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Recovering from a haemorrhoidectomy . . . warning: TMI alert . . .

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Puffykins · 10/11/2014 21:13

Has anybody ever had a heamorrhoidectomy, and if so, please can you tell me how long recovery took? I'm on day 12 now, and am still in considerable pain - I can't walk anywhere except the bathroom for the endless baths I take, can barely sit up unless I'm on my special donut cushion and even then only last up to 45 minutes. I have two young children, and I just feel that this is so unfair on them. And I'm getting kind of depressed about my lack of progress. I need someone to give me hope. Please?!
(P.S. If anyone is considering having one: strongly consider it. I've never experienced anything more painful than the first 4 days post op, EVER. I would gladly have given birth every day rather than going through the pain I was subject to.)

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Disneylover1 · 03/04/2019 09:27

Morning @AusLady / @AusLady1 - arghhh! Just typed a huge post then accidentally closed my browser and lost it all 😡 Now to try and remember what I wrote!

So, yesterday was pretty good. I had 2 BMs, both of which were soft and easy to pass, but still had a smear of blood, so I've definitely irritated my fissure again with Monday's big hard BM 😞 Post BM pain wasn't too bad, just that spiky feeling you get from a fissure, but it was milder than usual and passed after a few hours. Once that's passed, I feel normal again, so it's still really just the mornings that are a problem. They're not as bad and painful as they were a few weeks ago though and I can get on and do everything with just the mild discomfort of the fissure thorn. I do worry that my brain is adjusting to this being my 'new normal' though rather than 'still recovering'. I put some rectogesic on last night and managed to get more inside using a cotton bud/q-tip which is a tip I got from a fissure thread on here. Hopefully it will start to heal soon and get strong again, as I really don't want to swap a constant hemmie problem for a constant fissure problem - that would be miserable. I just want a bum that works normally! Hopefully I'll just have 2 BMs again today so that less damage is done to the fissure and it has more time to heal🤞

So, I saw my dietician again yesterday, and that was really interesting. I learnt a lot about transit times and how food is processed and moves through the body. I'd always thought that food came out in the order that it went in, meaning that if I had a snack of a couple of biscuits in the afternoon, that they would form a hard bit of BM that I'd need to pass. However, that's not the case as food digests at different rates and different parts of the colon break down different types of food too, so food can pass other food on its way towards the rectum, which is where the BM forms. So, it pretty much all gets mixed up along the journey to becoming a BM, so as long as you're eating a mix of soluble and insoluble fibre, and drinking plenty of fluid, that the low residue types of food (biscuits, pasta, rice etc) will get picked up and mixed in with that to pass easily. It's when you're eating too many low fibre foods or not drinking enough that you start to get the problems. So, now I don't have to worry as much about having a biscuit and what negative effect that might have. I also learnt that transit time for a healthy gut with someone who has daily BMs is 18-24 hours. So, that means that the BM I had this morning (Wednesday) is likely to be Monday's dinner with Tuesday's breakfast and lunch, not last night's dinner. That's really important when trying to figure out which foods affect your BMs, especially if you're keeping a food diary like I am. Eating the same thing all of the time isn't good either as your body gets used to it and the way it's processed can change, so what might have produced lovely soft BMs to start with, could change over time. By restricting food in this way, you also have a negative impact on some of the healthy gut flora that's not getting the nutrients it needs to flourish and survive. So, I'm now going to work on a 3 day food rotation - basically, eat the same thing for 3 days so that I have a chance to see what my body's reaction to it is, then on day 4 change something (probably dinner) and have that for 3 days and so on, if that makes sense? So, I'm gradually introducing new foods and giving my body a bit of time to adjust so I can see how that affects my BMs. Gosh, I long for the day when I don't have to think about this so much and can just eat and poop like a normal person!

I also asked about different foods and how to introduce them, or whether to avoid them until I'm fully healed. Salads - she recommended lambs lettuce as an easy salad leaf to process, but to take the skin off peppers and tomatoes, and the pips out of tomatoes until I'm fully healed. Having a jacket potato (flesh only, although the skin is my favourite bit!) with salad would help balance out the soluble/insoluble fibre ratio. I also asked about dairy, and she said that shouldn't be an issue provided I'd not had an intolerance to it before, which I haven't, so adding a bit of cheese to my meals should be fine. Not too much though as it can cause BMs to become fatty and sticky, so just slowly to start with.
Tomatoes - I've been avoiding tomato based foods as I was worried about them producing acidic BMs, but she said that the acids in our digestive system actually neutralises the acids in them, do it shouldn't be a problem. She recommended trying passata based sauce with vegetables and a small portion of white pasta to start with and see how that goes. She also suggested putting some cream cheese in to the passata sauce as that would also help neutralise the tomato acids.
Cauliflower - I eat this every day and she said it can be wind forming, which I haven't found. However, what that wind can do is actually whip things up in the colon to make BMs softer, so that's good. I don't think carrots agree with me, so going to steer clear of them for a while. My old boss couldn't eat carrots as found they bunged her up, so I guess I'm not alone in that.

