Turnout only around 52%

[Houseplanter]

As far as I can tell? Goodness that's low. Almost half the population who is eligible haven't made their choice.

But no one should have to get the ID. It was introduced cynically.

They could get a postal vote then. No ID needed.

My Aussie sil is totally shocked by the turn-out. Voting is compulsory over there and she can't understand why it isn't here.

Which, given that it was postal votes where the fraud was found not in person votes, just shows what a self serving decision it was to make this change

Some poeple in Scotland didn't get their postal votes before they went on holiday

But people should not have to go around a cynical barrier to voting.

We had a functional system and the Conservatives cynically made it harder.

You do not want to accept the reality of how humans behave - but the truth is that some people decide to vote quite late in the campaign - the ID requirement is a barrier to that.

If you want higher turnout, put the vote back to the traditional British system.

No. Spoil your ballot paper if you must, but at least turn up to show that you are not lazy committed.

People have needed ID for the last local elections so had time to get something in place before now.

And if Conservatives were using it as a ploy to get more votes, it obviously worked well!

You can lobby Labour to do that now they're in government.

Because that is our electoral system, as in many other democracies.

Compulsory voting is performative, not meaningful.

They have already made noises about reviewing it.

I didn't vote
Went to and then couldn't find my driving license which is my only ID. I do live in an area that's been labour since 2000 so I really wasn't concerned my vote would make any difference at all
In fact I would have bet my wages on it staying Labour

Really?

Don’t be so stupid. No one ever says this bull shit to men.

People move house. New people turn 18. People get married or divorced and need a name change.

Plus look at the differential turnout between local and national elections.

What is your justification for making it harder to vote? I understand why the Conservatives did it, but why do you support it?

I can't see what you'd get out of compulsory voting. People would just tick any box to be done with it.

But they still win. And a tiny minority will govern. And a huge majority will moan.

This. I will always vote for this reason.

This is exactly what does happen. It does not increase engagement.

Those who do not want to vote are best left not to vote, rather than force them to make a random selection.

What needs to happen is to make it worth voting for more people.

But how could you look at what the the candidates and parties were saying, and not be able to discriminate between them at all? I appreciate that no candidate or party is perfect, but life is complicated - why would you disenfranchise yourself?

Stride won by 61. Holden won by 20. How many were turned away in those constituencies? Plus importantly we have no numbers on those who didn't even attempt to vote because they knew they had no ID.

And you say this after last nights result? Wow!

They already said - they did not want to vote for any of the choices on offer.

People approach things differently.

Read about the Chartists. Educate yourself on Suffrage.

@bergamotorange many more just don’t bother to vote than the ones who don’t have ID.