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Vaccination and shedding advice with another child?

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Twocatsonebaby · 10/03/2018 20:05

I ask if you aren't going to be nice, please don't comment.
My dd has a play date on Monday with a little boy who's had his 16 week vaccines around a week ago.
I've read they shed. My dd is unvaccinated (I ask for you to be respectful. It's our choice and I did consult numerous doctors in this decision.) and I'm worried because the 16 week vaccines are the 6in1, menB and pneumococcal.
I've also read that the viruses can be picked up if you mess with babies poo, changing etc up to 28 days.
So I'm all for her having a play date but a little worried. If they do shed are they transferable through shared toys etc if they're put in the mouth? I'd rather leave it past 28 days but I mean. You can never be sure of who you're sat next to anyway I'm public and what they have.

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FacelikeaBagofHammers · 10/03/2018 20:07

Well, the simplest solution would be to vaccinate your child and then they'll be protected.

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Twocatsonebaby · 10/03/2018 20:09

I'm not going to go into why we haven't. There's a very long list of reasons. An numerous doctors have advised me not to anyway as well as research with one who's a family friend. It is our choice and we are sticking to it with advice from experienced doctors and homeopaths.

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123bananas · 10/03/2018 20:17

Live virus vaccines can cause shedding.

The one you are thinking of is rotavirus given at 8 and 12 weeks. The advice is to avoid stool contact and practice hygiene for 14 days afterwards.

As you said anyone can have a virus/bacteria and pass it to your child at any time and you wouldn't know because they are often infectious before symptoms appear.

Steeley113 · 10/03/2018 20:17

They’re hardly going to be bloody ‘playing’ at 16 weeks let’s be honest.

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Fondantfancypant · 10/03/2018 20:17

This should have been something you asked the numerous doctors so you could make an informed decision. I'm saying that as this won't be the only time she could come into contact with someone who's had recent imms...the only vaccination I was ever warned to be careful was the rotavirus which sheds in the poo. I have relatives with immune issues so did need to be careful taking my kids near them after those ones. However I don't know the others don't 100%

applesandpears56 · 10/03/2018 20:17

I can’t really see what the risk would be to your child
And find it crazy you worry about being exposed to the minimal minimal not there at all risk of a vaccine - when you let your child play at a soft play centre or in nursery or school they are playing next to children with measles, men b etc real diseases with real virus and bacteria. Why don’t you worry about this risk?!

FacelikeaBagofHammers · 10/03/2018 20:18

Homeopaths?

Confused

Tbh, I'm not sure you're going to get much support here unless your child has a serious medical contraindication. And if you're consulting homeopaths, I doubt that's the case. Please correct me if I'm wrong though. Your daughter will be at risk of picking up viruses for the rest of her life, it's not just from kids who are shedding, (I've never heard of that btw). Unfortunately the return of measles can be attributed to unvaccinated kids and you can't easily protect your daughter from that when she's at school etc.

Tantay · 10/03/2018 20:22

At 16 weeks you could just keep baby in carrycot/sling/pushchair. Is this the only play date with recently vaccinated children you will have? It may be best to just avoid play dates in that case.

Callamia · 10/03/2018 20:24

They’re four months old? It’s not much of a play date is it?

You’re thinking about rotavirus, but I’m sure since you’ve done your research, then you know all this already. Shedding of live vaccines is only an issue for someone who is immuno-compromised. Your daughter is at no greater risk from a recently vaccinated child than she is anywhere else.

iMatter · 10/03/2018 20:29

16 weeks?

That's hardly a "play date"

They can't even sit up let alone play

I imagine it's just the mothers waving the kids arms at each other saying "hello"

Kids are hardly going to be rough and tumble on the floor.

DearTeddyRobinson · 10/03/2018 20:35

Um is this the first time it's occurred to you that your unvaccinated child is at risk from the illnesses you won't vaccinate him/her against? Hmm
Better to only spend time with kids whose vaccines are no longer shedding I guess.
Lucky those parents decided to vaccinate eh?
Oh and homeopathy has been completely debunked. It's a revenue generating operation only.

horseknickers · 10/03/2018 20:46

Nope. I can't be kind. I would request that you stay away from gatherings of children in future as your child could be a danger to children with medical problems. Also please could you stay away from gatherings of anyone who may be compromised such as sick or elderly adults? Why should your choices put others at risk? You're clearly worried about your child whilst not giving a shit about anyone else.

NerrSnerr · 10/03/2018 20:48

If only there was a way to avoid catching the diseases that vaccinations prevent. Hmm

I’m sure the homeopaths will help if she does catch something...

fruitlovingmonkey · 10/03/2018 20:50

It’s the other parent who should be worried.

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Twocatsonebaby · 10/03/2018 20:54

Oh ffs. Literally can anyone just not offer advice instead of slating me for a situation you all know nothing about regarding my daughter. Consulting homeopaths as well as professional doctors? No?
Thanks to the one pp who offered actual advice in which vaccine sheds and the time limit it sheds for.

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Twocatsonebaby · 10/03/2018 20:58

If your vaccines worked why is my child a risk to yours?
I want genuine advice here. Not some women telling me off because I refuse to vaccinate my own child, my responsibility, because of autoimmune diseases and numerous allergies that we have in the family.

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applesandpears56 · 10/03/2018 20:58

Homeopaths aren’t qualified in anything

PaddyF0dder · 10/03/2018 20:58

I’m going to be really, really respectful. Not to you though. To your kid, and to people impacted by your ignorant and stupid decision.

Vaccinate your child.

Namechangemum100 · 10/03/2018 20:58

Op, I think the problem is that you have chosen to not vaccinate for your own reasons, which ultimately does put others at risk.

Without disclosing your reasons why, you would like others to advise you on her to protect your children...do you see how this is a bit hypocritical?

Perhaps if you explain your reasoning, you will receive a more understanding and helpful response.

applesandpears56 · 10/03/2018 21:00

my Daughter has immune problems - usually it’s only the live ones that you might not give - the dead ones everyone should be vaccinated with
I really do think you should speak with s proper immune dr - get her tested for the things you fear rather than put her at risk by ignorance

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Twocatsonebaby · 10/03/2018 21:01

I understand hypocrisy. But why should I have to if all I get is beaten down? I just wanted to know if these particular vaccines shed.

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Namechangemum100 · 10/03/2018 21:03

Perhaps you wouldn't have if you had been more transparent in your op.

Vaccines are a very emotive subject, it was inevitable that you would receive responses like this to a question such as yours with such little detail or explanation.

LilQueenie · 10/03/2018 21:04

oh stop being so bloody judgy. You don't need a reason why the child isn't vaccinated. Certain vaccines do shed and it bothers me that not enough people know that. Iv'e heard some stories locally of mums vaxxing their child days before a playdate to protect another child with no immune system. That could be deadly.

OP totally respect your choice. At that age you will be more concerned but it does ease up as they get older and stronger. It's unlikely you child will pick up the virus from shedding if healthy enough in general.