We spoke for about an hour and I'm really pleased I went back to see her. I'll go back again in a couple of weeks after our Glastonbury break too. Holidays always make me a bit nervous, food wise, as we usually eat out a lot and it's harder to control what's going in. However, we've got a lovely cottage with 3 main supermarkets within 10 minutes of us, so I think we'll do more self catering this time to reduce risk and anxiety. I do long for the days when I can go out to eat again without analysing the menu and worrying about what effect my choices might have. It's not too much to ask is it? Just to feel normal again and get on with life without constantly thinking about food and BMs? We'll get there, I'm sure, but it does feel like an endless road sometimes 😞

So pleased to hear that you're enjoying the stewed apple and oat crumble. Are you having custard with it too? I am, but that's mainly because I still need to put weight on, but it does taste really good too! I cooked up a new batch last night, so that it's ready to just warm up in the microwave.

Yes, my wound site is still tender to clean too. It doesn't seem as swollen as it was though, so hopefully that's subsiding and things will toughen up. Am I the only person that looks at my bum in a mirror multiple times a day? It's like habit now - I need to check on it to make sure nothing bad has happened lol!

I'm guessing your 18 hours drive will be split over a few days with hotels along the way? How long are you staying for once you get there? I think in bigger countries, driving 3-4 hours seems like no big deal, but the UK is so small that we're used to everything being nearby, so 3-4 hours seems like a trek lol! We go on Monday, and back on Friday. Really looking forward to it, and one good thing is that our bedroom has an ensuite bathroom, so I won't have to worry about going to the loo to find someone else already in there. Wish I had one at home as nearly had to use the emergency bucket this morning as my son was in the shower 😂

@BrandiJo - I hope that work is going well for you and hadn't been too tiring or stressful. Let us know how you're doing when you get the chance.

Right, I'm off to get breakfast and sit on a hot water bottle to hopefully help heal this damn fissure! Catch up with you all later x

AusLady · 04/04/2019 09:12

Bugger!!! I did the s same as you @Disneylover1!!! I responded then accidentally hit the back key and it disappeared. 😡😡

I hope your fissure heals quickly for you cause that's bullocks you have one. Are you still taking lysine? And i read zinc is good for open wounds too.
I only had the 1 BM today.... don't know if that's a good or a bad thing? I'm hoping I'm not constipated cause it was a bit of an effort to get it out. FML!!! I had a stressful day at work yesterday so wondering if that didn't help? And i didn't sleep well either.

What you said about dietitian is really interesting.... I did wonder too if what I ate came out in the same order. But it make s sense it doesn't as red meat takes the longest to digest. Food for thought... no pun intended lol. Are you taking the fibogel?

AusLady · 04/04/2019 10:41

@Disneylover1- round 2 lol. Got interrupted. I didn't get my daily walk or stretches in this morning either as I slept in till 7 am. I feel like I've improved in my BM pain etc this week only to get more external stress sent my way. 🤔

Lol, yeah I think your the only one who looks at her bum everyday.... Are you trying to figure out how the rose quartz will fit if needed? 😂😂

Do you feel as though you're more swollen after a BM and it subsides after a while? I still have the annoying itch too that comes and goes. I'm lucky that I have an ensuite so I don't have to worry about the toilet being available.... But not so at work. Luckily that's been ok.

So we are planning on doing the 18hr drive in just 2 days. Do 1 big day of 11/12 hrs and less the second day. Our daughter lives there so we want to get there as quick as possible. Lol. We're there for a week too. Some people don't like driving that far and fly everywhere, but I really don't mind the drive. I can't wait to go either, especially atm with work doing my head in.

I think your week off next week will help you a lot too. No stress of having to be somewhere at a certain time etc. It will be lovely. And you'll get more exercise walking around looking at all the sights.
Thank God tomorrow is Friday..... I'm exhausted tonight!! Lol. Hope your day is great! And I hope @brandiJo survived her first week back.

Disneylover1 · 04/04/2019 10:47

Morning @AusLady - arghhh, what a pain. It's so annoying when that happens isn't it?

1 BM could be a sign that your body is starting to process things a bit better, but I can understand why you're worried. My dietician did say that stress can affect the bowels and constipation. Maybe you could download a relaxation app to your phone so you can use that once home to de-stress. My husband has one that he uses and find it really helps. I can get the name if you'd like?
Are you still taking any softeners or supplements to try to keep things soft and moving? I'm still taking the fybogel, but it's not producing the same results as it did 6 years ago which is interesting. Back then, my BMs were like soft serve ice cream, but now they're soft, but more formed. Had 2 yesterday and have had 2 today so far and hoping that's it. I have noticed that they come out easily to start, and then seem to pause. I don't want to strain or push for obvious reasons, but have found that if I use my hand to push my buttock slightly, that helps release it. Hopefully that won't be a permanent thing! I'm still taking the L-lysine, and increased my magnesium to 2 last night to see if that would help. Are you still drinking plenty of water and moving around regularly?

Yesterday was a good day for me. Despite having a bit of blood with both BMs, the pain receded much quicker than normal and I felt great. I can tell things are improving too as I've gone from laying on my side on the sofa in the evening, to sitting more, and things just aren't as hard, tender or swollen. Hopefully I've not just jinxed myself!!!

I used the Rectogesic last night again, and only had the tiniest bit of blood this morning with my first BM, and none with my second. Still a bit of a thorny sensation, but hopefully that will ease soon like it did yesterday. I did sit on a hot water bottle whilst working, so wonder if that helped too? Who knows, but am going to try it again today. I've got a busy afternoon with a uni ball to decorate, so need to feel good!

