why do parents refuse their baby / childs vaccines?

[bethjoanne]

in the uk we are so lucky to have an nhs---- doctors ,nurses ,treatments and vaccines we should be so grateful.in third world countries babies /children die of terrible diseases and also our relatives eg great great great grandmas would have done anything to have their children vaccinated IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE DREAM TO HAVE AN NHS AND VACCINES, instead they had to witness their child suffer i dread to think what they went through.
what country you are born in is luck of the drawer.
we should be grateful for medical care and vaccines available to us and have our baby/ child vaccinated.
i cannot believe some parents are so selfish and ruthless putting others at risk and starting an epidemic what happened in history and other third world countries .when the nhs is here to help and protect us now.x
ps think about babies 0 day old to 15 months who are too young to be covered /vaccinated.10 babies have died recently from whooping cough.also there has been 2 well known footballers had meningitis recently so there is reported cases,surely this needs nipping in the bud .
why are parents still refusing to vaccinate?

Hello Leonie

"therefore most of the cases are in vaccinated children"

Do you know what proportion of vaccinated, and what proportion of unvaccinated, children become infected?

Well, actually they are kind of typhoid marys. Sorry about that.

Who knows how many people your dd infected over the summer if she did indeed have pertussis.

"Stop making my kids into Typhoid Marys - they are not carrying any diseases, ta."

How do you know they aren't?

And the 10 babies who have died of whooping cough were all, I think, too young to have been vaccinated. They were depending on other people not passing the disease on to them.

My qualifying 'kind of' referred to the spreading of the disease, not the lack of symptoms. Just like whooping cough which she went around spreading.

YOU suspected wc, not me. If you did, then the responsible thing would to be have to kept her home for three weeks. Presumably if you had taken to the docotr, you'd have had diagnosis.

"But seeker, vaccinated children are just as likely to pass on WC as unvaccinated."

No they aren't!

I'm not the one boasting about how pleased I am that my child has had whooping cough.

If you had suspected WC (whether your GP had confirmed or not, since you know best), then surely the responsible thing to do would have been to have kept your dd home for 3 weeks.

You KNOW wc is contagious. You THINK your dd has WC. Did you keep her home for 3 weeks and away from other people?

Strange that your other dd didn't get it, considering how contagious WC is. But don't let that interfere with your narrative.

Oh for gods sake Leonie. A little bit of common sense.

Most cases of whooping cough are in vaccinated children because most children are vaccinated.

What's important for an individual child is the RELATIVE risk. And you are far more LIKELY to get whooping cough if you're not vaccinated (and far far more likely to get it severely).

It's kind of basic statistics.

If you suspected she had whooping cough you should have kept her isolated for 3 weeks. Which is the responsible thing to do, so I am sure that's what you did?

But you asked why most cases of whooping cough are unvaccinated children- it seemed that you didn't know.

And presumably you introduced your daughter into the discussion- you made it personal!

The whooping cough cough is very distinctive- so if it didn't cross your mind qt the beginning it's unlikely that it was WC.

"seeker: then why are most cases of WC in vaccinated children?"

Was this rhetorical then?

Wow. Wakefield has a lot to answer for, I wonder how he sleeps at night.

So why are you on this thread? Not to debate, or to inform.... So what?