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Thrush is ruining my life!!!!! NO EXAGGERATION!!!!!!

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Ammy12 · 14/12/2006 21:32

I suffer from recurrent thrush. It drives me insane. Five times a month is not unusual. I live on clotrimazole, fluconazole, miconazole, nystatin, white wine vinegar, soya milk. I'm so fed up!!!!! I saw a mega lovely consultant 3 months ago who prescribed nystan tablets (1,000,000 units a day for 28 days for anyone who knows what I'm on sbout!) and fluconazole 150mg once a month and the first month was great, second month not so good and now I'm back to square one. What next?????!!!!!!!!! Anybody else got any answers???????!!!!!!!! xxx

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Ammy12 · 15/12/2006 22:23

will keep you posted- have a good christmas if i dont come on here wanting to talk fanjos before then!

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Ammy12 · 15/12/2006 22:24

what do you do?

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BuffysMum · 15/12/2006 22:25

Ammy just wanted to send you hugs because I can't imagine how unbearable it mut be, I've had a few problems down there which they've never got to the bottom of but nothing on that scale. My huge sympathies and I really hope you press on to find a cure

Ammy12 · 15/12/2006 22:26

fanx!! xxx

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HelloMama · 15/12/2006 22:26

GUM ! I'll bet you'll rock up in my clinic next week yapping about some advice you had on a website forum !

HelloMama · 15/12/2006 22:27

Hope you have a good christmas too - itch free [hmmm] !

Ammy12 · 15/12/2006 22:28

Serious!! Whereabouts? I work in a hosp as a pharmacy tech so will be avoiding the local area anyway!!

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HelloMama · 15/12/2006 22:28
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HelloMama · 15/12/2006 22:29

southwest area. My husband is now yelling 'fanjo guru' at me and sniggering!

Ammy12 · 15/12/2006 22:31

I've got to say- and I mean this truly- you guys at GUM do a great job, its about time people started taking this stuff seriously cos its treating it as a big joke that has got us into the situation of syphillis being rife again and chlamydia living up nearly every fanjo at some point ever! Lets hope it all gets much better.

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Ammy12 · 15/12/2006 22:32

Im in the Midlands so ur safe. I think Fanjo Guru is a fab title. Get a tshirt printed!

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Ammy12 · 15/12/2006 22:33

I meant the attitude towards GUM, not the fanjos when I said hope it all gets better! Although the fanjos do need sorting........Im losing the plot!

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Jimjams2 · 15/12/2006 22:34

some info . In fact thinking about it would be worth searching the autism boards as lots of autistic kids have candida problems so its something that gets talked about a lot.

Ammy12 · 15/12/2006 22:35

Thank you jimjam xxxxxx

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3Kissesunderthemistletoe · 16/12/2006 00:09

I'm so please I found this thread, I was wondering if anyone else on mumsnet suffered and now I feel a bit better to know I'm not the only one!!

I had my little boy in Feb and have always been prone to thrush but since having him {by section} I have had chronic recurrent thrush. It is driving me insane!!! I am currently having another attack, used cansten pessary on Tues and Wed I needed to call the doctors and speak to the nurse and it was AGONY!!! I had to literally sit with a cold pack between my legs. Have been given something else to use now but it's a case of get rid for a few weeks, suffer worse than last time. I normally suffer when I am due on but this time is mid month which is a pain as we are trying for baby number two and sex is out of the question at the moment. I used natural yoghurt earlier on in the week and it made it worse, sex irritated it aswell and by Tuesday it was terrible. My nurse actually knows me for it now.

I am going to try a few of the things you suggested on this thread, I'm so glad I'm not the only one suffering but know what you are going through and it is miserable and depressing. I'm starting to feel desperate now and it is really getting me down. I'm currently taking acidophillius from the health store, actimels every day (which I will cut out now as I didnt realise it had loads of sugar in!!), cansten seems to make it worse these days too and the nurse things I'm immune to it!! Great eh!! If it keeps on I think I will ask to see gynae and see what they suggest. Hopefully we can all be free of thrush very soon!!!

Ammy12 · 16/12/2006 20:05

Oh god its good to know that I'm not the only one 3 kisses! I was starting to think after looking at this thread that it cant possibly be thrush and must be more sinister as everything people suggest I've tried all ready. Chronic thrush really does exsist- and although anti-fungals give some relief for a while it soon comes back worse than ever!!

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ninja · 16/12/2006 20:25

I had it really badly on the nipples with breastfeeding (bleeding nipples for 4 months etc) and since then am extremely prone to the more usual variety. When Flucanazole didn't work this diet did - but it's quite severe.

The things NOT to eat

Sugar and foods containing sugar - white sugar, brown sugar, sucorse, fructose, glucose, dextrose, corn syrup, maltose, caramel, golden syrup, treacle, molasses, maple sytrup, honey, sweets, chocolate, marzipan, icing, desserts and puddings, ice cream, cakes and biscuits, soft drinks including squash and all canned drinks, bottle ketchup, chutneys, ice creams and any hidden sugars in processed foods. (if it tastes sweet don't eat it)

Yeast and all foods containing yeast or derived from it. This includes bread and even most pitta breads, foods coated in breadcrumbs, most pizza bases, Marmite, Vecon, Bovril, Oxo, monosodium glutonate, citirc acid and vitamin tablets unless "yeast free stated. (Use Marigold Swiss vegetable bouillon for stock as this is yeast free).

Refined grains - white flour, granary flour, and brown flour (which are white flour with bran and grains added), white rice, white pasta, cornflour, custard powder, cornflakes and cereals unless "whole grain" is stated (Use potato flour as a thickener)

Mala and malted products. Some cereals i.e. Weetabix, brown Ryvita, granary bread, malted drinks like Ovaltine, Horlicks and Caro.