Today is 'new food' day which I'm both excited and apprehensive about as I don't know how my bum will react, but can't wait to eat something different. So, I'm going to make a sauce with passata and cream cheese, add onions, garlic, roasted peppers (without skins), courgette (zucchini), broccoli florets, mushrooms and chicken, and have it with a bit of white pasta. I guess I'll know on Saturday how I get on!🤞

Hope you have a better nights sleep and day tomorrow and hope that @BrandiJo is getting on okay at work this week too x

AusLady · 04/04/2019 11:29

@Disneylover1, I did have a relaxation app on my old phone but not on this one yet. That'll help I think.
I'm not taking any softners, but I'm taking magnesium that you take. I had to laugh cause I took 2 tonight as well!!!! We definitely twins!!! Lol. I did have Thai for dinner last night.... But that's tomorrow's BM right? Lol
I'm drinking the same amount of water, but I must admit I forget when I'm at work, so I tend to play catch up all day. I don't move as much at work but my watch reminds me to get up if I'm sitting for too long. Everything is just easier to control when I'm at home. I had a meeting most of today so I didn't eat as much as I usually would either. Lol.
Off to bed now, it's 9.30 pm and past my bedtime. 😂😂 i still need about 9 hrs sleep a night! Cheers

BrandiJo · 04/04/2019 18:36

Hello @AusLady and @Disneylover1! Things have been going ok since I’ve went back to work. I’ve been making sure I get in the bed as early as possible and sleep as late as I can, and that has helped me feel rested and stay on top of things. My BMs have been better this week. Less pain and I’m going 2 or 3 times in the mornings, consistency of soft serve ice cream. The urgency time is getting less, still not where I would want to hold it for very long, but it is to the point where I can make it to the toilet. Work hasn’t been just too horrible this week. I’ve stepped wrong a couple times but my backside quickly let me know not to do that again lol. I have a really good crew and boss. They are all about making sure I sit when I need to and rest when I need it. My boss also has an extra nurse working with us until I get back to normal in case a crisis starts and I can’t get up and go fast enough. She’s my wing man lol so this week has been ok. The kids were excited to see me when I walked in that first day. I got so many hugs and “I’ve missed you!” from so many. Even ones that I didn’t think care for anyone or anything were even high fiving or hugging me 😊 They’ve all asked why I was out for so long and I just told them I was sick...because you just don’t wanna tell some kids the horrors of hemorrhoids lol.

So I haven’t said anything because I’m always scared I’ll jinx myself, but Monday night I took a Benadryl (antihistamine) before bed, just because I wanted to make sure I slept well. And once I swallowed it, I thought well, histamine causes inflammation so maybe this will help with the swelling I still have. Now I don’t know if it’s coincidence, if the Benadryl helped, or if it’s just because I’m at week 4 healing, but the swelling has improved tremendously! I can even tell the swelling inside is better because when I pass gas, it’s sounding more normal lol. I’ve been taking them nightly this week. If that is what is helping, maybe someone else will run across this forum that’s in week one of recovery and try it and possibly speed up their healing time.

And whichever one of you guys is looking at your bum daily, yes I do it too lol. I have since the first week. I don’t look every time I go, but I look every time I get out of shower. And I look at it by taking photos on my phone lol. That way I can zoom in on certain areas and see what’s going on. I have them all hidden in a folder in my phone. I would die if someone grabbed my phone and saw them 😂

Heading on to work in a few. Hope you all have a good night/day!

AusLady · 05/04/2019 10:12

Hey @BrandiJo. Glad to hear you've had a good week so far! I know what you mean about not wanting to jinx yourself and say everything is ok... But it seems as though you are doing great!! I still need to make sure I go to bed early so I can cope better with work.
I know my swelling was down by 6 weeks when I had my checkup, I just wondered if I still swelled a bit after a BM. I find sitting in the car and chairs fine now, it's more a hard surface that's still a bit uncomfortable!

I know I have improved a lot in the last week pain wise and my BMs have reduced from 4 to 2 (and once in a blue moon I'll have 1).
@Disneylover1- I hope you've had a great day. So back to 2 BMs today. The second was better though, bit softer and easier then the first. Think the 2 magnesium supplements helped a bit... I'll take 2 again tonight and see how I go. Still some blood with first one though. Cant wait for that to clear up.
I looked up fibogel and I think it's equivalent to metamucil. I stopped taking metamucil to try and reduce the amount of BMs I had a day. I think that's worked out ok. Lol

Disneylover1 · 05/04/2019 18:23

Hi @BrandiJo - lovely to hear from you and I'm so pleased your week at work has gone well, and also that your recovery is still going really well. You're doing great for 4 weeks 😊 It sounds like you've got a great team around you at work and a very supportive manager too.

I know what you mean about jinxing as I feel the same. I'm 9 weeks today and finally starting to feel that in really on the road to bring fully recovered. I'm much more comfortable now and moving, sitting, acting like I was before all of this, so really pleased about that. Pain really doesn't last too long post BM now as long as the fissure hadn't bled.

