Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

General health

Mumsnet doesn't verify the qualifications of users. If you have medical concerns, please consult a healthcare professional.

*TAMOXIGANG* 43 *

993 replies

MaryAnnSingleton · 01/10/2013 08:24

New thread !!

OP posts:
kitkat1967 · 03/10/2013 07:22

jchoccip - very impressed with the run - and great sleeping!

MaryAnnSingleton · 03/10/2013 08:01

well done jchoc Smile Now I've started swimming in earnest I can see how important these things are !
Bloods today.

OP posts:
malteserzz · 03/10/2013 09:24

Hopefully you'll get rid of it in a couple of days then really
Jchoc am very jealous of that sleep !
Kitkat glad you're ok with no nausea Smile
Foo foo how are your arms today ?

smee · 03/10/2013 09:27

Really, I hate those drains. Soon be gone though. When they take it out, remember to do proper deep breathing. Really concentrate on it and take a very deep breath in as they take it out. Seems to help.

Yay for no nausea, Kitkat. Smile

Impressed by running and swimming on here. I'm going to do a few hours work, then cycle for a swim. Now it's down in black and white it'll make me go.. Grin

Wishing all a good day. Keep those side effects at bay. x

kitkat1967 · 03/10/2013 10:05

Smee - cycling and swimming - this is gettig competative Grin

I looked round a gym on Monday - does that count at all? Wink
I don't like swimming but used to enjoy going to the gym so think that may be an option for me - just got to decide whether to bite the bullet membership wise and think about timing - waiting to see how I get on this week with aches etc.

smee · 03/10/2013 10:45

Looking round a gym definitely counts, kitkat though I'd wait a bit on joining, Kitkat. Walking's v.good on chemo, anything else is a bit ott imo. Grin

Lilymaid · 03/10/2013 11:08

Went to work yesterday and came back absolutely exhausted! I didn't even spend a full day there though was out of the house 8 - 6:30. I had put myself into normal work gear and only realised as I was rushng back to the tube at usual London speed that I couldn't keep it up and needed to walk slowly!
Metal mouth slightly better today (but it is Day 15 and next chemo is next Thursday). Lots of brown marking under my nails now - and general numb feeling around the finger tips. I have invested in some new nail polish and will give myself a manicure once I've finished the ironing.
My gym membership is suspended and I don't expect to rejoin until after I've finished radiotherapy and feel I can start up again - I'll probably enlist the help of the personal trainer to start me off nice and slowly.

reallyreallyworried · 03/10/2013 11:25

Thanks for the advice smee I will remember that, when the time comes. Can't come soon enough!!

Although I can't complain. I am managing to move my shoulder pretty well considering, and I have taken minimal pain relief. Although I did find after my last surgery that the pain was worse about 10 days post surgery. I assume that's when all the nerves and things come back to life!

On the whole I am feeling much better about things. I suppose that's why they say this journey is full of ups and downs. One of the surgeons told me I was always so calm and laid back about things!! Hmmmmm maybe I should of let her read some of my comments on here! Although for the most part I think I have taken everything in my stride. Not that we have much choice.

Right nap time for me! Well worth a try Grin

Hope everyone is having a good day xxx

malteserzz · 03/10/2013 11:51

I felt fine last night but now really tired again and my temp is up from what if normally is, though not high enough to worry about yet
Thought I was out of the woods on this cycle Hmm

malteserzz · 03/10/2013 12:32

Ignore me I'm panicking again it has gone down a bit now !

Shootingatpigeons · 03/10/2013 13:37

malt you are right to be ready to panic a little bit, it may be possible and probably necessary to get a bit blasé but you are being poisoned and it does leave you vulnerable so it is important to keep an eye on temp as I have proved by experiencing the consequences of my own complacency Hmm

really I hated the drains too, we may joke but they really are not the most attractive fashion accessory.

jchoc yeah for getting a run, take it steady but I am sure it is good to get back .

I did actually swim (though I had and still have very low WBCs, which tends to support what I think kitkat said about BCNs etc being over cautious) and go to at least one exercise class a month through chemo, even though I had a bad time in my bad weeks. I was always a bit of a gym bunny so it was part of my normal. Yoga really helped with my state of my mind and I had a real good gang in an exercise class who socialised outside the gym so I tried to make their classes at least once a month. That was the (gay) Instructor who greeted me with the words "you look like a lesbian when I first went wigless) Even If I was a bit pathetic, it was good for morale. It's not impossible and actually since exercise stimulates the immune system may actually good for you physically as well as long as you don't get overtired.

