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Homepathic Medication

60 replies

Birchy · 01/11/2005 21:06

What are your views on this? I've tried it for myself and my ds and dd. I think it is great and works so well for us. My ds has ADHD and Aspergers and my daughter has a problem with her tummy which my GP has no idea what it is (or was!!!)
I didn't want to go the Ritalin way with my ds it just didn't feel right for me and for our family.
Would love to hear your views on this.

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LadyTophamHatt · 01/11/2005 21:09

easy isn't it?

lockets · 01/11/2005 21:12

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Birchy · 01/11/2005 21:22

I find it really easy to use and my homeopath is an absolute star! Don't know what i would have done without her!

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LadyTophamHatt · 01/11/2005 21:27

so is evening primrose homeopathic?

I really need something for PMT, I've tried evening primrose but that was yonks ago. My pmt has got worse with each child so I doubt it would do any thing now.

But then on the other hand my memory is so bad that I forget to take it anyway. It's a vicious circle. I need somethinmg to improve my memory and banish my PMt.

is there such a thing?

Birchy · 01/11/2005 21:30

I do take a remedy for PMT but it isn't evening primrose. Mine is a tea which tastes lovely and has made me a completley different person! I'm not sure if Evening Primrose would come under Homepathic but it is very good! Just need to take it! I'll get the name of the tea i take. Might help?

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Fauve · 01/11/2005 21:33

YOu could try Agnus Castus for 'hormonal fluctuations', LTH.

We use homeopathy, although to my mind it's like believing in God - a leap of faith. But it's better than the alternative.

BudaBabe · 01/11/2005 21:39

Haven't tried Homeopathy myself but it did wonders for my sis - she had bad PND and hormonal migraines. Worked for her.

I had acupuncture years ago for PMT and it really helped.

Worn off now unfortunately!!!

Prufrock · 01/11/2005 21:42

Evening primrose - or any type of tea, is not homeopathy, but herbal. Completely different things. Homeopathy works on the principle of "like cures likes" - that is, a substance which produces particular symptoms when given to a healthy person, will cure similar symptoms in an ill person when given in a potentized (very diluted, but strangely more powerful) form.

LTH, there should definately be a remedy to cure both, but you would have to go to a homeopath to find out. There are thousands of different remedies, and only one will suit the exact combination of your physical symptoms and general mental state. Many people say taht homeopathy doesn't work, or is only a placebo, because they buy otc remedies which a real homeopath would never prescribe for them - whilst there are a few general remedies (e.g. arnica - which will help bruising in almost anybody) it's actually totally against homepathic principles to always prescribe a particular remedy for a particular illness, remedies must be matched very specifically to the person, rather than the illness, to have a true effect.

(can you tell I'm using Mumsnet as procrastination from doing my latest essay on fever remedies)

LadyTophamHatt · 01/11/2005 21:52

blimey, thats really confused me.

Gonna read it again....

Chocol8 · 01/11/2005 22:12

Birchy - my ds has ADHD and AS too (by the way do you visit the Special Needs section on here?)

I have been to the Homeopathy Hospital for a follow up appt today, where I was originally given Ignatia. It didn't work at all and I was really pinning my hopes on it too!

I've been given 2 different preparations today which I will try because conventional medicine has not managed to improve things for well over a year.

Anyway, I have a friend whose sons go to a homeopath and have found it really effective. The son still has Ritalin but for his other ailments, he has remedies which seem to work really well for him. She tells me she's seen a vast improvement in him. I expect a good homeopath will be able to advise you if they are happy for the patient to be on conventional and homeopathic medicines at the same time?

Good luck - and just to say, my ds took Ritalin to start with - although I was very opposed to it - and it worked wonders for him.

spidermama · 01/11/2005 22:14

Every time I have been to a homeopath the problem has been sorted very quickly.
I don't pretend to understand it. It's a leap of faith, but it seems to produce results so I'll certainly go again.

GeorginaA · 01/11/2005 22:19

Prufrock - did you say fever remedies

Can you suggest a remedy for me - have pharyngitis, warm drinks actually help my throat rather than make it worse as you expect. Not particularly painful, just uncomfortable (but then I am dosed up on ibuprofen/paracetamol due to running a high temp) also have a mega mouth ulcer (that last bit is relevant, I promise). I noticed on a tonsilitis remedy site one of the recommendeds was sulphur and I already have sulphur in and worked extremely well for me with the mouth ulcer lurgy - is it worth a try to see if it helps? How soon would I know if it was helping?

I have been prescribed antibiotics, but the first lot they prescribed me was of the same family I'm allergic to so have spent this morning feeling violently sick. The second lot I've been given I've discovered I have a 10% chance of also being badly allergic to as it shares cross-sensitivity to penicillin and I'm scared to risk feeling as bad as I did this morning, or worse.

Getting concerned as this is my 3rd day of taking ibuprofen/paracetamol round the clock, and if I'm not careful I'm going to start getting side effects from them...

Sorry to hijack

Davros · 01/11/2005 22:28

I think homeopathy is a load of mumbo jumbo. Well, you did ask!

essbee · 01/11/2005 22:31

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Fauve · 01/11/2005 22:39

It does appear to be, Davros. But it works.

Fauve · 01/11/2005 22:39

Even on racehorses, so it can't be psychosomatic.