I don't think the benadryl is for me though, as when I had the really bad itching early on due to the skin reaction blistering, I was recommended to take Piriton (another antihistamine) and experienced an awful side effect of constipation! After talking to my doctor, he thinks it was a combination of that and the anaesthetic not being fully out of my system. The anaesthetic had slowed my system down anyway, and drowsy antihistamines can do the same thing, so compounded the effect. I had 21 small, painful BMs in 24 hours and it was sheer hell 😭 The only ones I'll take now are the more modern non-drowsy ones as I won't risk even the smallest chance of constipation now. Are you still taking the L-lysine? I am in the hope it will help with the fissure, but also using the rectogesic at night too.

Glad I'm not the only one that looks at mum bum daily too 😂

@AusLady - 2 BMs for me again today, and less pain and no blood! So, hopefully the fissure is finally starting to heal. Strangely, the fybogel seems to have taken me from 3-4 BMs to 2 BMs, so that's good. However, I'm still having this issue where I'll start going and everything will be flowing freely, then suddenly it just stops! I can feel there's more there, but it's like my bum wants to keep hold of it. I'm relaxed too, so it's not being held due to me tensing up. A push on my buttocks seems to get it moving again. Very strange 🤔 If that continues, I'll be going back to the Dr for a chat!

I really enjoyed last night's chicken pasta dinner. It was so nice to have something different to eat, and the first time I've eaten anything containing tomatoes for 9 weeks! I made a big batch, so will be having that today and tomorrow too before trying something new on Sunday. Don't know what yet though. Any suggestions? I'm still trying to avoid too much scratchy insoluble fibre while the fissure heals, so it creates a bit more of a challenge food wise. I love watching cooking programmes and my mouth waters at all the lovely things I see, but in the back of my mind I'm just thinking 'I can't eat that at the moment'. MasterChef Australia is my absolute favourite, closely followed by My Kitchen Rules Australia. The Australian versions are just sooooo much better than the UK ones which are really boring in comparison.

Hope you've both had good days x

AusLady · 06/04/2019 01:29

Hey @Disneylover1. So you have to manipulate your butt checks to finish a BM? That is Strange. I hope it stops soon for you. Mine have been pretty much the same. First one seems to give me more pain initially and then it goes away. And second one is ok. Still have a bit of pain but nothing that makes me tense.
Im glad to hear you're down to 2 as well. Makes a difference when you know you have finished for the day and can then just get on with what ever you want to do.

So are you only eating chicken and no red meat? I've been making a homemade chicken soup to have for dinner and lunches at work. I don't have an actual recipe anymore because I have been making it for years. I do put egg noodles and creamed corn in it. But you can make one however you want.
But I have also been eating a bit of beef mince as well. Either a shepherd's pie or rissoles with mashed potatoes and gravy, plus some beans and pumpkin. Not sure what you'd call rissoles but they are large meatballs I'm thinking?? Lol.
Like you I have mainly been eating food I've prepared and cooked myself, but I have had thai (Not spicey) a couple of times and it doesn't make my BMs any better or worse. And I've had tomato soup (from a can lol) for lunch a lot over the past 2 months. And I did have salmon and salad a couple of times with a boiled egg, think you said your dietitian recommended a salad. But I stopped that when I went to a low fibre diet.

Lol, I don't watch either of those shows but I have seen my kitchen rules a couple of times. It made me laugh with how bitchy they get. 😂😂 Am I right in thinking the English version is a little more subdued? Just wondering if I've seen that one over the years. Hope you have a great day.

Disneylover1 · 06/04/2019 08:18

Morning @AusLady (or evening for you!). Well, I'm pretty pissed off this morning! It's Saturday morning and some idiot thinks it's okay to beep his car horn at 7am to let their friend know they've arrived to give them a lift! Sorry, but have some consideration 😡 I was hoping to have a bit of a lie in, but as soon as I wake up, my body wakes up and it's BM time. So, had my first one and it was fine. No blood again - yay! Had the mid BM stop though, and yes, it's just a bit of pressure on my butt cheeks that seems to release things again. Maybe things are tensing further up where I can't feel them and that gives it a nudge? I'm not really sure🤔 At least it does move again though. So, now waiting for BM number 2 which normally follows anywhere up to 2 hours later. My chicken pasta dinner seems to be passing okay though, so that's good as I was feeling quite anxious about eating different food 😊

Yes, I gave up red meat about a year ago to try and help with BMs and the hemmies. I just eat chicken and turkey now as I don't like fish. The only time I really miss red meat is when we go out for a meal and my daughter orders steak as I used to love a good steak. So now she soaks a chip in the steak juices and gives me that as my little steak taster 😂 Oh, and I miss lamb too, and a bacon and egg sandwich, but I have found Quorn bacon that is a decent replacement. I've got loads of healthy/clean eating cookbooks, so I'll go through them and see what I can find that will give me the combination of low residue carb, soluble and insoluble fibre. I'm a bit of an armchair cook as I watch the programmes, then buy cookbooks and look through them thinking, ooo, that looks nice, and then never actually make any of the recipes! I think I worry in case the kids don't like it, even if my husband and I do. I have learnt a lot from the programmes though and am quite experimental in the kitchen, and do cook everything from scratch, so I know exactly what's going in though.

