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I need help. I need to lose a fair bit of weight, and then not only shall I be skinny but healthy to as all my health problems will disappear

35 replies

Saltire · 21/01/2011 07:56

apparently. Doctors use wieght as the default blame for everything.
I am 6ft tall. I weigh 92 kg (approx 14 stone). I have HBp. I have Fibromyalgia 9cosntant muscle pain,numbness, eye problems etc)

The doc wants me down to my ideal weight which he says is 62 kg. He said "I think you'll find that if you get down to that wieght your HBP will go dwn to normal and all your other health problems will clear up as well, you are carrying far far too much weight"

Hmm. I've had Fibro pain since I was 19. When I weighed 8 stone and was a size 10! He then told me
"do you never look at yourself in the mirror and think I could look so much slimmer" and "you obviously have really bad genes inherited if you say your mum has HBP.

So can anyone recommend a diet for me, as I need to lose 0.5 kg a week till i reach my weight.

oh and I walk 6 miles a day to and from school, plus another walk of at least 1 mile in the afternoon. I can't do high impact aerobics because of my Fibromyalgia. I won't go to the tgym because I cannot go during the day and in the evening it's packed and you have to wait

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tiredemma · 21/01/2011 07:59

62kg for 6ft????? that doesnt sound right.

sassythefirst · 21/01/2011 08:00

62 kg is very light - under 10st I think! Seems way too light for a 6 footer, especially someone who is as active as you say, and thus will have a fair amount of muscle.

QuintessentialShadows · 21/01/2011 08:02

Saltire, my sister has fibromyalgia too, so her muscles also ache a fair bit. She goes for walks, and then does some movement to music at home, like light dancing, followed by a good set of stretches.

She is also very strict with her diet, and find that a "Mediterranean" diet with plenty of veg, such as eggplant in her cooking is beneficial. Like Ratatouille. And fish dishes, as meat makes her heavy. Along with red wine, or rose. People with arthritic type conditions should avoid white wine.

You probably feel quite hungry with all that walking, so try to avoid snacking.

Do you eat lots of sweets, chocs, crisps, etc? Avoid like the plague, and fizzy drinks too.

tiredemma · 21/01/2011 08:02

that would give you a BMI of 18.4

QuintessentialShadows · 21/01/2011 08:04

I agree that 62 seems very light. I am also tall. I have gone down from 92 to 85, and dont think I could lose more than another 10 kg, tops.

tiredemma · 21/01/2011 08:06

im 62kg and I am a whole foot shorter than you. I am only slightly overweight ("stocky")!!

62 kg would be far to light.

SwearyMary · 21/01/2011 08:12

I'm 58kg and 5ft tall......

I think 70kg is where you need to be, OP.

SwearyMary · 21/01/2011 08:13

70kg is just less than 10 stones.

Saltire · 21/01/2011 08:47

Ok thanks for comments. I do think that the wieght he recommends is too low. What made me laugh is that the senior doc there agreed with him - and she is the build of Dawn french.
He told me that I need to half my protion sizes.
So, here's what I ate yesterday
breakfast - 2 slices toast
lunch - 1 slices bread with cheese and pickle, 1 banana (am I meant to ahlf them if he wants me to half portion sizes) and some tinned pienapple with natural yoghurt

dinner - 1 tabelspoon of beef casserole
1 tablespoon of potatos and 2 tablespoon of carrot and swede mash

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Saltire · 21/01/2011 08:49

That was half my usual portion sizes. i have stopped drinking tea or coffee during the day - as the want of a biscuit diminshes. I drink squash instead.

I also take medication, which has made me put on wieght I take amitryptiline at night and painkillers. I also periodically take steroids for asthma (although ont eh whole my asthma is very much under control, I can wlak further without the need for inhalers). I have got fitter since I moved here, as I am wlaking more 8but* I childmind ofr a 1year old and a 3 year old, and of course when out walking cannot get a good pace going as walking at 3 year old apce looking at leaves, clouds, cars etc

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Saltire · 21/01/2011 08:52

Quint - I have found that taking or not taking alcohol has no effect on my Fibro at all. I can go months and months without a pain flare up, but have got constant tingling in 2 fingers, numbness in one hand, I get sight and memory problems and often complete numbness in one arm or leg - what I'm trying to say is that I get those symptoms more than the flare up pain

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throckenholt · 21/01/2011 08:58

if that is half your portion size then it sounds about right. Were you really eating 4 slices of toast for breakfast before ?

I think your GP lacks a good bedside manner, and agree although loosing weight will probably make you feel better generally and may help the BP, it is unlikely to solve all your problems (after all skinny people also get ill too). And I think the others comments have shown that the target weight sounds daft.

If you walk that much each day then your fitness level may well be better than your gp anyway :).

So maybe the way to go is to try and cut the portion sizes, eat healthy food (no rubbish like sweets), and keep on the walking. Even slow pace walking would use up more energy than sitting at a desk (like I do).

