Oh The Weather Outside Is Frightful, But The LIGHTer Ladies Are So Delightful!

[Mouseface]

And since we've no place to go...........

Let's stay here for a while instead!!

Hello, tis me, Mouseface.

I am currently mainlining cheddar cheese and Baileys but need to lose some weight. You can see where I'm going wrong, right?

Come meet the others.........

just missed you - sleep well bitter.

can't believe the time already. don't want to go to bed but want 8 hours sleep. the night should be longer.

and hi val hope you had a lovely time in london

Santa I agree, the night should be longer Had a lovely time at the meet up

Hi Instructions

see you tomorrow dubs.

yep longer we need the night to somehow have 5 hrs between 10pm and 1am but for children to somehow still go to bed and get up at the same time.

glad you enjoyed london val.

I can no longer post on here.
The manner in which Hammy was dealt with on Monday horrified me beyond words.
You may be right in principle but that her need for somewhere to feel safe and normal was not identified by some was appalling.

I have been on many many threads re DA in my journey and blaming the victim is generally avoided. Hammy is as much a victim as her children and the posts making it clear that she couldn't post on here unless she sprang into action closed a door of support to a desperate vulnerable woman. And for that, I think those who expressed themselves so harshly should be ashamed. And to then say 'but we have offered to help you' was beyond belief.

Hammy has not been triggered into action she is now in a horrendous state. I would have thought that it would be recognised that her self esteem and worth needed rebuilding IN ORDER to help her children.

I know from threads on here that it can take serially abuse women years to leave their abusers and oiling even more guilt on their heads is the last thing they need.

The truth can be told in many ways, it didn't need to be told that way.

If she had many feathers left, they are now sorely damage which is of no use to her children whatsoever.

Some problems are too big for MN to deal with. The post re:5 year old and passed out husband - I doubt that any other thread on MN would have reacted any differently. But maybe she would be better supported on OTBT by the Shiney crew?

Miitz - I'm really sorry you feel that way because I class you as a friend and have no wish to upset or distress you at all.

I don't feel ashamed at all though. I've read her other thread and her husband is a child abuser. I cannot sit and chat to someone who allows their children to be abused. I don't blame her for being a victim of da of course I don't, that would be stupid. However, I do blame her for allowing her children to continue to be victims of domestic abuse.

From her previous threads this has been going on for years and she has said she doesn't stay because of money issues or fear or love, just because its easier. While her children are sworn at and physcally assaulted. Imho she should feel guilty.

If she needs help to leave him then there are many organisations that can help her, its not for a thread on mn to do that I don't think.

I can't be all nicey nicey with someone in the hope they might one day leave their abusive husband, while in the meantime they are posting about their children being sworn at and abused. If that makes me a bad person so be it.

I also don't think that this was her 'safe place' to post. She'd only started posting, what? about 2 days before?

Its a safe place for the rest of us to post, a place where we don't want to hear about the abuse of children if there's nothing we can do about it.

I come here to relax and chat, not to listen to someone ask for votes on whether she should leave her 5 year old with a man who a. is passed out and b. has already physically hurt said 5 year old

If she'd come looking for help fair enough, but just to post such horrendous stuff as if it was totally normal when she obviously isn't going to do anything to change it is not on.

Actually I'm pissed off now, I don't need lectures off anyone thanks, perhaps you should be directing some of your anger at your friend.

have a good day dubs x

i'm off to feed evil.

where's that mouse??

i cannot and do not feel ashamed that i cannot laughingly chat about whether to leave a child alone with an abusive man who has recently hurt her and is passed out on the sofa and will probably be unwakeable (to which we have to assume he could be drunk or something) and can't be trusted to even take said 5 yr old to the toilet.

i won't and never will pretend that kind of thing is ok. it made me feel sick. i was honest, yes i would report her to SS if i knew her and she told me of this kind of thing in real life. i stand by that. children's safety comes first. i will not laugh and joke and normalise child abuse.

you can play us to be a bunch of bitches or victim blaming but i repeat i CANNOT take joking about whether to leave a small child alone with an abuser. if that makes me a bitch in your eyes fine i'm a bitch.

i have supported hamster on her threads about this situation in the past (though it was under different MN names) and encouraged her to leave along with lots of mn people.

i am deeply sensitive about child abuse and neglect as are others here, some have been in abusive relationships in the past, some are troubled about whether their children have been damaged by those relationships despite them having gotten out before the children were ever in danger. you knew all that when you brought her on this thread mittz.

a light chat thread is not the place to reveal the kind of info she was revealing and expect people to cope with it. in less than 48 hours she'd made sure we knew who she was by mentioning sleeping on the window sill and she'd revealed the disturbing behaviour her kids were exhibiting and she laughingly asked us whether she should a) leave 5 yr old with unconscious abusive man or b) risk having her daughter swearing at her in the car and dealing with an argument. i can't and won't laugh about this kind of thing. that's not victim blaming.

and i feel sick again. this is triggering stuff for a lot of us which you knew it would be mittz as you know us and some of our histories and you did nothing to translate the situation or mediate despite knowing you were bringing a massively contentious upsetting situation onto the thread.

in fact you should definitely look closer to home for who has behaved insensitively and without consideration of all parties in this situation.

have a good day at college and enjoy the mole brian.

i'm going to try and stop shaking and having yukky flashbacks so that i can focus on taking care of my son and getting ready to go away. oh and clearing up cat sick and shit

feel like cancelling trip to be honest but obviously i won't.

i actually kept ds home yesterday because all of this had made me feel the need to keep him near me and give him lots of love.

saf [[]] I know exactly what you mean. Is really upsetting. I keep snuffling Mole

Go on your trip and have a fantastic time (like you need me to tell you that )xx

i'm pacing about the house shaking brian! fucking ridiculous. not the MN experience i need. life is challenging enough without online madness.

hugs back - know you get triggered by stuff like this too

I have no idea where to start in response to any of the above, so I won't. I will say that if finger pointing, accusing others, and shit throwing is going to be the 'norm' of these threads from here on in, then I'm out.

Bubs - hope college is good. xx

Satan - It's shit that you feel like that. xx

Brian - happy Mole feeding

Nemo is still on his playmat. More alert than of late. The snow is thick and still falling here.

Nurse arrives soon so I'm hoping that he perks up even more.

DH has been out wood cutting and doing general man things!

Do you like my ChristMouse name? All thanks to TC xx

Oh, and BTW, Morning, ti me, ChristMouseface

morning mouseface

i just typed a message but mole deleted it.

miitz - totally changing the subject, thank you for the post this morning, the card is beautiful, am hoping it will inspire me to sew

its chucking down with snow here.

Morning all.

Sorry if you feel that way Mittz, I hope you and hammy are ok but you must understand why her posting made us so uncomfortable.

DS is off school again, we all overslept. Need to tackle this shit tip and sort out something for dinner.

you're probably totally knackered bitter from looking after dc in the day and working in the evenings, i don't know how you do it

But I've been doing that for years, I don't know why am so tired all of a sudden.

Check out my festive name change btw