Yes, MKR can be a bit bitchy. Normally most of the couple's are really nice and normal (everyone fell in love with Henry and Anna, the truffle farmers from Tasmania!), but they throw a few more opinionated and bitchy ones who are full of themselves and their own brilliance in the mix to spice it up. They always fall flat on their faces though and get taken down a peg or too which is fun to watch lol! MasterChef isn't like that at all though - everyone on there is generally really lovely. MKR UK can be even more bitchy, but there seems to be an appetite for that sort of reality programme over here for some reason, and it's just not my thing. The UK one just seems full of people who want 5 minutes of fame, rather than for the cooking. And the UK MasterChef format is different and just really boring. The voice over artist/narrator they use has a voice to send an insomniac to sleep 😂 Those 2 Australian programmes are definitely my guilty pleasure!

I've got a busy couple of days ahead - 2 customer meetings this afternoon, then getting ready for a wedding show that we're standing at tomorrow. Plus I need to wash and iron clothes to pack and tidy the house before we go to Glastonbury. Can't wait for the break, but dreading coming back as we've got 6 weddings to decorated between 13-21st April 😬

Hope you have a good weekend x

AusLady · 07/04/2019 06:44

Morning @Disneylover1. I'd be pissed to if I got woken when I just wanted a sleep in too.
Our clocks went back an hr last night so that suits me better. I'm hoping my BMs stay an hr earlier too. I woke up at 6 and pretty soon I was off to the loo.
I don't know how you get your BMs like Mr Whippy every day lol. Mine are more like no.5 on the bristol stool chart.... which is correct for what I'm eating. Low fibre. It'll be interesting to see what the dietitian recommends for me tomorrow. My aim was for less BMs which has worked. And thankfully my pain has subsided a great deal over the last two weeks. Still the initial BM is the most painful.
So it's Sunday afternoon here atm and I've had a busy day cooking. Lasagne of all things. Lol. Not sure if I'll eat any, I cooked it for the kids and hubby. They love it and I haven't cooked it for about 6 months.

Perhaps I should watch more cooking shows to get ideas of different meals to cook.... They always make me hungry though when I watch. Lol. I usually get my ideas from when I've been out for dinner, or to friends places. I do like looking through cook books, but I'm the one who's the fussiest out of us all. Lol.

So I'm not sure what cooking show I watched which was UK based but it wasn't bitchy at all. Everyone was happy and excited to be trying different foods. I know everyone here also gets into the MKR and talk about which ones they want to fail etc. Lol

Not long now for you to head off to Glastonbury and the 2 toilets. Yo u must be excited. I only just realised when I head up north to Hervey Bay we will only have the 1 toilet.... I currently have two. Hmmmm.... I've still got two weeks of healing to go so I'm praying I'll be 100% better by then.

I have cut down on the amount of red meat I eat but I won't give it up completely lol. Have you noticed much of a difference with your BMs and hemmies before the op?

Disneylover1 · 09/04/2019 00:08

Hey @AusLady - sorry I've not been on for a while but had a busy couple of days. Yesterday was the wedding show which was a lot of work and a long day, but a huge success. Thankfully, my BMs played along that morning so I was all done before we needed to leave. Then it was back home to pack and tidy up (please tell me I'm not the only person who cleans before going on holiday?), to get ready for today. The journey down was good, and we're now in a lovely cottage in Glastonbury. Forecast rain for tomorrow (booooo!) but dry for the rest of the week. Not particularly warm, but as long as it's dry we can wrap up and get out and about. King Arthur's tomb is meant to be here, and there's a lot of history surrounding the Holy Grail too. Fortunately, everything is within walking distance of the cottage as we've got to take the car to a local garage tomorrow as we think there's a problem with the drivers side rear suspension 😞

My BMs have got less painful over the past few days, and even if there is still a bit when going, I'm no longer in any pain afterwards, which is lovely. I'm thinking that applying the rectogesic at night might be helping. Mine start off as number 4, then transition to number 5 and then finish as 6 on the Bristol stool chart! They're a bit confused 🤨🤔 Still having to press my butt cheeks sometimes too. Thanks to Dr Google, I'm wondering if I might have a rectocele. So, I'm upping the pelvic floor exercises to see if that might help. Really don't need another surgery in that area!

Also, I do still feel like I have a lump that I'm aware of - like a hemmie but without the pain. However, thinking about it, I've had 2 episiotomies and 2 surgeries to remove hemmies that have been at the perineum side, so I've got a fair bit of scar tissue in that area now I guess, so it could just be down to that.

I felt a bit swollen and tender after vacuuming and cleaning the house, so need to keep an eye on that and make sure I don't overdo things.

Still, I'm on holiday and feeling so much better than I did even 3 weeks ago. I'm going to have a lovely break before returning to the madness of 6 weddings in 9 days!

Hope you've had a good couple of days, along with anyone else who might still be reading along x

Disneylover1 · 09/04/2019 00:10

@AusLady - sorry, I meant to ask how you got on at the dietician appointment?

