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Any old prolapse! Uterus/womb prolapse, rectocele, cystocele, enterocele, urethrocele, incontinence, pelvic floor, anterior and posterior repair, TVT etc part 7

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gottagetthroughthis · 19/10/2012 00:38

This is thread 7 of a long-running series of posts from ladies suffering from pelvic prolapses to support each other through the process of diagnosis, repair and recovery.

Here are the previous threads:
Thread 1
Thread 2
Thread 3
Thread 5
Thread 6

Info from BBC Health

What is a pelvic prolapse?

As the muscles, ligaments and supporting tissues in the pelvis become weaker, they are less able to hold in the organs of the pelvis such as the womb (uterus) or bladder.

Gravity pulls these organs down and, in the more severe cases, may appear through the entrance to the vagina.

A variety of problems can occur, depending on where the weakness lies and which organs are able to descend, but in every case there is some degree of prolapse of the vaginal wall, which begins to invert (rather like a sock turning inside out).
Prolapse of the womb or uterus is the most common prolapse, affecting as many as one in eight older women to some degree
Prolapse of the bladder, known as a cystocele, is less common.
Prolapse of the urethra (the tube that carries urine out of the bladder) is known as a urethrocele.
Prolapse of the intestines is quite rare, and known as an enterocele or rectocele.

Symptoms

Symptoms depend on which tissues descend, and how severe the prolapse is.

They may include:
A sense of heaviness or pressure in the pelvis.
The appearance of a bulge of tissue in the genital area, which can be quite alarming, and is often red and sore.
Urinary problems, such as having to urinate more frequently, feeling the need urgently, being incontinent (losing control of the bladder) or, conversely, being unable to pass urine when you need to.
Pain in the pelvis or lower back.
Sexual problems, including pain and decreased libido.
Constipation.
Vaginal discharge or bleeding.

Treatment and recovery

Once a prolapse has developed, surgery to fix the affected organs is usually the only way to cure it effectively.

However, another option is to use a device known as a vaginal ring pessary. This is rather like a contraceptive diaphragm or cervical cap. It's made of silicone or latex, and placed in the vagina to push back the prolapsed organs and hold them in place. Many women happily manage their prolapse this way.

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gladitsallover · 21/12/2012 22:19

Tink - You must go get checked out tomorrow. When I was 2 weeks post op I was getting sorer and not better and like you thought I'd leave it til the Monday but a friend advised me to get seen. I was immediately put on pretty heavy duty antibiotics and am so glad I got seen sooner rather than later. You could be feeling so much better by Monday if you get seen tomorrow.

Whoknows - I'm in the same boat. Have had lots of aches and pains over the last 24 hours and even fell asleep on the sofa this morning which I normally find impossible to do during the day! I'm 7 weeks post op now and have felt more like 3-4 weeks post op today which has been a bit depressing!

My antibiotics stop tonight and I'm dreading coming off them now! I've been on them for 5 out of the 7 weeks and think if nothing else they seem to have kept away all the bugs the rest of the world seem to be getting just now! I'm dreading getting the cough that my family all have had!

fengirl1 · 21/12/2012 22:20

Tink - stay in bed or on the sofa and do NOTHING until you have seen someone. It may still be a case of overdoing things but it could be more serious. And if you don't look after yourself, how can you look after anyone else? (All said with kindness of course.) Take care.

tinkxx65 · 22/12/2012 06:53

;smile] Thanks for all the concern. I have an appointment for Monday, but have got up and I am in pain, so am going to go to the walk in centre.

tinkxx65 · 22/12/2012 06:53

opps Smile

frequentwee · 22/12/2012 06:56

Tink, just to echo advice about being seen earlier, I have no experience of the surgery but I am a hcp and you really must get some advice. Take care.

MincepiePatty · 22/12/2012 07:53

Morning all, I think I need to join your merry band, I think I have a uterine prolapse. There is a sore, pointed mass coming out of my vagina, by the end of the day the pain is awful. This has happened in the last three weeks, I've had a bad cough but the violent retching with yet another winter vomit bug last weekend seems to have finished the job!
Dd is 3 tomorrow, she was 10lbs, a planned home birth that was long difficult and resulted in a swift trip to hospital with haemorrhaging from a retained placenta. What I remember of the removal was brutal, a two handed extraction which tore me more than birth... They were not particularly gentle in their care of me as this particular trust does not support home births.... (My local was full...)
What happens now? I daren't lift anything, I'm in panto and the dancing and leaping about is frightening, frankly. I went out last night with a big tampon coated in antiseptic cream stuck in to try and keep everything approximately in the right place lol
Typical I goes really wrong at this time of year!

LovesBeingAtHomeForChristmas · 22/12/2012 08:13

Tink seriously you need to see someone ASAP and isn't that what you'd being saying to everyone else if it were them Xmas Grin

Just dropping by to with you all a lovely Christmas and full of feeling good and pain free.

I'm making one new yrs resolution and that is to focus on my poor old fanjo, make a real effort with my pfe and if by then go for my follow up appt with gp and get referred if still needed (which it will) and to stop picking up dd as I'm so conscious every time I do.

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frequentwee · 22/12/2012 15:10

Hello Mincepie. Have you seen your GP? I'm not much use for advice having only very recently diagnosed with a cystocele but I can sympathise, hand hold and generally understand how shocking some of these conditions are. My problems are not serious compared to many, but I still feel very upset.

