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Mum vomited blood . What does it mean?

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Dowser · 20/10/2016 17:29

Bit of background. Mum has dementia and is in a nursing home which seems very good. She's 88 .
Yesterday through the night she vomited and there was some blood.
Today she vomited again ' a significant amount of blood'.
They managed to take blood today, yesterday she wouldn't let them.

A dr has been called. They hope to get the blood results tomorrow.

It would appear if it's anything nasty, it would not be in her best interests to treat it.

She's stopped eating and drinking but they are monitoring her all the time to make sure she's comfortable.

Now the confusing bit...she's not on the end of life pathway but can treat her as if she was. She's alert and sat up in bed where she is most comfortable. If she's in any pain they can give her morphine. They are trying to temp her with food but she doesn't want it. She normally has a healthy appetite.

Sept 1 st they went in to see to her and she she couldn't move out of bed. The day before she walked all around the home. They thought it had brought on some sort of arthritic pain. Mum has never really suffered with arthritis. She was checked out at hospital and then returned to the nh.

They gave her pain patches which has kept the pain under control. They definitely don't think she's had a stroke although she has vascular dementia and has had Tia's in the past.

They did get her on her feet and walking to the dining room with help but then she went back over and the walking stopped.

I just can't seem to make sense of it at all.

Has anyone else experienced this with an older relative.

At least I know mum's in good hands. Vomiting blood though ..what on earth could that be and is it connected to the events of sept 1st.

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wfrances · 23/10/2016 22:12

im sorry about your mum
i vomit /cough /burp blood when my reflux worsens
mine comes from my oesophagus.
i also can't eat because i cant swallow , it usually settles with me after a few days of peptac and ranitidine and( iv fluids when prolonged)
my bleeding has always stopped by itself.
the blood test is probably to check her haemoglobin levels ,when my bleeding lasts over 24 hrs they check my levels to check if it's stopped.
i also suffer severe vomiting cycles which can lead to a bleed , this is usually a burst blood vessel or a small tear.
im waffling ,but just wanted you to know its not always a major thing.

WhatWouldLeslieKnopeDo · 24/10/2016 00:49

Flowers Dowser I hope your mum is doing alright, and that you get more news tomorrow. It's good that she has a sensible doctor who understands her needs. Fingers crossed for you.

Dowser · 27/10/2016 23:26

Flew home from holiday Tuesday night, had a few hours sleep then went to see mum yesterday afternoon.

The situation is not good. I told her what a lovely mum she's been, how much I loved her and her job here was now done and she was free to join dad, her parents and her brother and sister.I don't think she even recognises me.

Went back again today. Had a long chat with the lead nurses. Apparently the blood she brought up was like two cup fouls.They've spoken about giving her morphine for the pain. She was wincing, groaning every five minutes . Once they start with the morphine mum will start to slip away.
I couldn't say yes. She's not eaten in a week but still has sips of water but I did ask for another visit from the doctor.

I think tomorrow after the visit she will be put on the injections.
Her blood results weren't poor but then the blood was taken a week ago.
Who knows what they will be like now.
My son has just rang. Made me jump out of my skin. He wants to be notified when she's ready to pass over so he can sit with her.

I don't want to do that. I'm tortured enough. The nurses will sit with her.
Just awful .

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Dowser · 27/10/2016 23:26

They've spoken.

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ChishandFips33 · 28/10/2016 06:51

I'm so sorry to hear the news has worsened Dowser

It was lovely of you to tell what a great mum she's been and giver her 'permission' to go - I think sometimes it's what some hang on for, if that makes sense

Sending you strength Flowers

Dowser · 28/10/2016 07:20

Thank you chishand.
I'm just trying to muddle through and do what feels best for mum.
Haven't had a lot of sleep.
See what today brings ....

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WhatWouldLeslieKnopeDo · 28/10/2016 07:33

I'm so sorry Dowser Flowers

What you said to her was so kind.

My grandmother had morphine when she was dying. She drifted in and out of consciousness. She was very peaceful. Then she fell asleep and her breathing slowed down until eventually it stopped.

Everyone copes with death differently so it's perfectly understandable you don't want to be there, but also that your son does. You've already said goodbye and given her your blessing.

I hope that she is kept comfortable and peaceful Flowers

Dowser · 28/10/2016 22:56

Thank you Leslie and everyone.
Went back this afternoon. Nurse had said she seemed more settled today.
She certainly wasn't while I , my son and dil were there. She was very agitated and seemed to be in awful pain.
The sisters took the decision to start administering morphine . They gave her a low dose and even then she didn't settle.
I had to come away for a doctor's appointment.
Just rang the nh .She hasn't settled, they gave her more morphine after we left and nurse is waiting till 11 to give her more or some sort of sedative.