BrandiJo · 09/04/2019 08:02

I’m almost 5 weeks post op and am finally seeing the benefits more. I’m still wearing panty liners “just in case” but haven’t had to wear one in a week. The tenderness from the swelling on the outside of my anus is now just tight feeling skin, kind of like when scar tissue has developed. The swelling is so small now. I can wipe normally (even though I still use wet wipes), I can bathe back there normally (even though I still baby the area), I haven’t used any type of ointment in the last few days. There’s still that discomfort when gas comes into my colon, but that’s about it. I still am not complete pain/discomfort free, but I’m getting my life back. One that doesn’t revolve around hemorrhoids. I actually went out to eat with my husband and his colleagues over the weekend and had such a good time! I haven’t left the house for anything but work or the quick trip to the grocery store in many many months because of the daily discomfort of hemorrhoids. It just feels good to be feeling human again.

@Disneylover1 I’m so glad you felt good enough to go on your vacation! I learned during the time that I was off work that I need to start taking vacations, at least once a year. I’ve never took even a week off, but I know without a doubt I will from here on out. I have felt more rested since returning to work. It’s just good for us!

Disneylover1 · 09/04/2019 08:30

Hey @BrandiJo - so pleased to hear that you're doing so well. I remember the freedom I felt after I'd recovered from my first surgery and it was wonderful. Like you, I'd virtually stopped going out unless it was really needed, and recall having a panic attack in the supermarket once as I needed to go and there were no free toilets. We abandoned the shopping and drove home as I was in such a state. I don't miss those days at all.

This is our first holiday in a year, which is very unlike us as we normally have 3-4 a year. Work was ridiculously busy last year though, so we just didn't get chance for a break. Got 2 more this year though - glamping (is that a term you know? - it means glamorous camping 😂) at the start of July and then 2 weeks at Disney World in October 😊 Holiday/vacation entitlement in the UK is very different to the US I believe. By law, everyone gets a minimum of 4 weeks per year paid leave right from the start of their job, and that increases the longer you stay in the same job. Plus on top of that, we also get 8 days off for bank holidays (the equivalent of 4th July and Thanks Giving for you). So, we're really used to having our holiday time away from work in the UK. It's a bit different when you're self employed, but I'm so pleased I've got 3 holidays booked and paid for this year😊

Right, got to get ready to take the car to the garage. Hoping the bill isn't too high🤞

BrandiJo · 09/04/2019 08:40

4 weeks per year by law?! Oh I’m just gonna have to move to the UK lol. We get 1 week per year and at some places, you have to be employed there for 5 years before it gets increased to 2 weeks.

Will check in with you guys later this week! 🤞🏻 hoping your car repair isn’t too expensive.

AusLady · 10/04/2019 09:42

Hey @Disneylover1, I knew you we 're busy with work and getting organised for your holiday. I knew you'd pop on when you had a chance. Lol, I also clean my house before I go away. Its just much better when you return.
Glastonbury sounds like it's got some very interesting sites to see!!! Lol. You guys have so much different history to us! Lol. I went to Uluru (Ayres Rock) and the story told by our indigenous Aus regarding the rock was amazing too.
I hope your car has been fixed now?
My BMs used to be the same, 1st BM to last BM changed consistency too? Which is weird.
I feel like ive taken a step back the past two days though. My BMs although havent changed consistency have been harder to push out which gives me more lasting pain throughout the day. I'm still in a bit of pain till around 2 pm. Then it's subsides and I'm ok. Like right now at 6.30 pm.. My BMs are now still no.5 on chart but today I had 3 with 3rd one being late in the day....
So I went and bought osmolax at chemist and had some later this afternoon. I haven't used really any stool softener except coloxyl twice which gave me diarrhea. The osmolax is supposed to be much more gentler on your system.... So fingers crossed it helps me. I don't really have any blood except the tiniest little bit on baby wipe that started again yesterday.
So when i went and seen my dietitian on monday everything was great!!!! Lol. We decided I'd stick to my low fibre diet for another week. But i could start eating hummus on a cruskit biscuit for a snack. And next week I'll slowly reintroduce more fibre into my diet. I think I'll start with the bread lol. Get rid of the white bread and go to wholemeal.
I know I have improved when I can sneeze without having to prepare myself first!!! 😁😁 its the little things. Lol.
I'm going to look up rectocele to see what that means @Disneylover1 and I hope you don't have it. Because whatever it is it doesn't sound good!

Oh @BrandiJo it's the same here in Aus. Minimum 4 weeks holiday per year. But we accrue 1 week every 3 months. So if you don't use all your annual leave it will roll over to the next year. And if you leave your employer it gets paid out. I was able to take 7 weeks annual leave a few years ago when I went to Europe. Do you guys have more public holidays throughout the year?
I am also glad to hear you are doing so well!! I'm the same as you, much h better but I'm still extra extra careful. Lol.

Disneylover1 · 11/04/2019 10:05

Hey @AusLady - sorry to hear you've had a bit of a set back. It's so frustrating isn't it? Just when you think you're making progress and getting back to normal, you have a set back. I've had a set back today too. Not done anything differently, and my stools are still the same consistency (soft, formed pieces), but I've had a small bit of blood today (we're definitely twins!), and feel sore and achy around my surgery site. I've been using the rectogesic at night too. I'm at the stage where I'm at a bit of a loss about what to do! I'm still being careful about what I'm eating - plenty of soluble fibre, but limiting insoluble fibre, some low residue food, 3-4 litres of water, fybogel, magnesium, lots of walking etc. It's not impacting too badly on our holiday as we have relaxing mornings (teens don't like to get up early 😂) and go out after lunch, so by that time the pain had receded, but it's still really frustrating 😡

Car is all fixed and cost us £450, but we were expecting it to be nearer £750, so pleased that it wasn't.