Fermented products - alcoholic drinks, ginger beer, vinegar and all foods cotnaining vinegar (ketchups, pickles, salad creams, baked beans), soya sauce.

Cows milk and most milk product including cream and cheese (Cottage chees and live natural yoghurt are allowed)

Concentrated fruit juices and any cooked fruit eg stewed with sugar, jam marmalade. Peel all fruit.

Dried fruits - prunes, figs raisins, sultanans, dried bananas apricots etc.

Nuts - unless freshly cracked. Avoid peanuts and peanut butter which support the growth of mould.

Smoked or cured fish and meat including ham, bacon, smoked mackerel and smoked salmon.

Preservatives - these are frequently derived from yeasts or introduce a chemical substance to the body.

Mushrooms

Tea and coffee. Drink herbal teas or Barlecup

Hot spices - the irritate the lining of the intestine

THINGS YOU CAN EAT. The sheet actually says "enjoy" before each line but I'll leave that out because half this stuff I'm not sure how the word "enjoy" can be associated with it!

Yeast-free bread made with wholewheat glour or other grains, i.e. soda bread or sourdough rye. Village Bakery (at waitrose) or a very good rye loaf

Rice cakes, oak cakes (malt free), original Ryvita ( not brown, it is malted), Ryvita with sesame seeds, wholemeal crsipbreads (read labels carefully).

Pastry made with wholemeal flour or other grains

Soya milk (sugar free), Rice milk (Rice Dream) or coconut milk (diluted one quarter with water). You will quickly adapt to it on cereal and when cooked with oats or rice it becomes really creamy

Unhydrogenated margarines - Vitasieg or Vitaquell

Plain natural yoghurt - any 'live' variety

Cottage Cheese

Free range eggs

Salad - at least one large plate a day - make dressing out of olive oil and lemon juice, garlic and mixed herbs

Vegetables - eaten raw, steamed or stir fried

Avocados

Potatoes - cooked in many different ways. Lightly salted plain crisps are ok

Fruit - only after a couple fo weeks. Moderate amounts i.e. 3 pieces a day all must be peeled including apples, pears and other hard fruits

Other wholegrains for variety - brown rice, wild rice, millet, oats, buckwheat, barley, rye, Wholemeal pasta, rice pasta spelt pasta, corn pasta.

Fish, seafood, chicken and game. Red meat should be kept to a minimum and preferably organic

Herbs and mild spices i.e. cumin, coriander and tumeric

Drinks - herb teas, camomile tea, mint, ginger, cinnamon, ginseng, Rooibosch tea, hot water with a slice of lemon, Barleycup, V8 vegetable juice, still bottled mineral water, filtered tap water

Onions and garlic - obth of which are highly effective anti-fungal agents

Nuts and seeds - freshly shelled eg coconut, almond, cashew. Seeds - sunflower, pumpkin, and sesame. Avoid peanuts and pistachios

Pulses - beans, lentils, chick peas, i.e. humous

Extra virgin olive oil - use in dressings and to cook with. Avoid all refined oils i.e. any that look bright yellow on the supermarket shelves.

GOOD LUCK It started working for me in a couple of weeks and a less strict version usually keeps it at bay

Ammy12 · 16/12/2006 21:07

Bloody hell ninja- i see what you mean about enjoy being a strong word!! Thank you everyone for all your diet tips- am going food shopping tomorrow armed with lots of new diet choices!!

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ninja · 16/12/2006 21:27

I'm a veggie as well which gave me less choice! At least there's stuff like wholemeal Pasta (although 2 years on I've never finished the packets I didn't eat then) I just ate a lot of rice steamed veg and houmous. On a positive point it was just after Christmas and I lost all that excess chocolate weight!

Ammy12 · 16/12/2006 21:32

and no thrush?

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ImNotUCM · 16/12/2006 21:55

You aren't alone! I've changed my name as anyone who knew me in rl could easily identify me from my posts, but I have bad persistant thrush too. I don't think I've ever had a clear test for it. Referals have excluded diabetes and herpes but just seem to result in treating with weekly dose of fluconazole and canesten pessaries, which relieves symptoms but never seems to clear it completely. As soon as I stop taking them it comes back with a vengence. I too will try the diet - but after xmas I think. I shall also have the (hormonal) coil taken out - I specifically asked gp if that could be agravating it and was told no - but for me it has been worse since it's been in. I'd been considering having it out before reading this thread, but this has settled it.

Ammy12 · 16/12/2006 22:04

im still in 2 minds bout my coil, im quite fond of it but honestly think it will have to go.

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okeydokeygirl · 21/12/2006 22:20

Hi Ammy. Didn't mean to freak you out about herpes. The thing with herpes is that it can be mistaken for other things, and if you think you have one thing, but have another, then the treatment might not be the same, so won't actually help. You can only diagnose herpes when you actually have an attack so it will not show up at another time. You probably don't have it but it is not that freaky if you do, it is manageable, it probably just sounds awful because of the associations. Again, really sorry if I have frightened you as that was not the intention.

bingobongo · 21/12/2006 22:30

I haven't read the whole thread so sorry if this has already been said but is your partner/husband being treated too as it can be passed back and forth if you are in a sexual relationship

thelady · 21/12/2006 23:23

Very briefly: a good friend, her mum and granny all suffered with recurrent (like every 2 weeks) thrush.

Removing all pubic hair cured the problem, and letting it grow back has started it up again. She was off in search of a razor last night!

Just in case that helps.