would rule out any risk as autisum isn't life threatening so it's ok. I know the study was discredited and they claim all is well etc but at the end of the day it's a parents decision so go with your gut. I've postponed my sons vaccine. They can have them at any time from 1 year and I know a lot of people that haven't had their child vaccinated too so you're not alone.

Autism is often first noticed at 18 months due to regressions made. This can be a a part of autism and has no relation to any immunisation. Also, autism has a high genetic component. If people in the family have it, a child's risk is higher. This has nothing to do with any immunisation, medical treatment or parenting style. I think people need to be educated about autism.

The op is not an anti vaxer. Purely asking people to share experience of giving singular vaccinations.