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can teething cause vomiting in your experience?

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Heathcliffscathy · 30/01/2006 21:37

ds vomited on friday. once. we put it down to a lemon curd tart that he'd made at nursery (he doesn't get on with egg v well). all weekend nothing at all, eating as normal.

today 5.30pm vomit. dinner. 8.45 vomit.

we're assuming a bug/food poisoning but he is also teething like a demon (he is 2 and has all four back molars coming through, he is constantly rubbing them with his fingers and just has more saliva than can be believed}. He also has a stuffed up nose with lots of snot (no cough). He has v red cheeks and a red ear periodically over the last few days.

i know that teething can affect poo, but can vomiting be about teething too?

also, i asked about what you do when they vom on here before and had great advice from grumpy zebra (i think nothing for 3 hours then sips of water then if that is kept down something v bland tiny bit then if that is kept down for half an hour build up, but back to square one if any vomiting). but any advice very much appreciated...

tia

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Heathcliffscathy · 30/01/2006 21:41

this is zebra's advice (i've cut and pasted it from the other thread so i can access it easily from this one)

Zebra: I feel really strongly about this... I think most people get the treatment wrong for tummy bugs, and then it takes longer to get rid of it. Most tummy bugs should be gone within 1/2 day if you do the right things...but then, I didn't know the right treatment for getting rid of tummy bugs myself until I read Chris Green's books.

ONLY WATER for at least 3 hours after the last vomitting episode, preferably longer, if your child isn't too miserable. Give a little sip of water every 5-10 minutes, and that's it. Don't think juice, although dioralyte is ok and breastmilk is usually ok. Anything you give them with calories in it aside from breastmilk is just feeding the tummy bug. Don't look it as starving the child, because anything you give the child with calories in it will just feed the tummy bug. You aren't feeding the child any more, you are starving the tummy bug out. Little sips of water may come up, but a lot of liquid will get absorbed, too, if you give it steadily.

When the child is very hungry and seems to have brightened up at least 3 hours after last vomitting & preferably overnight with an older child/person try a very small amount of food and wait 15 minutes to see how it settles. Then repeat. It doesn't actually matter what you feed them initially (olive oil or cow's milk is as good as dry toast). Although, personally, I would go for something that is easy to vomit back up if they do sick up again.

The point is to starve out the tummy bug while giving fluids to keep them hydrated.

Someone I know just kept feeding her children juice when they had tummy bugs and the poor things couldn't get better... it made me so sad ; after almost a week of having tummy bug one little girl ended up in hospital, the mother wouldn't believe me about starving the damn microbes out & kept trying her on food too soon, keeping the tummy bugs alive.

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Heathcliffscathy · 31/01/2006 10:25

bump

he hasn't been sick again yet. he has had one organix gingerbread man biscuit (they are small) and half a banana over the last hour and a half.

he has a temp.

what is this? any ideas anyone?

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newkid · 31/01/2006 10:35

is he coughing at all. My dd has a stinking cold. Vomited at night last Thursday, had temp on Fri and Sat. Has been sick once or twice since after drinking quickly. She is better now with no temp but still has stuffy nose and cough (with some gagging). Think there is cold bug going round.

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Heathcliffscathy · 31/01/2006 10:38

no coughing newkid...thanks so much for replying!

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mummytosteven · 31/01/2006 10:40

No, had runny tummy but not vomiting from teething. Agree with mykids that it may well be a tummy/cold bug - there are all sorts of nasty tummy bugs going round atm. Sounds like he's doing OK with light snacks, so I guess just take his lead as to when he next wants food.

Flossam · 31/01/2006 10:44

My friend swears that is what causes her DS to vomit, although once in a shopping centre food hall he did a HUGE vomit all over the floor just after his dinner. I would have swore that couldn't have been caused by teething. However, low and behold a few days later several molars appeared. DS has never been sick. He gets runny nosed and sore bottom. His poo dosen't tend to go runny, just 'bitty' and hard to clean. Therefore making sore bottom worse. So in short I don't know either. All I can summise is that ever baby is different! Some people on here swear teething causes a temperature as well but I have yet to notice that in DS.

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Heathcliffscathy · 31/01/2006 10:49

thanks flossam

he's listless too....

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Bozza · 31/01/2006 10:50

Sophable sounds very much like my DD. She is only 20 months but getting the top back molars (she teeths early). She has an awful cold and has had sporadic high temps (but brought down OK with calpol) and runny, mucusy nappies. She was sick on Sunday am (in my bed on me) and I am putting it down to all the snot she had swallowed, especially because she had been laid down all night.