Tink, hope things are better today?

tinkxx65 · 22/12/2012 21:35

Hi saw the out of hours gp and have antibiotics, super strength painkillers and super strength ibuprofen. He said I was very swollen and sore but that the repair looked good. I told him that I had gone for a short walk and the pain it had caused and that I had been following the instructions on the recovery sheet. And he said to listen to my body, if walking outside hurt to stop straight away and go back home, and that everyone is different in what they can do. He has told me to wait at least another week before I try again.

Anyway have taken two of the super strength painkillers (cant remember what they are called and am too lazy to walk to the kitchen lol) and already feel 100% better.

Night all xx

WhoKnowsWhereTheMistletoes · 22/12/2012 21:39

That's great Tink sounds as though you found a good doctor there. Hope you sleep well tonight and the meds do their job. xx

fengirl1 · 22/12/2012 22:12

Tink - so now you know you weren't making a fuss about nothing! I hope you start to feel a lot better soon - and do try to take it as easy as you can. A good phrase is 'I can't do that' at your stage, so make full use of it! To put things in perspective, a lovely gp I saw likened the surgery to having a car crash, just more controlled. Your body has been through a big event. I didn't even try to go for a proper walk until four weeks out this time round, and that was without having had all of the bleeding and pain you have had. Have a lovely but definitely lazy Christmas. Smile

tinkxx65 · 23/12/2012 07:04

Thanks Fen, I am glad I went, the discomfort is unbearable really, sort of feels like my skin wants to split open from all the pressure of the swelling. Footle will be telling me off - I was given dhiydrocodeine (sp?) which I took last night and again this morning, but have decided not to take any more if I feel better later as I googled it and it can make you constipated, also I couldn't sleep and it made my mouth really dry. Just hoping the antibiotics kick in soon and reduce the swelling.

With regard the walking - yes four weeks sounds good, I really couldn't face even trying again at the moment.

I am hoping the swelling is the reason I cant do a BM properly so am trying to keep positive, as yesterday I was back to wiping and wiping Sad

You have all been lovely and a great support, thankyou xx

Bladderama · 23/12/2012 08:18

Sad Tinxx look after yourself and take it easy, it really does take time to recover from these op's. So sorry that your recovery has not been straight forward.

Troubled my heart goes out to you what an awful day you had. Very sorry to hear that you will need more surgery and have delays. I have gone private but am not in London so cant recommend a local Gynae for you.

Mincepie that sounds dreadful for you have you been in to see your GP yet?

Welcome to all of the other new ladies.

Thank you for all of your kind words after the urodynamics appointment I really appreciated it and am now glad to have more information ready to start getting my bladder issues resolved. I think that I didn't cope so well due to something that happened years ago which still upsets me which I know is silly.

I keep bleeding during/after sex Xmas Blush and thought that I should be past this stage at 17 weeks post op. Has this happened to anyone else or do any of you have any advice? Also still quite painful.....

Sending healing vibes to all and hope that you are all ready for Christmas, remember to relax and enjoy and let others help and look after you x

fengirl1 · 23/12/2012 08:42

Mincepie, you need to see your gp. From what you said about the tampon, it sounds like you would be an ideal candidate for a ring pessary at the very least.

frequentwee · 23/12/2012 09:30

Tink, you must feel relieved. I hope you can put your feet up over Christmas and relax now.

Happy Christmas to everyone and I hope the NewYear is positive for all. I am returning to my GP on 27 th to have a proper talk about options. Hoping I will feel better after that and that I don't spoil Christmas by bring anxious about the whole business.

Happy Christmas to all.

Footle · 23/12/2012 12:09

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roseanna1 · 23/12/2012 16:35

Bladder - can't pretend to know what you've gone through, but just wanted you to know you're not alone in having past issues causing problems with these kind of tests. I think the combination of fear and humiliation is a potent one, but try to gain some comfort and strength from the fact that you got through the tests and didn't let what has happened hold you back from getting yourself on track for the life you want in the future. I'm proud of you x

wouldratherbeskiing · 23/12/2012 17:49

Tinkx - thank goodness you have been seen - and relieved to hear the repair is looking good despite swelling.

Footle - we all offer advice based on our own experience so don't feel bad. Your advice on these threads has been so valuable for me and I'm grateful to you for pointing out possible side effects.

I'll take this opportunity to wish all you lovely people on this thread a very Merry Christmas but most of all a happy and healthy New Year. I don't know what I would have done without you xxx

WhoKnowsWhereTheMistletoes · 23/12/2012 18:12

Mincepie - the only thing I can add other than seeing your GP is try and avoid any heavy lifting, especially from ground level, leaping and jumping needs to be as low impact as you can get away with, especially if not wearing cushioned shoes and you need to get your feet up as much as you can.

I also want to wish everyone a Merry Christmas, this thread has been hugely important to me this year, it is very strange the subjects you can make friends with on MN but what a blessing it is. Hope everyone has as comfortable time as possible over the holidays and that all recoveries continue uneventfully.

tinkxx65 · 23/12/2012 21:12

Footle I seem to have offended you - It was not written with anything but a friendly smile - the trouble with texting and MNing is there is no tone or anything in writing. Really didnt mean any harm, have a great christmas and your advice has always been spot on and very much welcomed xx

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Tr0ubled · 24/12/2012 01:01

Tink so glad you got seen and hopefully you'll turn a huge corner in your recovery now.
I'm off to my mums tomorrow for a week (was meant to be going as a patient but now will have to help cooking!) she has little Internet connection so I just wanted to wish all you lovely ladies a very happy Christmas and New Year. X
Xmas Smile

Footle · 24/12/2012 09:48

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fengirl1 · 24/12/2012 16:32

Sending everyone sincere wishes for a peaceful, pain-free and happy Christmas and New Year. X

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