Today we're visiting the abbey and walking up to the tor, so will be getting plenty of exercise!

Driving home tomorrow and straight back to work on Saturday. Our break away will soon feel like a distant memory. We've got another one to look forward to in July, so I'm praying that I'll be fully recovered by then and not even thinking about my bum!

Hope you've improved over the past couple of days x

AusLady · 11/04/2019 11:02

Hey @Disneylover1 - that just sucks for you. Yeah it is bloody frustrating, we have no changes but we have little set backs. I hope your bleeding stops for you.
So I had 2 BMs today but second was about 4 hrs later which is unusual. Didn't concern me too much though. And I did have a much better day with the pain. Back to where I was monday. Maybe the little set backs are just to remind us how far we've come in last 2-3 weeks.
I had a terrible sleep last night so I didn't get up as early as usual which meant I didn't get my walk in. Hopefully tonight is much better.
Lol, I also have a holiday planned for July this year. Have 4 weeks off, we going over the top end of West coast Aus. And I too am hoping I'm 100% by then as it will be all driving.
Glad your car was cheaper then you thought and is all good now.
So you won't even have 1 day off to just relax before you're back into work? But I'm glad you're still having a chance to just relax on your holiday. I can't wait till I go on holidays next week too!!!! Lol

LooneyTuney1 · 12/04/2019 02:22

@Disneylover1 it's been a couple of weeks since I've been on here! I've been doing well actually. I went back to work just last week and everything is starting to feel normal again. Although I've had a bit of bleeding after a BM today, that got me worried. I thought it would have been alright now, but yeah it was a bit of an unpleasant surprise. I've had light bleeding here and there but this one was a bright red. Is that something to get worried about?
How are you doing? I haven't read much of the posts since I have been a bit busy preparing and then going back to work.

Disneylover1 · 14/04/2019 09:05

Hi @AusLady - well, it's Sunday morning here. We drove back from Glastonbury late on Friday and then was straight in to work on Saturday with a wedding in the morning and customer meetings in the afternoon. Just got customer meetings this afternoon, so have the morning to relax a bit and catch up with things. So, I'm still having a small bit of blood with my BMs, bit I'm not 100% sure where it's coming from. It really is the tiniest smear when I wipe, but leaves me feeling sore for a few hours which is really starting to get me down. It's been over 10 weeks FFS! Like everyone else, I just want to be able to have a BM and then forget about my bum. Yesterday I had 3 BMs, but I'd eaten more fibre the day or 2 before - flapjacks, wholewheat scone etc, so think that was the cause. The consistency was a lot looser too, which is when I seem to have trouble passing everything without pressing on my buttocks. I think that because I'm taking the fybogel that I don't need to add extra fibre on top of what I normally eat, so I'm back to insoluble fibre plus low residue as that seems to produce soft type 4 BMs. I have started eating more normally too which is nice. Still on porridge for breakfast, but I've been having that for years, so that's normal for me. Lunch is soup, a few crackers with cheese and a peeled pear. Then for dinner I'm now having chicken and vegetable dishes with white rice, white pasta etc. I can eat spaghetti bolognese again with my family 😄 I peel all veges though, including peppers, to take off the tough, scratchy insoluble fibre, so it's a bit of a faff, but it's nice to start having a bit more variety and also to be able to eat the same as everyone else.

Had 2 today so far and am hoping that's it. They were back to soft type 4, which is my preference. I'm still using the rectogesic, but not sure how much it's helping, if at all. Supplement wise, I'm taking Daflon 500, rutin and magnesium. Drinking plenty of water and walking too. I know I'm improving, especially when I read back over my diary, but it's just sooooo sloooooow! I feel like I've plateaued again, and need to get over this bleeding hump to get to the next stage.
How are you doing with diet and BMs now? Have you started adding more insoluble fibre like the brown bread etc? Had your bleeding and pain stopped?

Wow, a 4 week holiday in July! That sounds amazing, albeit a lot of driving. We're just going away for a midweek glamping break. One of the downsides of being self employed is no pay when we're on holiday, so it's harder to take longer breaks. 2 weeks in October though and can't wait! We do love our glamping breaks though - they're just so relaxing and give us chance to unplug and recharge.
When is your 18 hours drive holiday? That must be soon! How are you feeling about it?

Hi @LooneyTuney1 - good to hear from you and I'm glad you're doing well and back to work.
As for the bleeding, it seems like we're all having problems with it. Do you have any pain afterwards, or any pain when having your BMs? If it feels like you're pooping glass, or that you have a thorn in your bum afterwards, that's normally the sign of a fissure. Blood from that is usually bright red too. I hope it's not as that's what I'm struggling with and it's a frustrating thing to recover from. I'm doing okay, but just need to get over this final hurdle. I still feel like my life is ruled by my bum, and I just want to forget about it 😂

