Tamoxifen 34 *the power of Sauron*

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Morning all, - toast and honey Smee? yes please. I have porridge but nothing very interesting to go on the top (like a bar of chocolate for example)

Posh - good luck with your appointment this week, - appointments are the pits ( I tend to sit hunched in the waiting room trying hard and failing to do breathing exercises while pretending to read 'Yachting Monthly')
Definitely ask about the treatment plans and options - I think it definitely helps if you have a 'plan of attack' as it were - at least it makes you feel as if something is being actively done about it.

topsy - enjoy the wool shop, and don't get into any mischief with HND, - eat a pudding or three for me.

Copt - I'm glad Barcelona was good (and that Dh was only occasionally arseish) - my DH has been a bit better over the weekend (or rather he has been much the same - stuck on his game a large proportion of the time, but I have not allowed myself to be upset by it) we did manage an outing to my DS and DDIL, and he more or less behaved.

Gig enjoy your lunch and day with friend, - hope you are not too exhausted after the littlies disturbing your sleep.

love to all xx

Am having honey on mine. Mmm..

I asked if I could have everything whipped out, but they said no need as my periods had stopped. I still made them do ultrasounds and had the hyster-thingy to check. I even have a photo of my cervix.

Morning all!

I've been to the physio this morning to discuss my pelvic floor, very exciting. She was super lovely and showed me a few exercises to do, and also recommended something which is basically a weighted tampon! and also some massages and Bio oil for my scars.

I have some cheese and onion pasty slices and iced ring doughnuts from Greggs for the trolley this morning :)

I'm attempting to work on a report so will probably be back in a few minutes... it's voluntary work and I have ages to do it but need to knuckle down and get it out of the way while I'm well really!

smee how goes the work?

gigs eek at the early start! Enjoy your friend's visit :) I have a couple of audiobooks too, I'll message you.

topsy and HND enjoy lunch and wool shopping, am jealous, I looooove wool shopping almost more than actually making things!

Posh good luck with the appointment :)

amber any advice on which omega 3 oils? I am veggie but I've heard flax ones aren't so effective so I was thinking about getting some krill oil capsules. I am seeing Dr W tomorrow so will check with him then stock up on supplements :)

KK glad that even if DH isn't getting any better you are not letting it get to you, and that he didn't ruin your time with DS and DIL - how are they doing after the horrible house business?

Have a lovely morning everyone :)

we know about your perfect cervix smee

On no - Smee isn't boasting about her highly photographed cervix again is she?

Asho - that sounds like a good session with the physio, - I have heard of those weighted things I think they are supposed to work well, and the exercises really do help (I try to do PF exercises when I remember, although I think the chances of me ever regaining any muscle tone are slim to none )
I do know that when I had shoulder problems, after a great deal of messing about by doctors, it was a physio who got me sorted, they really know what they are talking about IME.

DS and DDIL are doing fine thanks for asking - they are having a good clear out of their present house to make more room. DDIL has painted their living room and put up shelves, and they have wallpapered their bedroom. I am growing lots of bedding plants in my greenhouse, so have promised them all my spares to make up tubs and borders in their little garden
They are basically just going to save for a deposit now and try to buy somewhere eventually.

If only we had a scanner, I'd post up a pic.

Physio does sound good, Ash. I had the weighted things for a while after DS was born and they do work if you put the effort in.

It's 3 and 6 omega oils you need and you need it from oily fish not flax as flax not so easily digestible.

At smee and her cervix.

Well worth asking questions on treatment posh as they often are much more flexible and responsive than you realise with treatment. This means don't always go in hard if think its only a small met and treatment may be Ott for issue.

Lunching now but back later

afternoon all - have been stalking not much to say at the moment other than deciding whether or not to take tamoxifen. The team said they're very much on the fence about it for me. So I'm going for a six month trial and if the side effects aren't too bad I'll stick with it.

posh sorry you're not having much fun. I went to boarding school from 12 to 17 (I grew up in Australia) and saw my parents every 4 - 6 weeks. I can't say I enjoyed being away from home very much. You also grow apart from your parents and siblings. I enjoyed the sport and opportunities we had at school (my parents lived in the country, the school was in the city), but I don't think you can completely relax at boarding school. I remember feeling completely exhausted at home, i think it was all the pent up tension and emotion sharing a building with 120 other teenage girls.