However DH and DS have been quite poorly all last week and so am wondering if she has got what they have got although that is more of a fluey type thing, neither of them have been sick. She does seem less poorly though so am not sure.

Flossam · 31/01/2006 10:51

I'd say he probably was poorly then. Has he got molars yet? DS has had the first corner of one and that was definately worse for him.

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Heathcliffscathy · 31/01/2006 10:52

he is 2 years 3 months and we're waiting on all four of the massive back ones.

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Flossam · 31/01/2006 10:55

Ohh, I don't know sophable. I thin that with the nasty back teeth it might be different. My friends DS is 14 months and already has 16 teeth!

Enid · 31/01/2006 10:56

yes yes yes and yes

dd2 vomited badly every time she cut a tooth - it took me about 2 years to work out thats what it was - doh.

Flossam · 31/01/2006 10:57

That wasn't supposed to sound dissmissive, sorry. I simply mean I am going round in circles much like you, teething, poorly. I guess though at the end of the day, treatment for both is similar. Painkillers and a gentle day, eating/drinking as much or as little as he wants. If he continues to be listless check with GP maybe?

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Heathcliffscathy · 31/01/2006 11:03

you didn't flossam....i really appreciate the input!

enid, just once or several times for each?

ds has puked once on fri and twice yesterday once 4 hours after lunch (which i shared with him and i'm fine) and once 2 hours after a supper of plain pasta with bit of ketchup which he didn't eat much of. he ha had a red ear and been drooling and rubbing the back of his mouth loads last few days so is deffo teething

we're watching cbeebies on sofa. his hands and feet are hot...

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Heathcliffscathy · 31/01/2006 11:04

not saying vom is teething rather that he is teething atm!

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Enid · 31/01/2006 11:08

soph - lots

but tbh he sounds also a bit poorly - can you get his ears checked?

beejay · 31/01/2006 11:09

People tend to blame teething for all sorts of malaises -- sleep disturbance, lack of appetite, dribbling, crying, tummy problems.
Personally I really doubt that they can cause all these things-- my dd is 6 and getting her adult teeth through. Doesn't seem to be causing her any distress at all.
Nor did her baby teeth-- though she dribbled and cried just as much as other babies...
Don't you think that so called teething symptoms might just be normal baby behaviour?

Enid · 31/01/2006 11:11

no I don't tbh

I think its perfectly possible for the extra saliva to irritate the gut and also for the swelling to cause localised inflammation especially in the ears.

Bozza · 31/01/2006 11:12

I think unless you feel he needs the doctor you will just have to wait it out and it will all become clear in retrospect. Think that's how it will be with DD.

Flossam is that really ? Both of mine had 16 teeth before 14 m (DS about 11.5 and DD about 12.5 months).

I have noticed that a couple of DS's teeth are wobbly so I am predicting that just as soon as DD fills in the last two, DS will start loosing his and getting his next lot. Do they hurt as well?

Bozza · 31/01/2006 11:13

Oh cross-posted with beejay. But I am curious about it. I agree that some things are mistakenly put down to teething, but disagree that teething doesn't have any effect.

LeahE · 31/01/2006 11:13

DS never normally vomits and doesn't appear to have a tummy bug but vomited a couple of times(small amounts, not a real tummy-heaver) on Saturday and then lo and behold on Sunday a premolar appeared.

This is just one incident and purely anecdotal but I'll be watching with interest to see if the same thing happens with other back teeth (no vomiting with the incisors when those came through).

chicagomum · 31/01/2006 11:17

You may want to read this article .

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Heathcliffscathy · 31/01/2006 11:24

i hear what that article is saying but know for a fact that teething can cause diaorreah (sp)....

i am of course going to take him to dr if he gets worse or is same tomorrow

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chicagomum · 31/01/2006 11:28

I tend to be in agreement with you sophable. I know the "science" says it isn't but you see so many babies/toddlers who are teething and do have nappy rash etc etc it just seems a huge coincidence.

Flossam · 31/01/2006 11:28

Well perhaps DS is just a little bit backward then He has 8 and the first bit of a molar 9 come through last week. He's looked quite odd as he was missing a bottom one since xmas.

I think the difference between baby teeth and adult teeth is the teeth have to do an awful lot more cutting of the gums. Also the saliva is antibacterial and as such become more acidic and therefore is definately responsible for causing poor sore bottoms.

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