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I want to stagger 12 month vaccinations not sure what order

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vaccinationquery · 26/12/2018 13:15

From what I can see online it’s
Men b
Hib/men c
Pcv
Mmr

I want to split them possibly to do 2 at a time but not sure which 2 to put together first.
Has anyone else done this ? What order did you do it in

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ISdads · 28/12/2018 19:08

Oh it's such a drama about the pain. Honestly!! It takes a quarter of a second.

Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 28/12/2018 20:08

@ragged I don’t think anyone is suggesting doing each of the components of the 6 in 1 (as is used now) or the MMR singly. I don’t think that’s even possible. We’re talking about spreading out the individual injections (so for 1 year olds PCV, Hib/MenC, MenB, MMR). The MMR is live so doesn’t need adjuvant, but you’ve still got three lots of adjuvant there, so the question is whether to give all at once in one visit, or spread it over several visits and let the body clear it in between. The total adjuvant is exactly the same either way (it’s just as one hit or spread out).

FWIW we’ve spread out vaccines routinely for some time and I find that one needle prick is forgotten in a second (especially if chocolate is offered) but three or four in one sitting is a much bigger ordeal (before you even get to side effects), so I’m not convinced by the ‘suffering less’ argument. The incomplete coverage thing is one of the arguments against doing it routinely as, frankly, parents aren’t trusted to turn up for all the appointments, but IME the parents who request a spread out schedule tend to be very much on top of it and make sure their kids are fully covered. You still get the reminder letters even with a spread out schedule so it’s hard to forget tbh.

ISdads · 28/12/2018 20:30

Single mmr components were stopped a long time ago, which was very disruptive for us personally. I 'think' they were stopped for political reasons really.

emzw12 · 28/12/2018 20:36

Give a dose of calpol or ibuprofen before the jabs. My son had a high temp over 40 with jabs but kept it down with calpol and ibuprofen and was fine the following morning.

vaccinationquery · 29/12/2018 20:22

After reading up a bit more I’m wondering g whether to just do the mmr at a different time and do 3 jabs then 1 at another time
I’ll continue to look into the options all I know is I def don’t want to do all at same time

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bluefolder · 30/12/2018 06:44

I’ll continue to look into the options all I know is I def don’t want to do all at same time

why? you've given no coherent or evidence based reason as to why you want to subject your poor child to two painful appointments instead of one.

bluefolder · 30/12/2018 06:45

I 'think' they were stopped for political reasons really.

they were stopped as there is no evidence for benefit of splitting, plenty of evidence for harm (children don't get taken for all of the imms) and the mumps component became unavailable. Hope that helps @ISDads

ISdads · 30/12/2018 07:56

Well it didn't help my child, no, but that's for rather complicated and unusual health based reasons. Single vaccine would have been far more helpful.

Mmr is enormously politicised. I see shadows of the same 'one size fits all', have the triple or nothing, attitude on this thread. The problem with that is that some parents will choose nothing. Sometimes the nanny state approach backfires.

vaccinationquery · 30/12/2018 09:22

My reason is because I don’t want to overload him and cause a very high fever. I think it will be better to split them or st the very least do the mmr on a different day.
I don’t need to have a research study to back up my choices.... it’s just my choice based on my judgement of what I feel is best for my child
Of course I don’t want him to have more pain and upset but either way he has to have 4 injections ?? To be honest seeing what he was like with the others previously after the second one each time he was inconsolable so probably better to stop at that and then return another day
I was just trying to get advice on the best combination and I think whatever way I do it the mmr needs to be separate and a priority as currently I’m told there are rising numbers of measles cases and as he has no immunity whatsoever from me it’s probably sensible

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Sidge · 30/12/2018 09:29

We’ve not had totally single vaccines for a very long time. I think single measles vaccine was introduced in 1968 then in the early 1980s MR was used (measles and rubella) before MMR was introduced in 1988.

The NHS has never offered single component vaccines for MMR and parents had to go private if they wanted them, which as far as I’m aware was only an issue after the Wakefield situation in the late 90s.

vaccinationquery · 30/12/2018 09:33

Sorry I mean the mmr separately as in the 3in 1 jab at a different time not the 3 components separately I should have made that clearer

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Sidge · 30/12/2018 09:41

Sorry @vaccinationquery my last post was in response to @ISdads - I took so long to write it I cross posted with you!

I would suggest MMR and one other (I’d suggest Hib/Men C) on one occasion, then maybe Men B and pneumo a month later.

vaccinationquery · 30/12/2018 10:38

Yes I think the ones he hasn’t had any of probably are better as I do worry a lot about the fact I haven’t passed on any immunity for measles at all so sooner the better for that

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bruffin · 30/12/2018 14:04

Just go and talk it over with your GP

bluefolder · 30/12/2018 15:36

@bruffin waste a gp appt as well as an extra nurse one? Great idea.

bruffin · 30/12/2018 16:03

Op needs proper advice concerning her son. My gp offered hospital setting for ds who had multiple febrile convulsions. Op is concerned about a history of high temperatures then a gp will give her better advice than random strangers on the internet.

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