Waving to coorong. Giving Tamoxifen a whirl's not a bad idea. I haven't been too bad on it. Gone through the menopause, but then in my case that's good news as my tumour was v.hormonal.

Copt, hope smear wasn't too grim. Glad to hear DH managed at least a few good moments on your holiday. Barcelona is a wondrous place. Beer in the sun with tapas is about as perfect as it gets.

Sunny in London town..!! Picked up DS and his friend from school and we went for ice creams to celebrate spring. DS told me on the way home that they can all wear sporting kit to school tomorrow because Mrs Thatcher's dead. I thought maybe they were doing celebratory hurdles or something, but we've worked it out that they're not connected..

Smee - is this some kind of Mrs Thatcher has died impromptu sports day? - sounds very creative if so

Copt - it does sound as if your Dh is very stressed at work, - I find mine also gets v.stressed and will never talk about it, it just becomes apparent because of his behaviour. Mine is definitely not a communicator and it is very frustrating. I am sure the counsellor will help - its important you have someone you can talk to rather than always being the one who tries to sort everything out. xx

Coorong - a trial run with tamoxifen sounds like a good plan, although I found that the side effects diminished as time went on - so if it makes you feel a bit yuk at first, it may not always do so.

Kurri, I was kind of hoping it was, but apparently it's to do with the London Marathon, as that's on Sunday. Mind you, they did do a whole Olympic Games thing in the playground once, complete with kids demonstrating synchronised swimming and horse riding..

I liked the sound of that Olympic demo smee. I was trying to explain to big gig who Thatcher was and why it was a significant event. To cut a long story short, big gig compared thatcher to the bad mermaid in Barbie mermaids take cries a bit that my history degree clearly not inspiring dd or my teaching skills AWOL

Had nice time with friend, lunch then bit of shopping although mini gig is a runner so a fair amount of that was spent trying to stop her running out the door (currently with my neck brace and wonky gait mini gig has the edge).

Sorted out most stuff for hospital tomorrow and spoken to nurse who said dh could be with me before/ after op on Thursday which is good . Am very nervous and very about leaving dc ESP big gig who is quite upset about it.

But hospital does have wifi so can come on here and prop up the bar

Copthall- glad mr lovely helping but sounds like dh needs help. It does sound very tough for him and even more hideous if feels can't take any break without a shit storm brewing. If you could tempt him to an other halves do , sure dh would be happy to offload on. He has a senior job and also done quite a lot of counselling as part of it (plus likes drink rugby and Hong Kong).

Coorong- nice to see you

Ash- glad physio is good. I am very impressed with what they did on my leg and hope they can rebuild me after this.

Going to veg out in front of tv and try not to be too nervous .

MAS yes can be the same if it's several in one organ too.

Omega 3 - gosh, not a clue. The only studies have been on the fish oils, as far as I can tell.

How you doing amber? How did training thing go today?

Oooooh tapas and cava !
I'll be right there Cop

Are you first up on Thursday Gigs ?
Is that why you have to be in tomorrow ?
That and and all the usual Pre op prodding and poking I'm sure .
Stick around here girly , we'll keep you occupied !

Had a lovely lunch with HND today
I had crab samosa on tomato Dahl , with a green chilli compote .
Very spicey , but lovely .
And we were very good and didn't drink any wine

Also got some more red wool for my blankie project .
It's great as its now got to the size where it keeps me warm as I crochet

Blankies? Excellent!! Training v good. Derailed by finding engraved wooden Willie in trophy cabinet in the rugby club clubhouse room. Not quite what the clients were expecting ....

sending a special hug and lots of love to gig - thinking of you lots.

at Amber.

I'd got Thurs in my head too, Gigs. Didn't realise you have to be there tomorrow. We'll distract you lots. I do feel for you on the little-Gigs. I found it ever so tough leaving DS when I was having ops. He's older now so not such a big deal, but ((((hugs from me)))) xx

at derailment of training amber.

