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Medised overuse

66 replies

enolagay · 22/11/2006 15:46

Hi all i am new to this and i joined to get your opinion because i am so worried. I am pretty sure that i am overusing medised. My baby has always been a akward sleeper and i have a very impatient husband. She is one now and there hasn't been a night when she has slept through. I tried to talk to other mums, but to be met with blank faces as their little treasures sleep from seven till seven every night.
I work full time, i had too as finacially i cant do part time work, but i have found a briliant nursery which i am extremely happy about.
the problem is this because bedtime is a hasstle, my husband always insists on using medised to get my baby to sleep. The most we use is about 1ml, If we don't use it we will be awake about five times. As it is i am only getting four hours sleep stints.
I have tried evrything- GF, bedtime routines- which we still follow, but she still wakes up about twice or three times.
Please don't think i am a bad mother because i love my baby so much but does anyone know of any long term effects and has any one know of any advice of how i can come off medised?

OP posts:
TheHighwayCod · 22/11/2006 15:47

dont buy it
then you wont

hunkermunker · 22/11/2006 15:48

1ml can't have that much effect, IMO.

Is she teething?

TheHighwayCod · 22/11/2006 15:48

i dont blive this post or the hwoel scenario

TheHighwayCod · 22/11/2006 15:48

hunker
step away

CountessDracula · 22/11/2006 15:49

1 ml? ie one fifth of a teaspoon?

Not sure what the long term effects of paracetomal are, but I should imagine that if you use it as a sedative every night that the reason she is always awake if you don't is that she is having withdrawal!

I would stop it and wait a couple of weeks, see if she gets over it

TheHighwayCod · 22/11/2006 15:49

anyoen remmer this thread fom last time?

HuwEdwards · 22/11/2006 15:51

rings a bell

nailpolish · 22/11/2006 15:51

ive never heard of medised

CountessDracula · 22/11/2006 15:55

it's paracetomal with antihistamine in it

Enolagay maybe you should show your dh the last para of this:

This medicine contains two ingredients, paracetamol and promethazine hydrochloride.

Paracetamol is a medicine used to relieve mild to moderate pain. It is also useful for reducing fever. It is not fully understood how paracetamol produces these effects.

Promethazine is known as a sedating antihistamine. It is included in this preparation, not so much for it's antihistamine effect, as for it's sedative effect. Promethazine is known as a sedating antihistamine because it enters the brain, where it causes drowsiness. This feature is useful for aiding restful sleep in children who are irritable and restless because of ailments such as toothache, chickenpox or colds and flu.

The combination of these two medicines are useful in reducing pain and fever associated with conditions such as headaches, toothaches, teething, post-vaccination fevers, chickenpox, colds and flu, and for aiding restful sleep in these conditions.

What is it used for?

Aiding restful sleep

Fever (pyrexia)

Headache

Mild to moderate pain

Nasal irritation and watery discharge

Relief from the symptoms of chickenpox

Relief from the symptoms of feverish colds and flu

Sore throats

Toothache

Warning!

If symptoms persist for more than three days consult your doctor.

No more than 4 doses should be taken in any 24 hour period. Do not exceed the recommended dose.

Do not take this medicine with any other paracetamol containing products.

This medicine may cause drowsiness. Children that are affected should not ride bicycles.

Do not repeat the dose more frequently than every four hours.

Seek immediate medical attention in the event of an overdose even if the child seems well. Any delay may increase the risk of serious liver damage.

This medicine should not be given to children under the age of 2 years, unless on the advice of a doctor.

Flamesparrow · 22/11/2006 15:55

I was thinking it siunded familiar...

lulumama · 22/11/2006 16:01

hopefully , this is for real...

i would not sedate my child to get them to sleep.

why are oyu only getting four hour stints...if she is waking in the night whilst you are using medised, it isnlt working.

so stop it

try a dummy or another soother.....not a drug.

and your DH needs to understand that kids are not predicatable and there will be many more broken nights ahead as DD gets her teeth, if she is ill etc...

giving a paracetomal based drug daily is unhealthy and unnecessary. and when you need to give her paracetomal due to pain..will it work or will she be tolerant of it.

stop tonight .

lulumama · 22/11/2006 16:01

actually, hope it ism;t for real.......