:-(

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WhatWouldLeslieKnopeDo · 28/10/2016 23:08

I'm really sorry to hear that Dowser. Unfortunately some people become agitated near the end. There's a name for it, but I cannot remember it. I hope that they have found something to help her to relax Flowers

Wayfarersonbaby · 29/10/2016 00:56

Flowers Thinking of you, Dowser - such a sad and traumatic time Flowers

Windyone · 29/10/2016 01:03

So sorry to hear this. Can I just ask, does she take medication for any ongoing conditions, if so what does she take?

Dowser · 29/10/2016 10:27

The doctor stopped all her medications a week ago as she was refusing them.
She had been on aricept and goodness knows what else.
I'm going to start planning her funeral. If a death is unexpected you often only have a short window to cobble something together so I'm going to use this time to think about what songs, what I'm going to say.
I've already found a lovely black and white photo of mum and dad when they were just courting that will go on her coffin.
I'll have it enlarged and put in a nice frame. My mum looked like a film star in it. She still has lovely skin and hands.

I'm thinking of songbird by Eva Cassidy. I had it for my aunts funeral and it was just beautiful. We also had the Beatles in my life and love lift us up where we belong.

I'm not doing hymns. I want no dirges or anything mournful. Mum had a lovely life. She's been well loved by everyone.

I'll have to try and think of some of her favourite songs . I bought her Simon and garfunkels's bridge over troubled water and she loved it but that might make me cry which isn't good if I'm doing the speech.

Any suggestions well received.
While sat at her side yesterday I dowsed to see who was with her. Both me and my dil thought she kept saying ' mam'. When I dowsed both her mam and dad were with her but not my dad.
I'm sure he'll turn up on the day though.

I'll ring the nh after lunch. I'm not planning on going today. I'm not sleeping well.

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Dowser · 30/10/2016 12:23

They are keeping her asleep. Pain breaks through when she's awake. Had the doctor to her this morning and another one calling in tomorrow.
I slept about 9 hours. I was exhausted.

I don't think I'm ever going to find out what has caused this but it doesn't matter. She's having first class care. Cannot fault them.
You hear a lot about ch/ nh but mums care has been fantastic.
Senior Staff have even popped in on their day off.

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BeautyGoesToBenidorm · 30/10/2016 12:30

Thinking of you, Dowser. I know this is insurmountably difficult. You've shown your mum kindness and compassion and you have left her in no doubt that she's very, very much loved.

We're here for you Flowers

Dowser · 01/11/2016 10:09

Thank you all so very much.
I called in yesterday afternoon after not seeing her since Friday and got an awful shock at how much she had deteriorated.

I've barely slept all night. I think I knew she was ready to pass.
We got the call at 8-30 to say she went peacefully at 5am.

I'm so thankful her nightmare is over. I looked at the date and it's been barely two weeks since this all began but feels much longer.

Mums out of pain now. . Our journey together is over.

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Wayfarersonbaby · 01/11/2016 16:33

Oh Dowser - so sorry Flowers

Thinking of you and your lovely mum. She's not in pain or distress any more.Flowers

stayathomegardener · 01/11/2016 16:35

So sorry for your loss Dowser
Flowers

ImperialBlether · 01/11/2016 16:43

I'm so sorry.

Flowers
steppinstone · 01/11/2016 16:53

How lovely to read of your lovely mum. You write so warmly of her. Condolences. Xx

Rosa · 01/11/2016 16:54

Dementia is the pits, it is a horrible , horrible disease ..I am so sorry for you , I love your thoughts about the funeral that you have written - wishing you strength x

Comiconce · 01/11/2016 19:12
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ChishandFips33 · 01/11/2016 19:13

FlowersFlowers for you Dowser and your family.

She was there for you and you for her and will live on in your heart and memories

Dowser · 01/11/2016 21:06

Thank you so much everyone. Mn at its best.
I'm all talked out today letting the extended family know.
Met the family for lunch which was lovely, a gorgeous sunny day with the sun coming down through the last of the leaves on the trees on the drive to the restaurant.

I'm dithering over what she should wear for her funeral.. I'm torn between a glittery top and sparkly trousers or thicker trousers and and a really elegant top. Mum loved her clothes and it's ages since she's been dressed up.
these are the last loving things I can do for my mum . It gives me comfort to know how smart she'll be.

This is the song I'll have played as we leave her at the crematorium

m.youtube.com/watch?v=fahr069-fzE

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steppinstone · 01/11/2016 23:57

That's such a lovely song. One of my faves. :)

And I LOVE the idea of something sparkly. I might make that compulsory at my own funeral. :)

X

OvariesBeforeBrovaries · 02/11/2016 00:01

Sending love Dowser. Your lovely mum is at peace and will live on forever in the memories you have with her. Flowers

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