Prufrock · 01/11/2005 22:42

LTH - an example for you (what a suprise, it's a fever remedy)

If you eat lots of chamomile flowers, you will be very ill. Different people become ill in different ways, but common symptoms are a high fever, earache, toothache, one red cheek, one pale, immense irritability, impatience and temper, a compulsion to walk about, anxious dream, drowsiness without being able to fall asleep....

Many people drink chamomile tea - as an aid to relaxation. It helps "cure" irritabilty, and can aid sleep. In this way it is acting almost homepathically - it's a dilution of the original substance - but, if you drink lots and lots of chamomile tea, it can actually make you more stressed and stop you sleeping.

The homepathic remedy chamomilla (which is an extrememly dilute form of the plant) will cure all the given symptoms. It is often used for babies with teething pain - you know when they get into that really whingy grumpy state, reaching for things then throwning them away - that's classic chamomilla.

The best (non hippy-dippy) explanation I've been given so far is that when we are ill, it's because our immune systems can't fight off the casue of our illness because for some reason they don't recognise it. Giving a homeopathic remedy that causes similar symptoms gives the immune system a nudge to tell it what it needs to be fighting. It can recognise the remedy, and in marshalling it's forces to fight off the remedy, it inadvertently cures the original symptoms as well.

bakabat · 01/11/2005 22:58

quantum physics can provide an explanation for homeopathay Davros (spinning electons and all that).

Never used to believe in it until I gave ds1 his 1st remedy out of sheer desperation, and it worked in a completely miraculous way. Found it very helpful for our family.

funny thing is where I work now they conduct research into alternative medicines - and they keep finding that they have more that placebo effects (ie they work as well as any drug). But then rather than saying "ok how?" they seem to then say "but that's impossible" and try again, and they describe the results as "worrying".. I keep sniggering to myself.

GeorginaA · 01/11/2005 23:01

Just want to say thanks to prufrock who has been chatting to me on IM Will let you know how I get on...

/agree bakabat - I've had a couple of "miraculous" results with homeopathy. Maybe just some body types are more susceptable to homeopathy than others? (I know my body type is useless with mainstream medicine a good 60% of the time )

Birchy · 01/11/2005 23:30

prufrock - you obviously are doing your homework!!!
Good luck with that!

Chocol8 - no i haven't looked at that yet. Still very new to MN but will do. Thank you.

The treatments that i have been given for DS and DD did take a while to work and we tried diffent things. Until a remedy called Tub worked wonders for DS. I agree that you do have to have faith in it and it will work for you but is that not the same for lots of things?!

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Ulysees · 01/11/2005 23:56

Works well for my family

Tub is tubercolosis isn't it? One of us had that one once, can't remember what for now though?

I'm always amazed that it can help with emotional as well as physical symptoms.

Ulysees · 02/11/2005 00:00

Just read LTH asking about PMT. PMT Escape is supposed to be excellent, think you get it in health shops, Boots etc..

Davros · 02/11/2005 16:46

Many immune system illnesses are due to the immune system being OVER active (I have one called Scleroderma) so the last thing I want is my immune system to become even more active and I have to take immuno suppresants...... I did try homeopathy and went to the London Homeopathic hospital some years ago, it didn't help my illness at all and made me very stressed with all the teeny pills and rules about how to take them etc. I had a lot of respect for the people I saw there who said they would not interfere in my conventional medication at all but would add theirs..... I just couldn't handle having that on top of being very ill and taking other medication and I'm very skeptical about the whole dilution theory. Has anyone found Homeopathy effective with something very severe? I don't think I would be here today without conventional medicine, maybe homeopathy could have helped but I just didn't need an extra layer of treatment and responsibility for taking the treatment. In my last job too, which was to do with people dying from cancer, we had several cases where people had tried alternative medicine but, even if it had given some benefits, these were not long lasting (or they wouldn't be on our study obviously).

Fauve · 02/11/2005 16:57

Actually, Davros, I did have a similar experience of homeopathy once when I had an acute illness - it does rely on the patient being able to cope with lots of lifestyle changes - and the practitioner seemed to be setting the bar way too high for me - which if you feel awful can be just too much.

Prufrock · 02/11/2005 23:49

Davros - Hahnemann (founder of homeopathy) was actually one of the first people to put forward the idea of over active immune systems. He characterised people as suffering form one of three chronic miasms - Psora, or under function; Sycosis, or over function and Syphilis, or destruction and this was in the C18th.

It is quite strange that homeopathy today is seen as being unscientific, when at the time of it's development it was far more rigourously scientific than any conventional medicine. If (and I know it's a big ask) you can accept the principles of like cures like (which after all is not that big a jump from vaccination), and potentization (which merely requires you to think as a quantum physicist rather than a chemist), the rest of homeopathy si extraordinarily scientific. Hundreds of thousands of careful observations of symptoms produced during experimental provings, followed by those drugs being used only to treat the symptoms we know the drugs cause. And all of this at a time when the majority of doctors were still using leeches and purging.

I do fully accept that there has been alot of quackery in alternative medicine in general in the more recent past, and homepathy has unfortunately been tarred with the same brush as some of the more out-there therapies. And unfortunately some homeopaths become so evangelical about it that they fail to recognise that conventional medicine (well most of it) has also moved on from leeches and purging. FWIW, my opinion is that conventional medicine can rarely provide a complete cure - that is a restoration of complete harmony within the complex immune/mind/endocrine etc systems - but can provide excellent palliative, and life saving, results whislt the body (hopefully prompted by homeopathy) gets round to putting it's own house back into order.