MMR - does this mean no german measles?

[desperatehousewife]

Son had mmr a couple of years ago - stupid question but does this mean he will be immune to German Measles?

yeah should do rubella is german measles.

well sod me - ds has what looks remarkably like german measles (despite having had mmr). Grrrr.

urticaria?

Vaccines do not work 100%, so they can sometimes get the diseases despite being vaxed.
The drs should tell you this but they don't tell you the whole truth about what can go wrong with vaccinations, because they want to bonus money for doing them!

When I was a kid we all had the milder childhood diseases, it was a normal part of life. The dangers of many childhood diseases are hugely overrated

ds1 caught german measles from a vaccinated child. I would assume it is unless you find out otherwise as the dangers to pregnant women are so great.

yes and i am preg. But i've checked my immunity and apparently i'm immune. Bloody hope so.

The vaccine effectiveness is about 90% so he could still get it. You should be OK, though, if you have checked and are immune. I hope your son will be fine.

quite a few things look like german meales

roseola?

Rubella immunisation is one of the ones that doesn't offer 100% protection for life. You need to have boosters during pg if levels have fallen too low. Therefore I would assume it isn't much cop at preventing your child from getting the illness.
My DD got mumps and had had her MMR

supposidly. Rubella IS german measles

saying that ive had the vaccination and i still got german measles...

But then i dont belive in vaccinations... but thats another story all togther! My children wont be vaccinated!

the rubella bit of the vaccine is lower than 90% (the most relaible figure I found was for about 80%). Is the rash slightly raised? DS1's looked like heat rash, I would have assumed it was if we hadn't been in contact with a child with confirmed rubella the exact incubation period beofre iyswim (14 days iirc correctly). I'd still assume rubella and keep away from pregnant women (except yourself!- although if you have immunity you'll be fine anyway- its not dangerous past the first trimester either),

there have been 7 cases of it in his nursery class. little red spots (loads) behind ears, on back of neck, yesterday on tummy and back. Temperature and a bit floppy - but generally well.

I'm only just past first trimester (13 weeks!)

Glad you are past the first trimester. That's a relief!

It does sound like rubella. I;d ring the GP tbh and see whether they want to check him out (not so much for him, but because of the risks rubella can have for pregnant women). 7 cases is a lot in one class though. The majority of children have been jabbed (assuming he;s 3ish), so either it really hasn't worked very well, or its something else!

took him to doc yesterday - doc said 4 out of 5 times docs mis diagnose german measles so he woundln't commit himself (hmmm...reassuring!) He said it's some type of measles thing. I'm pretty sure it's german measles.

I'm keeping him off pre-school (yes, he's nearly 4) for a few days til he's not contagious.

I was told that that the MMR only offers a certain amount of immunity the first time round ... it is only after the booster at 4/5 that they are more immune IYSWIM?

no that's wrong ghosty. (that;s true of the DTP- you supposedly require 3 for full immunity, although in some cases 2 will do), but one jab of MMR is meant to confer immunity. The booster is to catch the 10% (according to the official figures) of kids who didn't develop immunity after the first MMR.

So Jimjams, I know you've mention this before, but when is the best (most effective) time for a child to get the measels vax? Isn't it more effective if you wait longer than the recommended 12-15 months? DS is almost 12 months. Plan to go for singles, but we're thinking about delaying a bit if it would make the jab more effective.

I'm pretty sure that you cannot have the booster during pregnancy either. I had no immunity despite being vaxxed twice at school age.
They said they cannot give me the vax while I was pregnant, but they did give it to me before I was discharged from the hospital after having her, infact it delyaed me leaving by several hours, the bar stewards.
I also think that the rubella booster now is actually MMR, there was an article saying this many months ago, pays to check....

DHW, some type of measles thing????????
I think your doctor sounds like an ass.
:)

he is piffle - honestly he has the worst reputation round here - has the most outrageous bedside manner. He is intimidating, makes you feel small and stupid, he is crass, he is inappropriate...grrrr.

Uwila- the jab effectiveness increases between 12 and 15 months (and further again by 18 months). It isn't a huge difference, but it is a difference. If I have time later I can direct you to the abstract I got that from as I can't remember the exact figures. If you had measles yourself then might be prudent to leave to at least 15 months.

Hmmm not sure of my use of the word prudent, you know what I mean. Perhaps I should rephrase if you didn't have measles might be prudent to go for earlier jab if you know that measles is doing the rounds.

Thanks, Jimjams. You are always so helpful.

this is also a concern to me, as dd1 had single vaxes and dd2 is now a year old. We intend to get singles but I have done nothing about it yet....maybe I'll wait until she is 18 months.