IShallWearMidnight · 21/01/2011 09:02

try cutting out bread and maybe increase protein a bit (something egg based at breakfast rather than toast). But make sure you have plenty of quantity of food (more veg, salad) as otherwise your body coudl switch to starvation mode, and then you wo't lose any weight.

That being said, what they are reccomending is a silly weight for someone of your height.

Jajas · 21/01/2011 09:09

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thighsmadeofcheddar · 21/01/2011 09:12

Why don't you try some porridge or oats for breakfast? Keep you fuller for longer and better than toast.
I think you're eating too little as well. What about some fruit for snacks or some seeds and nuts?

Saltire · 21/01/2011 09:17

Sorry - the 2 slices of toast was normal breakfast, I went to the doc after breakfast, and then reduced my portions. I have breakfast aobut 7am, as I have 2 Dcs to get ready and often get mindees dropped off just after 8am, and we hav eto leave the house at 8.30. So I need everything ready, by then.

last night I was starving by 9pm so i wnet to bed.

I had 1 slice of toast and a bowl of shreddies this morning and have walked 3 miles. We eat a lot of fruit and veg. I do occasionally eat "crap" such as crisps or chocs or a biscuit, but not every day, in fact I cannot remember the last time I had crisps. I eat less crap and more regularly now that I am not working out the home

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Saltire · 21/01/2011 09:20

Heres what I ate on Wednesday before going to doc (doc was thursday)
breakfast - 2 slices of toast
snack at 10am - banana
lunch - 2 slices of bread made into sandwich, bunch of grapes and a kit kat
dinner - shepherds pie (mince and mash) and green beans. At 7pm I had 2 rich tea biscuits with a cup of tea.
1 glass of wine

I know all this because if I have bad pain days I make a not of what I eat in case there is something triggering it off

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WynkenBlynkenandNod · 21/01/2011 09:20

Agree that it sounds too little and the weight suggsted is too light for your height. I've got stacks to lose but am well on the way, I have lost 38.5lbs (the half counts too !) in the last 6 months.

Have found switching to protein breakfast, reducing carb portions and not eating bread has helped. Today I am going to have:

1 quorn sausage, 76g lean bacon, an egg, mushroom, tomatoes and melon for breakfast.

Chorizo lasagne, green beans, strawberries with meringue nest and tablespoon creme fraiche for lunch.

Not sure about tea, am cooking spag bol so may have that or a jacket potato.

Will have fruit between if I need it but think I won't and am having a Wispa and Options hot choc this evening. Exercise will be swimming 50 lengths.

This all fits into WW's new Propoints plan which I have been finding works well for me giving a steady loss each week of up to 2lbs.

Saltire · 21/01/2011 09:24

I can't have anything hot for lunch, because its eaten very quickly if mindee 's attention is elsehwere and his older brother can keep off the loo for 10 minutes for me to eat it. Often it gets thrown out at 3pm, having gone hard and crispy!

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TrillianAstra · 21/01/2011 09:24

I would just like to congratulate you on your use of the word "lose" weight in your title.

Everyone pay attention, you do not "loose" weight, you "lose" it.

:)

62 kilos definitely too low if you are 6ft, unless you are a very very strange build. I thought doctors were supposed to use BMI?

Saltire · 21/01/2011 09:26

Trillian - ah but I put "to" instead of "too" in titleGrin

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TrillianAstra · 21/01/2011 09:29

shhhhh no-one noticed

TrillianAstra · 21/01/2011 09:30

Anyway, you clearly do know the difference between too and to so I was right to not pick you up on it. My pedantry isn't about the occassional typo but about people genuinely not knowing which is the right word. They need to be taught.

TrillianAstra · 21/01/2011 09:31

For weight loss I recommend the Lord Ford

(food focus = ford focus = lord ford)

RunnerHasbeen · 21/01/2011 09:46

I think you should start a food and exercise diary but more importantly you should stop looking for other people to reassure you that you are healthy and blameless for putting on weight, be that other posters or doctors, even if you are. That was the bit that took me longest to realise (I also put weight on due to illness and steroids), why it is there doesn't matter, it is going to be just as hard to get off - I kind of thought blame free weight would get me some kind of free pass. I never over-ate but still needed to under-eat to get the weight off, if that makes sense.

My problems were joint based not muscle, so in most ways I was luckier than you, but I picked a selection of activities, so if I was having trouble with my feet, say, I could still swim or row - it became more about things I could do than couldn't, which was a big psychological hurdle. Can you cycle to school instead, it's just that I always found the slow walking you describe to be more wearing and tiring but without the cardiovascular benefits.

It does sound that you might want reassurance that your weight isn't a problem more than actual advice (sorry if I've got that wrong) but it is worth a shot. Surely you are desperate to feel better and will try anything? I think it helps to be actually doing something as well (takes away the depressing feeling of the illness and pain being never ending) even if it doesn't actually work. Good luck, even if it doesn't work at least the doctor will then look at you more closely and be able to see things like BP more clearly - that will be a success in itself.

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