Having fun and games here, was up at dawn in case of return visit by heron to my pond to commit genocide with my fish who I have sadly got fond of, especially since they have now had babies. Never give names to animals that you can't protect from the circle of life. Yesterday goondog gave one tentative bark at it then realising it was huge with scary wings beat a hasty tactical retreat, which was enough to send it packing. Today when he is supposed to be on patrol with me he is staying in his basket......

MaryAnnSingleton · 03/10/2013 14:48

glad temp is down malt
Swimming is doing me good,I think - but am trying not to overdo it as I did feel horrible this week (earlier and over the w/end) - not nec. the swimming I suppose. I like that you don't get all sweaty and that I can exert myself much more easily in the water than on dry land - running would drive me insane and gyms have never appealed.

Was looking at some blogs about pink October and found one about how amid the frou frou of pinkness metastatic bc is largely forgotten and how primary bc is where the money goes -met. bc is deemed very scary and something people really don't want to think about.

OP posts:
Gigondas · 03/10/2013 15:49

I think that's very likely mas. I have certainly seen first hand someone cry/try to ignore a metastatic bc story at a course for cancer patients. It makes me AngrySadEnvy too about how whole pink October as not only would I like not to have cancer but I would like not to have an unusual rare cancer with not much funding .

Hope all those with se feeling ok. . It was walking that got me thru chemo . I would avoid gyms Not cos hate them as remember them being described as full of germs from dirty equipment.

reallyreallyworried · 03/10/2013 16:07

Very true shooting not the most pleasant fashion accessory! Looks awful and the sloshing sound as I walk around isn't great! So I have now totally lost the plot and have given my new buddy a name!

It's dotty Dora the drain Grin I put the bottle in a purple and White spotty toiletry bag! Hence Dotty Smile

I'd like to blame my madness on drugs! But as I'm only taking basic stuff, I can't! So I think I am just mad Shock

Thought I would share my madness with you all. Hoping I'm not the only mad one among us!!!!! Xx

Gigondas · 03/10/2013 16:11

Grin At naming your drain ( but sympathise as they are rank but you do become oddly obsessed with outflow tho that could be me). I wanted big gig to decorate mine with stickers.

It's good you are only on basic painkillers tho .

reallyreallyworried · 03/10/2013 16:22

Nope not just you gigs I keep checking and try to work out IF tomorrow could be the day!!

As for painkillers, I know they say take them regularly, but I have never really taken tablets for anything. So I figure so long as I feel okay and am able to do the exercises without too much pain. Then I'm okay. I also think that like last time, I will feel it more in a week or so's time! Then 'I'll use them!

Glad my madness gave u something to smile about! Xx

Gigondas · 03/10/2013 16:33

Think approach to painkiller makes sense but do take them at any sign of pain as don't suffer. I agree it can seem worse a little while in.

Grin At goondog pigeons - he is a over not a fighter isn't he?

Gigondas · 03/10/2013 16:33

Lover even Wink

HerNextDoorAt21 · 03/10/2013 17:00

Off to see madam surgeon in the morning to see what she is going to do. Fingers crossed it's nothing eh ????

Gigondas · 03/10/2013 17:18

Fingers and toes that it's good news- you deserve bit of luck on healing. Any plans for pub night this weekend ?

MaryAnnSingleton · 03/10/2013 17:26

fingers very crossed for you hnd
Some good news from my friend in Derbyshire (with bc but can't have surgery/chemo etc as she already has a life limiting illness and treatment would finish her off) - her tumour has been significantly shrunk by tamoxifen Grin - hooray !!
Off swimming now
Why on earth did I think it was your bday today gig ?

OP posts:
MaryAnnSingleton · 03/10/2013 17:27

ooh tipsy & hnd pub niight- wings and other deliciousness -v jealous

OP posts:
handbagsatdawn · 03/10/2013 17:30

Hello Really and Dora - you sound so much happier today which is great.

Good luck for tomorrow HND - what are you expecting the surgeon to say? You expecting more surgery?

I'm reassured to hear lots of you are exercising - as someone who loves pump / spinning / swimming I am deperate to get back to the gym.....I can feel my fitness seeping out of me. Hopefully by the weekend I'll be able to do spinning (albeit gently) as that's the only one of my classes that doesn't involve much arm/shoulder strength. I'm recovering nicely from surgery, back into nice underwired bras today (yay!), bruising turning a lovely shade of yellow, one comedy boob.

kitkat1967 · 03/10/2013 19:30

Good luck tomorrow HND - let's hope she has to do nothing. I take it you are no longer squeaking?

malteserzz · 03/10/2013 19:37

Good news about your friend MAS
Good luck tomorrow Hnd Smile