Gigs huge and love for tomorrow and for op day. fell for you with the little ones, but you will soon be home all rebuilt and legoified.
Am at mini Gig - I had a bolter too - they are so fast even when you are not in a neck brace.

topsy - sounds like a v.good lunch.

This thyroid nonsense has turned me into the sweatiest betty on the planet - I am off for another shower then bed!

gigs I too was stupidly focused on Thursday but should have realised they would want you in the day before, it is horrid to leave the DCs when going into hospital especially if they are upset. I hated it. However they seemed to have a whale of a time being spoilt by various friends

Big Copt was a runner (as well as 3.30 am partier) too, but as soon as she started school and got her hands on a pen and reading book she calmed right down, way to go though I know! And the 3.30 am partying seems to have reared it's head again

I think big gigs is drawing very relevant parallels between Margaret and Ursula. Excellent teaching and possible diss subject

Thanks gig and KK DH does know he needs help and has been having Counselling for quite a few months now, she has tried to get him focused on other interests so not so vulnerable, but it has all been two steps forward, one step back, and sometimes one step forward and two steps back. The bloody bathroom was supposed to be "his project" Drinking, Rugby and Hong Kong are definitely interests though. He actually grew up in HK, I think some of his issues are to do with being sent back here to a bleak Prep School, age 7 Perhaps a partners meet up would help, we tried that with my support group but he found it hard to cope with some of the partners depression, ironically I think he would be more receptive now. For me it's not lack of interests, it is a chance to indulge them that I crave, so hard to understand why he can't love walking the dog, growing something in the garden (he is always hugely proud of my garden but never helps when I need it), understanding history, making Lord True's life a little less comfortable (we have a comedy conservative Council Leader in Twickers these days , apologies to any Conservatives but twitter.com/LordTrue)

Smear test was horrible, got Nurse Rachett. I have a tilted womb so they are supposed to look first to make sure they locate your cervix, at least 10% of us have a tilted womb so it isn't rare, but she just went straight in and then spent ages twisting the speculum, it was agony and I still have a horrible ache. I also bled which provoked paranoia but then have realised she has given me a graze where it stings (sorry if tmi ) and all to dead eyed script she obviously always trots out, " results will be sent to your home address in 7-10 days" apart from when she said "Ah! I have found your cervix" of course I said "Thank you" after

Gigs, good luck for the day ahead...thinking of you.
Copt, ow!!!

Thanks all - managed good nights sleep which helps. You lot are lovely .

Amber- at graffiti but glad it went well as you have had your work cut out with some of church stuff.

Day out and lunch snubs nice hnd(how is the wound btw?)and topsy. I like how you can now snuggle and crochet.

Kurri- good ds an Ddil feel better About house.

Lord true- just his name grinds my gears copthall. He is almost comically dire- a one man edition of private eye. We can maybe engineer a local meet up when am out. I know dh Would appreciate someone who has been thru it . Does sound like upbringing contributes to issues- it's something have looked at a lot in my therapy. I have struggled with it but ultimately I think you can learn a lot about how you respond to stuff.

Also good to hear bolsters calm down but at 3am partying,

Mas- am going to try and send you some inspiration pics for next pics. I think we need skunks in the kids one (mas doing a big pic for kids room).

Right better go as gig up. Will update later

ow ow ow copt - smears are horrid -I was v traumatised by my last one and won't be rushing with glee to the next.
gig skunk/badgers definitely in picture..
Dh never speaks about how he feels except when I tried to drive in the snow and he exploded with anxiety about everything- he is naturally a worrier and very self contained.
Waves to all - coffee today with a friend from Brentford...
Who is your MP in Twick ? (I know,I'll look at your link) Didn't you have Vince Cable once ?

It's still Vince mas. As a local mp he is good (very responsive). Some of his gov level outbursts are a bit - wtaf was all that nonsense about one direction?

Coffee sounds nice. Am going to be pottering with kids and also watching the funeral. I find these kind of state pomp things quite interesting.