BrandiJo · 14/04/2019 21:02

Thought I’d add to this thread today since it’s my safe place to complain lol. I’m having my menstrual cycle. I’ve always thought it made things swell in my rectal area, and I’m convinced of it now. I feel like I have went back a couple of weeks today. I’m having the ache after BMs that I haven’t had in a couple weeks. Also it’s been uncomfortable to have BMs like it was a couple weeks ago too. It had gotten to where my BMs were virtually pain free. But today has been different. I was supposed to go visit the in-laws 2 hrs away, but I told my husband I would stay home this time. I just didn’t think it would be a good idea to ride 2 hrs there and then 2 hrs back home tonight, and then have to go to work tomorrow. I felt like I needed the day to rest. At least my menstrual cramps have been better today. I’m just so sick of these set backs. I did have a good check up with the surgeon when I went Thursday. He has released me to just follow up as needed. Also, I haven’t seen any bleeding this week so that’s a plus. I did have some bleeding last weekend. It was a few drops on the toilet paper and it was bright red, but it was just that one time and it never burned or felt thorny. The surgeon said it was normal to do that until everything gets back to normal so that’s good I guess.
I am like everyone else, I’m so sick of my days revolving around my bum. It gets so exhausting at times. Hopefully after today, I will be back to where I was yesterday. I am thankful however that none of us are where we were a few weeks ago.

Disneylover1 · 14/04/2019 22:42

Hi @BrandiJo - yes, you're always welcome to have a moan on here :)
Sorry to hear you've had a bad day. I always felt like my hemmies were worse during my period too. I blamed it on the extra blood flow to the area, so maybe that's why you're feeling more swollen and achy today - a combination of extra blood flow, swelling, cramps etc. The blood is frustrating isn't it? At least it didn't seem to cause any additional pain, so that's good.
I'm pleased you had a good check up though, do at least you know everything is healing well.
It's mentally draining though, isn't it? Thinking about your bum all the time, wondering what the next BM will be like, what the effect of something you ate might be etc. I'm still keeping a daily diary to try to identify what works and what maybe causes harm, but it's depressing seeing the days get higher and higher. Day 72 today!
Like everyone else, we are further along than we were, but I feel like this last 10% is almost the hardest bit as it just seems so hard to get past. I still struggle with early morning starts, but fortunately with my job, I don't normally need to leave the house before 10am to decorate weddings, and I work from home the rest of the time. I have great admiration for those of you that go out to a job that doesn't offer the flexibility in hours that mine does the majority of the time.

I hope tomorrow is better for you BrandiJo, but feel free to come on here to vent, moan or even celebrate progress xxx

AusLady · 15/04/2019 03:34

Ahoy @Disneylover1 and @BrandiJo.
So it's currently 12.30pm here. As last stated I was taking osmolax (started wednesday)which I was hoping would give me a better BM which would just make everything easier???!!!! Well no such bloody luck.... I went from 2 BM a day to 4!!! FML!!! It was weird though, the first one hurt, as usual, but the next 3 were actually ok while I was having them..... But then I would just be aching all forking day!!! Friday I only had the one BM and I was in heaven. I thought I was actually returning to normal.... But nooooooooo!!! Along comes Saturday and Sunday and that's when I reckon the osmolax kicked in. So I stopped taking it yesterday and I've only had the 3 BM today. Glad I don't work Mondays!! Hoping I go back to the 2 tomorrow. But it actually did bring the timing a lot closer. BRB.

AusLady · 15/04/2019 04:52

Ok. So make that 4 BMs a day still. But my last one was back to being no.5 on chart. Where as all the rest were no.4. 😩
I feel for you @Disneylover1 and @BrandiJo regarding the feel ok then you don't!!! It just bloody sucks!! I too was just thinking yesterday why is this last part dragging on soo bloody long??!! I ended up taking panadol yesterday and today which really depressed me. Only because I havent taken pain relief for over 2 weeks. But my butt does feel better atm. Only have a little bit of blood on paper after 1st BM. And none after that.
I get really bad menstrual cramps and diarrhea as well which makes this whole thing feel worse. But at least the next time (this weekend 😫😫) I won't be in as much pain as previous two times with my BMs. Well im hoping anyway. Who knows anymore??!! 😡

So my 18 hr drive starts this Friday @Disneylover1. Fingers crossed it all goes ok. I think there is an app with all the public toilets in australia, I'm sure I've seen it on something I was reading a few weeks ago. Lol. @Disneylover1, just wondering, do you have to pay for public toilets in the UK like the rest of Europe? It was one thing i was glad of back here.... just being able to use any toilet i needed. Lol. I'm a bit disappointed I'm not 100% better which I believed I would be when I booked the holiday. I'm unsure how eating wholemeal bread has changed my BMs due to the osmolax relief but I'll keep you posted. I just thought introducing that would be better then introducing skin on my Apple or eating nuts. If that makes sense. I just make sure I chew it really well. Lol. So I'm not going to change anything else in my diet though for another week. Even though I eat a few different things now I make sure they are still low in insoluble fiber, are peeled, cooked well and soft.
Have you tried the chia seeds in yogurt yet? My dietitian is still steering me clear of any seeds or anything that could potentially come out the other end scratchy.
My husband also runs his own business so I know what you mean about no work = no income! But we have a weekly income set up from it.

So I hope next post from you both things have improved. As with me....
I'm glad I have people who understand exactly what I am going through. ❤❤
Do I feel yet as though I'm glad I had this op done.... not quite yet!!! Except for the removal of an internal polyp, which could have been nasty if left unchecked.

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