Twohootsunderthemistletoe · 22/11/2006 16:02

CD - my medised doesn't say not to be given to under 2s?? In fact it says can be given from 6 months but the dosage is lower (half a spoon I think).

I try not to use medicines too much all but did give DD a spoonful at lunchtime nap as she is full of cold (it helps her breath and therefore helps her sleep - or that's the idea lol!).

Not sure about this post either ?

ilovecaboose · 22/11/2006 16:05

USing medicine like this as a long term solution risks your baby's health. YOu need to stop today and point out to your husband that he is a fecking idiot.

If this is a joke then you have a sick sense of humour.

Jesus

venusinfurs · 22/11/2006 16:09

Enolagay, you have to STOP doing this. Sorry to be so blunt but you simply have to tackle the sleep issues without medicating your child.
You really do have to stop. You could be causing long term damage to the baby's kidneys or something (I don;t know this for certain - but is it a risk even worth taking?)
Please STOP doing it. Imagine the guilt if she was harmed by this. Please go and see the GP and ask for help. They might give you a telling off, but will give you information you can relay to your husband if it helps you.

LoveMyGirls · 22/11/2006 16:09

if this post is for real then you need to get some back bone and tell your dh to sleep in the spare room/ car whatever if he can't hack it which tbh is bloody pathetic!!!!!!!! and you need to get yourself ready for a rough ride, it is your (both of you, more him than you but by the by) own fault your dd cant sleep without drugs, stop before her health is seriously affected.

she will get over it and will sleep thorugh but you have to stop using it for making her sleep, only use medicine if your child is in pain and really NEEDS it.

venusinfurs · 22/11/2006 16:10

Sorry to be a dimwit, but why do people think this is a wind-up?

nutcracker · 22/11/2006 16:14

Sorry but I wouldn't use it. You won't be teaching her how to go to sleep and so and soon as you stop using it she'll start again.

Dd2 had awful sleep problems and at 1 was perscribed phenergan as she was sleeping 2 hours a night. I gave it her for 2 nights, and yeah she slept but was also totally zombified all the next day so I stopped it.

Longlegs1972 · 22/11/2006 16:20

agree with nutcracker et all. Do you really think that giving a baby something to make it sleep is right? Would you take something every night to make you sleep? You have to stick it out, let her learn to get back to sleep herself. Good luck

lulumama · 22/11/2006 16:25

venus....becauase she is giving her child a sedative nightly on her DH's instruction....which seems very odd......essentially drugging a baby...so, yes, i am hoping this is not for real

nothing wrong with medised for its correct purpose...but not for getting a baby to sleep nightly

Whooooosh · 22/11/2006 16:27

THis is exactly why you cannot buy Phenergan over the counter here in the UK any more-epople were using it to sedate their kids for selfish reasons-not because the child was ill.

thehairybabysmum · 22/11/2006 16:35

I don't understand why people think it's a wind up either. I have 2 friends who use medised and calpol like its going out of fashion...one even uses paracetomol supositories

I find it v. worrying but dont feel i can say owt. One was told last week by her GP that it was ok to use every day...more . Just seems wrong.

At least the OP is wanting to stop using it...im afraid i dont have any practical advice to help though enolagay...maybe just go for it and ttell your husband that medised not a longterm solution so you might as well bite the bullet now.

JennyLeevesmilkandcookiesforSa · 22/11/2006 17:39

I think from the way the post is written that you want to stop using it , so stop. put up with the tiredness your self for the sake of your child, we have all been through sleepless nights it is part of motherhood for lots of people. your dh is wrong , temper or not. who is more importnat your baby of keeping your dh from being grumpy. He also needs to put his child first, if this was safe everyone would do it and sleepless nights would be gone . it isn't , they aren't

JennyLeevesmilkandcookiesforSa · 22/11/2006 17:41

i think this post is real, are you a very nervous unconfident person? as i don't know why you would let your dh insist on doing something like this long term if you really don't want to be.You are the Mother you know what is best for your baby, you obviously want to stop so stop.

SlightlyMadScientist · 22/11/2006 17:46

Interesting choice of MN name...